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She ripped one much harder than Putin ever could. You guys have no idea.
Palin could let out a fart as a response to a question on the podium and she'd exceed expectations.
She ripped one much harder than Putin ever could. You guys have no idea.
Not just during the actual debate, even when he shook hands with Obama it was almost like he didn't want to look him in the eyes.
Seriously (and sadly), Palin will exceed expectations just by showing up to the debate Thursday.
Give voters some credit. She'll do about as well as she did with Gibson and Couric. Biden needs to be real careful to be gracious, kind and accomodating. Shiv her with a smile on his face.
LMAO WHAT????????????????????????????
Yeah I pointed this out in the other thread. Right now her expectations are about as low as they can go and I'm sure she'll exceed them unless she has more Miss SC moments.
Horse !!!
Considering she's had nothing but these so far, the probability of another looks to be pretty high.
Yeah, didn't you know. National security and foreign policy were supposed to be McCain's weaknesses and Obama's strengths. With all of Obama's twenty-six years of proclaimed national security experience and the fact that he made his own service a major theme of his campaign, this was a MUST win for Obama and one that frankly, everyone thought he would run away with. After all he's constantly harping on his experience as the factor that separates him from McCain. The fact that it was generally seen as a tie has to be devastating to Obama's presidential hopes.
Also, can you imagine how the Obama camp must be panicking now that the debates will likely focus on domestic issues and economic policy? They play right into McCain's acknowledged areas of expertise.
I've seen no focus group/poll where McCain won the independents. The CNN poll internals show more Dems so that accounts for the wide margin but even when you weight that back it still shows Obama winning comfortably. , even the FOX focus group swung Obama's way!
I don't care who people think won, but Its obvious who the independents think won.
Link?
What is it with you guys?
You stupid , the Iranians consider it legal to execute 9 year old girls...I want you to tell me that's rational.
I'll give the edge to Obama. McCain is obviously more experienced than Obama in foreign policy. But he did nothing to make me think he would be better at it as president. Obama held his own against him. Clearly Obama was better on economic issues.
That's the only bit of feedback I really paid attention to last night. Two different types of networks and two different groups of citizens. Both groups were split down the middle in terms of who they voted for last time. Each network had a chance to be biased their way if they really wanted. But Obama still won both by good margins.
McCain needed to throw a punch and he didn't do it. Obama didn't stand for cheap attacks and defended himself well.
McCain won, LDO.
Undecided voters -- "Understands Your Needs and Problems":
Before the Debate, Obama:
Yes - 58%
No - 40%
After the Debate, Obama:
Yes - 79%
No - 21%
Before the Debate, McCain:
Yes - 36%
No - 64%
After the Debate, McCain:
Yes - 41%
No - 58%
PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCE AMONG DEBATE WATCHERS
(Among uncommitted voters who watched debate)
Pre-debate, Obama: 36%
Pre-debate, McCain: 34%
Post-debate, Obama: 41%
Post-debate, McCain: 29%
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/2008Debate1.pdf
If he's old and stupid, then I guess he did look presidential, haha
This dude wasn't elected President and he isn't popular.
I see...and what do you think their idea of a mutually beneficial relationship is?Some out there believe the Supreme Leader wants someone else to be president, but himself is hesitant to make any rash decision because of the existing rift between the political elite of Iran.
The Supreme Leader would never talk to us personally, it's heresy, but it would not be far fetched to open negotiations with his channels for a pragmatic mutually beneficial relationship with our two countries...something that will never happen if we set all those gay ass preconditions with a neocon mindset.
Are we going to war with Iran over their domestic practices? Are we going to invade North Korea over the way they treat their population? If you feel that strongly about it, go down to your local recruiting office. It's pretty easy to take a "strong moral stand" on Spurstalk.com. But you're just all talk and no action.
Are the Iranians going to attack Israel with nukes? Don't change the subject to compensate for the fact that you are on the business end of a losing argument.
So I'll take that as "I have my head in the sand."
Anyways, I'm not so sure I want to be lectured on "rationality" by a guy who calls Sarah Palin the Elvis Presley of politics and the most popular and charismatic politician in the country.
Obama looked cool
Obama didn't know what the he was talking about.It was close, but this was McCain's wheelhouse and Obama stood toe to toe with him...and didn't give an inch.
You know normally I would think there aren't enough stupid people in the United States for that to be true...but I am starting to see the possibilities.This election is heading towards an Obama landslide.
DD
The spectrum of possibility in this election is close McCain win to Obama landslide. If McCain wins, it's by the skin of his teeth. That's still possible, since he's come back from the dead before in an election. But Barack has room to grow his lead.
And why don't you go to Iran and be gay, christian or a "dissenter"...or better yet female.
C'mon dude., show me they're just the other side of the same coin.
Prove it.
Go to North Korea...they're no different than we are. I am sure they will welcome you with open arms.
Go for it...
You just get their side of things don't you?
You truly understand them don't you?
It makes you smart.
Depends on who comes to power....if a legitimate zealot gets in there with he power, they'll do it in a split second. They'll fabricate a reason to do it if they have to do so.Are the Iranians going to attack Israel with nukes?
I'm not on the losing end of any argument...Don't change the subject to compensate for the fact that you are on the business end of a losing argument.
You just don't give a about anyone but yourself. You're the one with his head stuck in the sand, you're the one turning a blind eye...and you're the one that thinks a theocratic state society with major unemployment and poverty, inspite of being one of the most minerally wealthy countries on the planet, is going to all of a sudden turn into Bohemia.
Are you willing to die to liberate North Korea? Are you willing to die to liberate Iran? If not, then shut the up. I'm not willing to die to liberate either country. That's the issue. Otherwise, blathering about their human rights abuses when we operate Gitmo is hollow and empty. Of course, insert the whottt retort here about how I'm playing the moral equivalency game. North Korea and Iran have far worse human rights records, but the are we to criticize other countries after the past 8 years? We've lost our moral standing in the world. Nobody listens to us.
They already have two "zealots" running the country, and they're pragmatic enough to realize that attack Israel is a losing proposition. Israel's enemy is the Arab birth rate and suicide bombers with TNT, not nukes.Depends on who comes to power....if a legitimate zealot gets in there with he power, they'll do it in a split second. They'll fabricate a reason to do it.
I'm not on the losing end of any argument...
You just don't give a about anyone but yourself.
You're the one with his head stuck in the sand,
you're the one turning a blind eye...
and you're the one that thinks a theocratic state society with major unemployment and poverty, inspite of being one of the most minerally wealthy countries on the planet, is going to all of a sudden turn into Bohemia.
When losing, go with the strawman
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