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Don't blame the guy. He just loves the "in and out" of his love life...
I just want to apologize in advance, whottt. I didn't realize your anal fissures prevent you from joining the infantry or performing a combat role.
Don't blame the guy. He just loves the "in and out" of his love life...
And last I checked...no one is forcing you too.
That's the issue.
Otherwise, blathering about their human rights abuses when we operate Gitmo is hollow and empty. Of course, insert the whottt retort here about how I'm playing the moral equivalency game. North Korea and Iran have far worse human rights records, but the are we to criticize other countries after the past 8 years? We've lost our moral standing in the world. Nobody listens to us.and you think an immediate pull out of Iraq is going to imrpove that
They're pragmatic enough to realize it with W in power.They already have two "zealots" running the country, and they're pragmatic enough to realize that attack Israel is a losing proposition.
I think it depends entirely on who is leading our country.
Once we get an idiot who considers everyone different sides of the same coint they will rape that mindset. To their advantage.
And anyone that thinks otherwise, that these are just friendly people if only we give them the chance...is an idiot.
No...Israel's enemy is Europe, the Mid-East and American Liberals.Israel's enemy is the Arab birth rate and suicide bombers with TNT, not nukes.
I don't need a strawman with you...When losing, go with the strawman
So you are one of those who denies the holocaust?
No...but you are one of those that's idiot who can't read or interprtet simple statments.
I said shocked...
if you think these guys would be shocked by the holocaust. Impressed and envious? Yes. Shocked? No.
English isn't his first language dip .No...but you are one of those that's idiot who can't read or interprtet simple statments.
I said shocked...
hypocriteafarian...just don't whine about being on ignore. You failed to justify anything you post as read worthy. You're nothing but ignorance with a keyboard.
you rang?
What you said was false, I'm persian and have been to Iran i don't however support Ahmedinijad.
My Aunt's neighbors are jews and they are good friends and integrated into the society.
You'd be surprised to find how many jews themselves protest Israel's occupation.
They are just empty threats trust me, Iran would never allow something like this.
Don't confuse whottt with facts. He'll just put you on ignore for being boring.
Yahoo News:
John McCain
Substance: His arguments were hard to follow at the beginning, but he found his voice as the debate progressed, although he never seemed fully in control of his message. He had plenty to say about the economy, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Russia, but often bogged down his own answers when trying to unfurl quips and soundbites. Stuck with bumper sticker slogans on the economy, and while he got a bit more detailed on foreign policy, he stayed at his usual level of abstraction. If he truly knows more about the world than Obama, he didn't show it in this debate.
Grade: B-
Style: Cluttered, jumpy, and often muddled. Frequent coughing early on helped neither his arguments nor his image. Jokes about being deaf and anecdotes about Normandy and George Shultz seemed ill-advised - even his pen was old. His presentation was further hindered by his wandering discussion of the differing heights of North and South Koreans and his angry assertion about how well he knows Henry Kissinger. Fell into the classic politician's trap of inserting familiar stump speech applause lines into debate responses - which only works if done with enthusiasm and clarity (and if received by applause - a big No-No in Lehrer's auditorium, which the audience obeyed seriously and silently). Keenly aware of the grand, grave occasion, McCain wavered between respectful and domineering, and ended up awkward and edgy.
Grade: C-
Offense: Emphasized his bread and butter issues of taxes and spending, and hit Obama on his failure to visit Iraq and his expressed willingness to meet with dictators. But while mocking his opponent on a few occasions, which reflected his acute disrespect for Obama, he did so in an insufficiently sharp and detailed manner - and unevenly worked elements of his rival's record into his attacks. Still he was utterly confident about his own experience, knowledge, and policies, even when tripped by his own tongue and distracted by the strains of debate practice. The main problem: Obama's obvious preparation and sharp answers contradicted McCain's frequent claims that the Democrat was uninformed and "didn't understand" key issues.
Grade: C+
Defense: He managed to ignore most of Obama's jibes, but was eventually baited into giving an extended answer about his policy differences with President Bush, after his opponent repeatedly mentioned McCain's regular support of Bush's budgets. Was visibly riled when clashing with Obama over a variety of issues, including Iraq, sanctions, and spending. He also chose to boast about Sarah Palin (although not by name) as his maverick partner, who, after her shaky week, may no longer be his ace in the hole.
Grade: B-
Overall: McCain was McCain - evocative, intense, and at times emotional, but also vague, elliptical, and atonal. Failed to deliver his "country first versus Obama first" message cleanly, even when offered several opportunities. Surprisingly, did not talk much about "change," virtually ceding the dominant issue of the race.
Overall grade: B-
(Read Mark Halperin's take on Barack Obama's performance)
Barack Obama
Substance: Quite manifestly immersed in the past, present, and future details of policy, and eager to express his views, which have been expanded, honed, and solidified during the last 18 months of hard campaigning. Still, he did avoid the nitty-gritty details of policy positions in favor of broad principles and references to working Americans, thereby not presenting the kind of specifics that some voters are waiting to hear from him.
Grade: B+
Style: Polished, confident, focused. Fully prepared, and able to convey a real depth of knowledge on nearly every issue. He was unhurried, and rarely lost his train of thought even when the debate wended and winded - and uttered far fewer of his trademark, distracting, "ums." At times, however, Obama revealed the level of his preparation by faltering over a rehearsed answer. He seemed to deliberately focus on the moderator and the home audience, with McCain as an afterthought - except when on the attack. Chose to avoid humor, for the most part, in favor of a stern demeanor, and in the process, came off as cool as a cu ber.
Grade: A
Offense: Linking McCain to Bush in his very first answer, he kept it up as his primary line of attack. Forcefully hit McCain for his early support of the Iraq War. Though he never drew blood, he did keep McCain a bit off balance, often with clever references to McCain's recent statements.
Grade: B
Defense: Had a reasonable answer for every charge that came his way - with little anger, bluster, or anxiety. Often interrupting McCain attacks with swift explanations and comebacks, he managed to spin accusations of being liberal as evidence of his relentless opposition to George Bush (in replies that were clearly planned). Offered a rather clumsy alternative to McCain's well-known, moving story of wearing the bracelet of a soldier lost in Iraq (a gift from the soldier's mother), with a story about a bracelet of his own. Fearless, without condescension, he attempted the gracious move of agreeing with or complimenting a McCain position, occasionally to his own detriment.
Grade: A-
Overall: Went for a solid, consistent performance to introduce himself to the country. He did not seem nervous, tentative, or intimidated by the event, and avoided mistakes from his weak debate performances during nomination season (a professorial tone and long winded answers). Standing comfortably on the stage with his rival, he showed he belonged - evocative of Reagan, circa 1980. He was so confident by the end that he reminded his biggest audience yet that his father was from Kenya. Two more performances like that and he will be very tough to beat on Election Day.
Overall grade: A-
Its official, Yahoo is my god
Whottt, you're cool in person but Sarah Palin has really changed you, it's like, scary.
I have no choice but to bump your quote about how Blacks don't like Obama anymore and probably won't vote for him, and if McCain wins and dies, I have no choice but to bump your quote about how Palin will scare foreign leaders into deference, if only because she has popped out four kids and had nice T's.
Uh...no I'm not wrong. Girls can be executed from the age of 9 and boys from the age of 15 by in Iran.
No I wouldn't...there are anti-Israel Jewish groups in the United States.My Aunt's neighbors are jews and they are good friends and integrated into the society.
You'd be surprised to find how many jews themselves protest Israel's occupation.
The ability of the Jews to self-hate puts that of the Liberal White Male to shame.
Yeah..because that govt is so enlightened...They are just empty threats trust me, Iran would never allow something like this.
I like Palin a great deal...but that's not what has caused my change at ude...my change in at ude is entirely due to the intolerant and dishonest at udes of the left.
I don't like the President, Congress, Media, Internet, Global Multi National Corp leftist alignment, and I'm amazed that so many educated people don't see it for what it is.
When I was a young man we of the liberal mindset rebelled against the establishment...not served as it's zombie marching army.
It was a joke...but I actually think do think people are overestimating the AA vote.I have no choice but to bump your quote about how Blacks don't like Obama anymore and probably won't vote for him,
and if McCain wins and dies, I have no choice but to bump your quote about how Palin will scare foreign leaders into deference, if only because she has popped out four kids and had nice T's.
You're the focused on her s and kids...not I. I haven't even seen her s.
i can't even begin to understand your ignorance when you say something like jews hating themselves.
All jews aren't israeli, but all the people of israel are jews.
Its like saying that germans hating nazis hate germans.
However, i don't want to go off topic and start discussing what is so
blatantly wrong in the occupation of palestine.
To believe that a 9yr old could be executed is beyond comical to me. I'm
guessing that fox news told you that? Of course don't believe a person that
has actually been to the country before. IRAN IS A THEOCRACY, ITS RUN ON
THE TEACHINGS OF THE QURAN. If a 9 yr old can be executed there, trust
me they can be executed in Saudi A. or w.e. Your entranced into the media's
perception that Iran is working for one goal and one goal only, to destroy
israel. What you don't realize is that most arab nations don't care about the
palestenians and deny them citizenship. Much so like Iran, but they at least
have the decency of condemning israel and warning it. Iran isn't stupid
enough to drop a nuke, and get attacked by the Zionists running our
government, that clearly love israel more.
To help someone of your intellect understand this better. Would you kick a
guy with a rifle in the balls?
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Maybe they don't see it like you. Have you ever thought about what the reaction would be to 8 years of a republican administration almost always having control of congress and absolutely running this country into the ground might be?
The country is fed up. They were fed up in 2006 and they're still fed up today. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, and most of the country welcomes that at this moment.
The Right should have thought of the consequences before they ed it up the way they did. Left does not equal Evil, no matter how much you may believe that. However, it has become painfully - or is that Palinfully? - clear that the right may very well equal incompetence and stupidity. I'm ready to give the left a shot.
Don't look at me...the only Republican I voted for in 2004 was W, and that was because the Democrats gave me no alternative. I prefer the parties balancing each other out. That said...I did think it was hilarious that propagandizing the war not only did not get W out of the whitehouse, but actually put more Republicans in Congress. I said it was a bad tactic at the time. Furthermore...I don't know who these outraged people are, the ones who voted Republican in 2004?
As for 2006...you and I sat here on this forum that night and at no time was I suprised by the Democrats swinging into power. It's what America has done historically in elections...oppostional parties in charge of the legislative and executive branches.
However..what you overlook is that things have gotten worse since the Democrats swept into power in Congress, and while Joe Public may be stupid enough to continue blaming the Republicans for it...I actually know how government works and realize that W is nothing more than a veto or a signature...he's not in charge of allocating funds, he's not in charge of the money and how it is spent..Congress is.
The country is fed up. They were fed up in 2006 and they're still fed up today. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, and most of the country welcomes that at this moment.
Be sure to check the approval rate of Congress...it's doing worse than W is.
Depends on which left you speak of...the one that serves America or the one that serves what's outside of America.The Right should have thought of the consequences before they ed it up the way they did. Left does not equal Evil, no matter how much you may believe that. However, it has become painfully - or is that Palinfully? - clear that the right may very well equal incompetence and stupidity. I'm ready to give the left a shot.
You guys could easily support Pro-American lefties that will serve this country like Jim Webb or even the Clintons...yet you refuse to give those candidates any sort of chance, and instead give the opportunities to those that don't seem to realize that their job is to run this country, not run it for other countries. You give those chances to individuals enamored with global en ies a hundred times more ineffective and corrupt than the US Govt is on it's worst day.
In any case...support who you like, just realize that there is nothing counter culture about the side you are aligned on...you are on the side of the wealthiest, the biggest, the most powerful, you are on the side of the establishment, THE BIG GLOBAL ESTABLISHMENT. You are not the underdog...you are Goliath.
Hahaahahahahaha. This article (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4837692.ece) says McCain may have LOST just by showing up.
IMO, McCain was a) the most lucid he's been in in over a year, but that's not saying much and b) playing from behind. The only way he could "win" would be to blow Obama out of the water, but that didn't happen. Instead, he just kept repeating over an over how Obama "didn't have the experience" and "doesn't get it" but Obama blew him off the stage by showing he DOES get it and DOES have the experience.
The two stupidest moments:
1. The pissing match they got into about 18 million when there's a 700 billion offer on the table and 70 billion being spent in Iraq a month.
2. The pissing match they got into over what Kissinger actually said. By the way, Obama was right.
A single persons experience does not cons ute facts.......................jackass.
Again, don't try and rationalize with whottt, especially using things like facts. He's always right and his opinion is the most informed and well thought out opinion in the history of time. Next time you disagree with him, don't. He's always right and nothing on earth could prove him wrong, especially facts.
What a gem this one is. So if I said, "I went to the grocery store the other day and I fell and broke my ankle." That's not a fact? Maybe you and whottt have some evidence Iran executes 9 year old girls???? If so please post it.
Dems typically get about 90% of the black vote in a prez election. Obama will get about 95% of that. And there will be record-high turnout among AA's.It was a joke...but I actually think do think people are overestimating the AA vote.
Take a look at what you were talking about you stupid :
What a gem this one is. So if I said, "I went to the grocery store the other day and I fell and broke my ankle." That's not a fact? Maybe you and whottt have some evidence Iran executes 9 year old girls???? If so please post it.
Since I'm financially doing better then I was a year or two ago, then all this economy talk is balderdash then...................you know, because me saying it makes it true.
you're an idiot.
haha man you're gettin upset for no reason. Calm down there big guy
"What you said was false, I'm persian and have been to Iran i don't however support Ahmedinijad. "
whottt claimed they execute 9 year old girls in Iran. This was a response to that. I told this person not to confuse whottt with facts. IF you have evidence they actually execute 9 year old girls, please post it.
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