***OFFICIAL EliteXC: "Heat" Thread***

**dbreiden83080** · 10-13-2008

"People who follow MMA say that one of the problems is that ole Kimbo and female star Gina Carano are the only fighters with star appeal"

This is why i can't take this nonsense seriously. That is about the dumbest i have ever read right there.

**BlackSwordsMan** · 10-13-2008

If he replaced mma and put elite xc I would agree with him

**Evan** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

"People who follow MMA say that one of the problems is that ole Kimbo and female star Gina Carano are the only fighters with star appeal"

This is why i can't take this nonsense seriously. That is about the dumbest i have ever read right there.

which goes back to one of my previous comments on how the mass media is picking up on this and haven't a clue what the difference is between MMA, UFC and EXC.

And I agree BlackSwordsMan

**dbreiden83080** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by Evan

which goes back to one of my previous comments on how the mass media is picking up on this and haven't a clue what the difference is between MMA, UFC and EXC.

And I agree BlackSwordsMan

I understand Evan, really i do. But like i said we have a typical over-reaction here to this story and what will sell is trying to lump MMA into this as a whole. Of course they know what the difference is. But trashing EXC is not y enough, trashing MMA and killing the sport will get more attention. In this era of dying newspapers, internet bloggers, up the ass, millions of people with opinions vying for attention in the market, talking is the only thing that sells anymore. I am not worried about this at all. In 5 weeks when Brock is fighting Randy, that will be the biggest thing going on in the MMA world. This is HOT right now, it won't last.

**Evan** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

I understand Evan, really i do. But like i said we have a typical over-reaction here to this story and what will sell is trying to lump MMA into this as a whole. Of course they know what the difference is. But trashing EXC is not y enough, trashing MMA and killing the sport will get more attention. In this era of dying newspapers, internet bloggers, up the ass, millions of people with opinions vying for attention in the market, talking is the only thing that sells anymore. I am not worried about this at all. In 5 weeks when Brock is fighting Randy, that will be the biggest thing going on in the MMA world. This is HOT right now, it won't last.

I'm not sure whatsoever what the lasting impact will be although I lean to you being right.

To me that’s not the point so much, for me that it happened at all is what infuriates me. MMA was doing just fine until boxing got involved. As a once-upon-a-time massive boxing fan its pretty sad to see this. That’s why it bothers me more than most.

**dbreiden83080** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by Evan

I'm not sure whatsoever what the lasting impact will be although I lean to you being right.

To me that’s not the point so much, for me that it happened at all is what infuriates me. MMA was doing just fine until boxing got involved. As a once-upon-a-time massive boxing fan its pretty sad to see this. That’s why it bothers me more than most.

I understand but sports survive scandals, they have had too at one time or another. I think looking back on this 10 years from now, EXC will certainly be gone and it will be just a side-show of a dark chapter in MMA history. Perpetuated by clowns that didn't get what MMA is all about

**Evan** · 10-13-2008

You know who may be effed more than anyone by this is o. I wonder if CBS is now scared to fund any high priced free agent after this mess.

**dbreiden83080** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by Evan

You know who may be effed more than anyone by this is o. I wonder if CBS is now scared to fund any high priced free agent after this mess.

Yeah and o desperately needs a big fight and win against someone in the next year if he wants to stay on the radar. I think if he gets that surgery and comes back a little healthier, i'd love to see him whip Frank Shamrock's ass. I want to see him back in the UFC but i actually think Dana is so spiteful with him, he won't ever let him back in.

**ATRAIN** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

"People who follow MMA say that one of the problems is that ole Kimbo and female star Gina Carano are the only fighters with star appeal"

This is why i can't take this nonsense seriously. That is about the dumbest i have ever read right there.

LOL thing about those 2 is that Gina can actually fight even though I know EXC is prob going to try and keep her pretty face away from harm.

**ATRAIN** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

Yeah and o desperately needs a big fight and win against someone in the next year if he wants to stay on the radar. I think if he gets that surgery and comes back a little healthier, i'd love to see him whip Frank Shamrock's ass. I want to see him back in the UFC but i actually think Dana is so spiteful with him, he won't ever let him back in.

I would love that as well, I hate that prick.

**Evan** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

Yeah and o desperately needs a big fight and win against someone in the next year if he wants to stay on the radar. I think if he gets that surgery and comes back a little healthier, i'd love to see him whip Frank Shamrock's ass. I want to see him back in the UFC but i actually think Dana is so spiteful with him, he won't ever let him back in.

I wouldn't worry about that…Lorenzo has so much more to do with day to day ops now that ever before. Randy back is all about Loranzo, not Dana. All of those little youtube video blogs out to show a much better side of Dana? Lorenzo's idea.

In o's book he praises Lorenzo so he has always left open a door and rumor has Lorenzo offerring o one last shot at a contract a few days before his last fight.

So IMO…I feel strongly o will be back one day….

Frank?Such a wild card. I think they still have a lawsuit going actually.

**ATRAIN** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by Evan

I wouldn't worry about that…Lorenzo has so much more to do with day to day ops now that ever before. Randy back is all about Loranzo, not Dana. All of those little youtube video blogs out to show a much better side of Dana? Lorenzo's idea.

In o's book he praises Lorenzo so he has always left open a door and rumor has Lorenzo offerring o one last shot at a contract a few days before his last fight.

So IMO…I feel strongly o will be back one day….

Frank?Such a wild card. I think they still have a lawsuit going actually.

Really why? Also can Frank fight with Braces on?

**Evan** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by ATRAIN

Really why? Also can Frank fight with Braces on?

Something to do with him owning his fight footage with the previous UFC owners.

No state will let him fight with braces. I'm sure those will be gone soon.

**dallaskd** · 10-13-2008

Originally Posted by Evan

which goes back to one of my previous comments on how the mass media is picking up on this and haven't a clue what the difference is between MMA, UFC and EXC.

And I agree BlackSwordsMan

I honestly don't give two s what people think about our sport.

**Evan** · 10-16-2008

Ken wanted more money

http://www.fightlinker.com/?p=3493

The bad news never stops....

As stated in the comments section by a poster…this thing is now at epic fail levels only seen by K-1 and then some...

**ATRAIN** · 10-16-2008

Originally Posted by Evan

Ken wanted more money

http://www.fightlinker.com/?p=3493

The bad news never stops....

As stated in the comments section by a poster…this thing is now at epic fail levels only seen by K-1 and then some...

It never ends!!!

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