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    Ron Paul was right
    He usually is.

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    I agree, which is I why argued vigorously against the trade. The archives will back me up on that.

    What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
    everything. and don't forget we still need to bomb spain.

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    It's official.

    Luis Scola spoke in favour of the bailout.

    Yeap...Scola sure taught me a lesson when he got the Rockets out of the first round and and lead Argentina to a Gold Medal. I got showed

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    everything. and don't forget we still need to bomb spain.

    Spain. Tapas-eating mother ers. McCain will show them what's what.

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    That is why our two party system of Democracy doesn't work. Especially when the both parties are backed with Special Interest group money. Guys like Ron Paul have no chance to ever make a difference. Ross Perot sorta had a chance but only because he finanaced his own campaign. He wansn't beholden to any special interest groups. As long as their is big corporate money behind the campaigns of the Democrats and Republicans, who becomes President doesn't matter. Policy is determined by whomever has the money.

    As they say in business

    He who has the money makes the rules.

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    That is why our two party system of Democracy doesn't work. Especially when the both parties are backed with Special Interest group money. Guys like Ron Paul have no chance to ever make a difference. Ross Perot sorta had a chance but only because he finanaced his own campaign. He wansn't beholden to any special interest groups. As long as their is big corporate money behind the campaigns of the Democrats and Republicans, who becomes President doesn't matter. Policy is determined by whomever has the money.

    As they say in business

    He who has the money makes the rules.
    Preaching to the choir

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    So, you don't have anything resembling a plan -- but you'll about anyone else's.

    Fair enough.
    I haven't ed about your plan...I haven't even seen it yet.

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    Hey the dems have the majority...so they couldn't even get their own party in line.
    Therein lies the rub. Dems could do this by themselves if they want, but they want the political cover of having the Republicans all in on this plan as well.

    Chicken s.

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    I haven't ed about your plan...I haven't even seen it yet.
    I have none and have said so; you are too busy ing to understand. You're the expert -- let's hear yours.

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    Look, I can sign on to not doing the bailout if you think no matter what either way we're headed to a big storm. But to sit here and say that it won't be bad is contrary to everything I've read.

    They're going to pass some form of bailout...I am almost certain of it.

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    I have none and have said so; you are too busy ing to understand. You're the expert -- let's hear yours.
    Let things crash...the debt isn't going anywhere and the money has nowhere else to go.

    Plus, eveything will get cheaper.

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    Spain. Tapas-eating mother ers. McCain will show them what's what.

    I'd much rather bomb Dallas than Spain...if I could figure out a way to only bomb the bags.

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    Look, I can sign on to not doing the bailout if you think no matter what either way we're headed to a big storm. But to sit here and say that it won't be bad is contrary to everything I've read.
    As I mentioned on the poll about the bailout...

    (IMO)

    Whether or not this bailout happens, we are going to have at least a recession. And anyone who says it won't suck is kidding themselves. It's going to suck for everyone.

    But I think this bailout, as the legislation stands, would be pouring fuel on the fire. Meaning, we go from dealing with say a 1-2 year recession (more likely 2 years) to dealing with a great depression and 8-10 years of pain in the ass inflation.

    So, my two cents:

    No bailout, short term recession. Recessions are necessary evils of a free market economy. We can't keep plugging holes in the dike when the dam's going to burst anyway.

    Bailout, the next decade is going to be a for us all. We're seeing the tip of the iceberg right now with residential mortgages. Whenever this gets settled, we're going to be dealing with commercial property lending failures that will make the residential mortgage failures pennies in the bucket.

    So, to me this bill is a referendum on whether we want to go through the short term pain of a recession or bail out Wall Street, still get ed in the ass, go through a great depression, all while the rich folk on Wall Street continue to live their lives of splendor and excess on the backs of all of us and our children and grand children thanks to the bailout.

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    I'd much rather bomb Dallas than Spain...if I could figure out a way to only bomb the bags.
    Or at least give me time to get the out of here (Dallas)

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    And finally, it says a lot about the situation that people were threatening members of the House over any potential future leadership positions if they didn't vote yes today. And you had Paulson screaming that we're all screwed \if this doesn't go through.

    Nothing like a little fear and intimidation to ramrod through ty legislation, eh?

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    I'd much rather bomb Dallas than Spain...if I could figure out a way to only bomb the bags.
    Target Uptown and Addison on a Friday night. There will be some collateral damage, but I'd only estimate it at 15% of total casualties.

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    Most generations have a time when they have to wake up from the comfortable life and do work son. This is necessary to ensure they can keep the country going another generation. This is probably ours.

    Look outside right now. Most people have they can't afford. Not "afford" but actually afford. 2005 was the first time since the great depression the average person spent more than they made? Time for people to wise back up.

    Most people will get owned the next couple years. A few will become millionaires over the next couple years.

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    IF you guys think that foreign investors are going to avoid us...where exactly are they going to go?

    That is a pure unadulerated scare tactic.

    This is the bargain market. The debt is not going anywhere. I wish it would.


    Panic is usually the wrong course of action.

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    This thing is a crisis. We are all screwed. Everyone needs to vote for this to save the world. That's why we're taking off until Thursday [/Pelosi].

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    Before the vote- McCain was taking credit for brokering the deal with House Republicans!

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    I'd much rather bomb Dallas than Spain...if I could figure out a way to only bomb the bags.
    Aerial sticky bombs with condensed power.

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    Target Uptown and Addison on a Friday night. There will be some collateral damage, but I'd only estimate it at 15% of total casualties.
    But there's a ton of easy ass in Addison Can't we make an exception?

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    Target Uptown and Addison on a Friday night. There will be some collateral damage, but I'd only estimate it at 15% of total casualties.
    Tag Frisco as well.

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    Before the vote- McCain was taking credit for brokering the deal with House Republicans!
    And Obama was taking credit for bringing Republicans and Democrats together to form a compromise

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    Before the vote- McCain was taking credit for brokering the deal with House Republicans!
    Is he planning on working through Rosh Hashana? Will he leave his campaign HQ this time and drive across the river?

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