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He said it refers to the executive branch of the government and that Cheney misinterprets it to his VP role in the Senate...
If you really want to discuss it -- I'll be happy to talk -- you'll have to give me a clue about what you think he got wrong.
He said it refers to the executive branch of the government and that Cheney misinterprets it to his VP role in the Senate...
That is what you call a congressional self asskicking.
That's what happens when you're clueless on issues and have to cram for a debate. The bar for Palin was set so low she could have added 2+2 in the debate and be seen as a success
Biden's answers had no substance either...he just covered it up much better. And he crammed for this debate too. And he still got a ton of wrong, as much if not more than she did...
She's never sat in a Senate session in her life...that's what he's done for his entire life, that she doesn't know anyones voting record is understandable, that Biden doesn't know McCain's or Obama's...isn't.
"Self-asskicking", for the uninformed, is what whottt does on a normal basis ... talking about topics he has zero clue about, and exposing his re ation for everyone to see.
No wonder you think Palin won the debate. Her clueless rambling, winking, skirting questions she doesn't understand, changing the topic aimlessly, criticizing Obama for voting on issues where McCain voted the same way .... that must remind you of yourself more than anything else.
Palin : political/social/economic/global issues :: whottt : anything whottt posts about
Palin = whottt = dumbasses
I'm not sure that's what he said at all. From the transcript of the debate:
As far as I can tell, the first paragraph and the first 2 sentences of the second paragraph are cons utionally correct.
I understand that you're seizing upon this statement: "The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Cons ution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that." But I suppose I'm more concerned that he get the controlling principles correct than that he might have misspoken in citing his source.
And, ultimately, this unitary executive power grab nonsense is a deciding issue for me. I think the Bush Administration's overt efforts to ac ulate power in the executive both through expansion of the powers of the offices of President and Vice President and through the dimunition of legislative acts before 2006 are about as unpatriotic as anything I can imagine short of pure treason. Intentional definance of the cons ution by an elected official is unconscionable in my mind and offering weak arguments to support those efforts doesn't pardon the wrongdoing.
To hear Palin say that she favors the continuation, if not the expansion, of that effort is something that will steer the direction of my moderate vote.
Prints up Warlor's post..wipes ass with it. Put the stupid talking ignorant Warlord on ignore.
Warlord...all mouth, no substance.
His posts are barely asswipe worthy.
Wrong quote:
http://minx.cc/?post=274758
"Vice President Cheney has probably been the most dangerous Vice President we've had in American history. He has the idea...he doesn't realize that Article I of the Cons ution defines the role of the Vice President of the United States. That's the executive. He works in the executive branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.
What an asshat...if that's the case Cheney is the Legislature
And the legislature is the executive branch of the government
Go ahead...insert the excuse for the expert on cons utional law here.
As for the rest of your argument...do you seriously believe Palin is anything like Cheney? She didn't mention anything about directly expanding powers in the legislature. She just said she was going to be more pro-active.
It's also funny that Biden calls Cheney dangerous...he said the exact same thing about Obama.
I quoted that.
I also noted that when it came to actually discussing what the cons utional powers of the Vice President are, Biden explained them correctly. You get pissed if someone takes Palin to task on a technical misstatement, but if Biden is technically wrong in a citation and then correctly explains the law, you beat him down. Really?
It's okay that Palin can't cite to landmark Supreme Court cases at all, but it's absurd for Biden to correctly spell out the cons utional powers of the Vice President if he slips and says that those are Article I powers.
I do believe that. She said last night that she agrees with Cheney's (unprecedented) views in response to a question asking directly about Cheney's beliefs about the office of the Vice President and the scope of its power:
Agreeing with Cheney that the cons ution affords flexibility in defining the powers of the Vice President makes her, in my estimation, very much like Cheney.
Yes...because that is his area of expertise.
Who gives a about Supreme Court Landmark cases? Is she going to be serving on the Supreme Court?
It's okay that Palin can't cite to landmark Supreme Court cases at all, but it's absurd for Biden to correctly spell out the cons utional powers of the Vice President if he slips and says that those are Article I powers.
I do believe that. She said last night that she agrees with Cheney's (unprecedented) views in response to a question asking directly about Cheney's beliefs about the office of the Vice President and the scope of its power:
Agreeing with Cheney that the cons ution affords flexibility in defining the powers of the Vice President makes her, in my estimation, very much like Cheney.
Big difference between Palin and Cheney FWDT...Cheney's a lawyer, Palin is not.
Cheney's smarter.
Besides FWDT, why isn't it allowable for officials to have opinions on these things, the Supreme Court is the one that ultimately decides...I know you aren't in the habit of questioning judicial integrity...so really what is the snit about?
Elitist.
and you don't like lawyers except when you do.
I want to have whottt's baby
i think you already did.
You act as though thats a bad thing. I'm sorry I want elite people in office. It takes more than a swimsuit and a flute to show me you're ready for the office of the president.
Then again, you voted for Bush. I guess we know where you stand on this.
If an Administration is willing to disregard the legislative branch, why not the judicial branch as well?
Personally, I find Cheney's view of executive power to be dangerous and uncons utional. The fact that it might be undone by the Supreme Court (if anyone can dredge up legal standing to challenge those acts) doesn't reduce the danger that unprecedented power seizures can create. The early years of the Bush Administration are evidence enough of that.
We all have our issues, and that's one of mine. Just as your concern about Obama's patriotism is one of yours. I think it's dangerous to elect an executive who believes in expanding the powers of that office beyond its understood cons utional limits (to say nothing of the disingenuous arguments for expansively reading the text in that situation while arguing against expansive readings of the text in other situations) - as I say, I think it's unpatriotic. Palin, to me, acknowledged her desire to do as Cheney has done and that, frankly, is outrageous to me.
If McCain is elected and Palin ascends to the Presidency, she's going to be nominating people to fill vacancies on that Court. I'd like to think that she would understand the work that the Court does, which is generally evidenced by knowing about landmark cases as to which most 8th or 9th graders would be conversant.
Of course, your tired old cannard about lawyers being what it is.Big difference between Palin and Cheney FWDT...Cheney's a lawyer, Palin is not.
Wow...just wow.
The ignorance in this thread is astounding.
It was a good debate and it was refreshing to see the two candidates respect and look at each other and acknowledge each other. Palin schooled McCain on how to debate.
Reagan did ok at it.
Of course, your tired old cannard about lawyers being what it is.
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