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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I don't give a crap who people associate with. , I have friends who are republicans..does that mean I have poor judgement? I've got friends who have been busted for DUI....does that mean I have poor judgement? I know women who have had an abortion...does that mean I have poor judgement?
    I didn't even give a damn about Bush's cocaine snorting. Big freakin' deal. Or McCain dumping his first wife life a bad habit. Don't care.
    But hey, to each his own. I

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    Chump being Chump again...

    He gets it from listening to multiple media sources like I do. Not just those that favor the left wing.

    I have only read to his point, (2 day old post) so I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but there is now better evidence yet that Ayers and Obama were close. Talk radio has been showing various connections between the two for months. We have heard things that can only be drawn to conclusions that they were very close. I haven't heard the specifics, but I heard today, or yesterday, Ayers sopke about his connection. No, I have no link yet.
    Wow, how very specific of you.

    Any evidence of Obama's America damning bombs yet?

    I know, you heard someone said it somewhere on the radio sometime.

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    It's sad to see what the Republican party has become. The thing I find most hilarious is Palin is the one making these comments while she herself is barely known and has been on the national stage for little over a month. Does anyone really know her? Why should anyone take her word for anything? That's the thing that kills me about her. 5 weeks in the public eye, constantly being hidden from the press, stonewalling her ethics investigation, and idiots are so willing to take her word as gospel.

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    絶対領域が大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    It's sad to see what the Republican party has become. The thing I find most hilarious is Palin is the one making these comments while she herself is barely known and has been on the national stage for little over a month. Does anyone really know her? Why should anyone take her word for anything? That's the thing that kills me about her. 5 weeks in the public eye, constantly being hidden from the press, stonewalling her ethics investigation, and idiots are so willing to take her word as gospel.
    I take her word as gospel... i.e., complete bull .

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    Wow, how very specific of you.

    Any evidence of Obama's America damning bombs yet?

    I know, you heard someone said it somewhere on the radio sometime.
    Nobody I listen to claims Obama would do anything like that. Multiple talk show hosts have pointed out the conections, and KNOWN FACTS without making stuff up, but adding opinion. Not just one. Victoia Taft, Lars Larson, Michael Medved, Neal Boortz, Sean Hannity, Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, Rusty Humphties, Mike Gallagher, and more.

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    Nobody I listen to claims Obama would do anything like that.
    Than what are you guys whining about?
    Multiple talk show hosts have pointed out the conections, and KNOWN FACTS without making stuff up
    Yes, the ones that have been recycled multiple times with zero effect.
    Not just one. Victoia Taft, Lars Larson, Michael Medved, Neal Boortz, Sean Hannity, Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, Rusty Humphties, Mike Gallagher, and more.
    You listen to all of those shows?

    You need a life.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Jochhejaam, you forgot Obama's connection with ACORN:

    Inside Obama's ACORN

    They are again, actively commiting voter registration fraud to vote multiple times for Obama.
    How many times have they been found guilty of voter fraud charges?

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    One year after the contentious 2004 election, it is clear that politically motivated law firms and organizations leveled unfounded allegations of fraud against ACORN with the goal of tarnishing the community group’s reputation and inhibiting its work. In recent months, three highly publicized legal challenges brought against ACORN staff have been dismissed or withdrawn for lack of evidence. In Ohio, a lawsuit funded by the conservative Free Enterprise Coalition and litigated by the law firm of Shumaker, Loop and Kendrick collapsed on October 28. Two Florida lawsuits, based solely on claims by convicted felon and ex-ACORN employee Mac Start and litigated by Rothstein, Rosenfeldt, Adler of Fort Lauderdale, were dismissed with prejudice. Stuart admitted to making false statements against ACORN.

    “This outcome is vindication for our dedicated staff and volunteers who worked around the clock in the 2004 election to make sure the voices of low-income Americans were heard,” said Tamecka Pierce of ACORN. “The conservative groups who leveled false charges should be held accountable – this kind of harassment is clearly designed to intimidate community groups who register people of color.”

    Further, criminal investigations responding to allegations of voter fraud recently ended in Colorado, Wisconsin, Florida, and Ohio after finding no evidence of wrongdoing by ACORN or any pervasive voter fraud. In Wisconsin, U.S. Attorney Steve Biskupic, a Republican appointed by President Bush in 2004, concluded, “We don’t see a massive conspiracy to alter the election in Milwaukee, one way or another.” In Ohio, a year-long federal, state, and local investigation ended with no federal indictments. “Our investigation is closed. No one was charged…the federal investigation is closed,” said Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Edwards in Cleveland.

    http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/1214-09.htm


    http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=8540&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=18427&tx_ttnews[backPid]=8359&cHash=eed3218d29

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    Oh the horrah!!!!

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    Cheney was eating brekfast with Mahmoud Ahmad a man who ired money to Mohamed Atta on 9/11- yet that isn't a problem

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    Republicans have no morals. You can't possibly be a Republican and have decent human values.

    You waste your time debating with them.

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    There are Republicans who served on that same board foundation with Bill Ayers.

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    There are Republicans who served on that same board foundation with Bill Ayers.
    Are they running for President?

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    Are they running for President?
    Does that equate to them "palling around with terrorists?"

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    You listen to all of those shows?

    You need a life.
    Not on a daily basis. When I listen to Talk radio, it includes one of them, sometimes two. They have all mentioned the connections with some rather idertesing assessments and facts. I was listening to Lars Larson when I started on the net today. He has a local show, then a national show following. I only listen to talk radio when I'm in the car, or on the web. I switch around to keep from being bored. I seldom listen to Rush because he's just 'over the top'. I also seldom listen to Michael Savage, but am now.

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    How many times have they been found guilty of voter fraud charges?
    Look at the links in the other tread I addressed this on. Some information is there. I am looking for the statistics of the 100+ convictions, but haven't found it yet.

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    Has this one been linked yet:



    The fact about how much Obama downplays his association with Ayres should really be a concern. He flat out lies about how well he knows the terrorist.

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    Well, no responce to the YouTube from you liberals? If you didn't watch it past the Palin scene, she only has a short few seconds at the start. It gets detailed later in. It must be true, it's from CNN, right? It's not Fox!

    How about it Ozambies... What's your take?

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    Well, no responce to the YouTube from you liberals? If you didn't watch it past the Palin scene, she only has a short few seconds at the start. It gets detailed later in. It must be true, it's from CNN, right? It's not Fox!

    How about it Ozambies... What's your take?
    what do you expect from a tractor pull crowd?

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    There's nothing new in it, and it still doesn't matter. I haven't seen a strategy that has been proven to fail so consistently stuck to so insanely for so long.

    All it proves is that McCain and Palin are completely out of ideas --and by extension you are out of ideas because you never had of your own in the first place.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Has this one been linked yet:



    The fact about how much Obama downplays his association with Ayres should really be a concern. He flat out lies about how well he knows the terrorist.
    maybe because he really has no association with Ayers. Ever thought of that? I know you people have been trying to find tangible proof of this supposed palling around between obama an ayers. Maybe the reason you haven't found any links is because there were none.

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    Has this one been linked yet:



    The fact about how much Obama downplays his association with Ayres should really be a concern. He flat out lies about how well he knows the terrorist.
    Why not downplay it? What does it mean in the overall scheme of things? I don't know one presidential candidate that came into office without questionable ties/associations. Who cares? This is just more political crap for people who are LOSING

    The Clinton machine tried it...didn't work. Why does McCain think it's going to work now? It's pathetic that these guys can't speak about ISSUES and instead have to throw against the wall and see if it sticks. I said a month ago that if McCain didn't drop the Bush 2.0 campaign and start talking issues he would be in deep . And a month later it's sad to see he and his campaign hasn't learned a damn thing. People don't want to hear about dumbass conspiracy theories. They want to hear McCain's agenda for this country the next 4 years and he hasn't delivered .

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    The major problem is that Obama is lying about how well he does know Ayres. If he was honest about what is know, it would be believeable that is where it ends at. In lying, we must wonder how much more there is to the association because cir stantial evidence points to an actual long friendship.

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    How much "must" we wonder?

    What specific danger do you think a relationship with Ayers foretells?

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    How much "must" we wonder?

    What specific danger do you think a relationship with Ayers foretells?
    Who people associate with on a regular basis shows us their charactor. Maybe it doesn't matter to you, but ethical charactor is very imporatnt to me.

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