Palin Accuses Obama of 'Palling Around With Terrorists'

[Yonivore]

Whatever helps you get through it all, Buddy.

Can't respond to the information I post, attack me. I can take it.

[boutons_]

Palin's Attack On Obama's Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About The Palins' Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist


"she repeatedly courted a secessionist group founded by someone who openly professed hatred of the American government, cursed our flag, and wanted to secede from the Union. Sarah's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of this group, which continues to venerate that founder to this day, for years."

"the group is the Alaska Independence Party, which sees as its ultimate goal seceding from the union. Todd was a member, with a brief exception, from 1995 until 2002, according to the Division of Elections in Alaska. "

"In 1994, Palin attended the group's annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News' Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group's 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an in bent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Cons ution of the United States."

"The founder of the AIP was a man named Joe Vogler."

Vogler has also said: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned ins utions."

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpoi...mas_patrio.php

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So pitbull "associated with" and apparently was sympathetic to AIP, her red-neck husband a member of AIP, when she was an adult and governor of Alaska, not when she was 8 years old.

MUCH stronger "guilt by association" with anti-American, profoundly unpatriotic AIP for pitbull than any association of HUSSEIN with anything

[Buddy Holly]

Whatever helps you get through it all, Buddy.

Yeah, googling funny pictures to post on a forum is totally what gets me through it all.

Just a tremendous and well thought out retort.

Can't respond to the information I post, attack me. I can take it.

What information? All you've done is make unfounded claim after unfounded claim and provided almost nothing substantial to back it up.

[Purple & Gold]

Palin, for instance, said on Friday that some of Obama's statements on America's foreign policy should disqualify him from being president.

"Some of his comments that he has made about the war that I think may -- in my world -- disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief," Palin told FOX News. "Some of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there, supposedly just air-raiding villages and killing civilians. That's reckless."

She was referring to Obama's remarks last summer about Afghanistan in which he said: "We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians which is causing enormous problems there."

Is it just me or does anybody think that this is just ridiculous and downright scary if she really thinks this??

[Yonivore]

Is it just me or does anybody think that this is just ridiculous and downright scary if she really thinks this??

I think its downright offensive that Obama was accusing our military of indiscriminately bombing villages.

It should disqualify him.

I'll re-phrase, I think it's a fair characterization of someone that is offended by his comments that he should be disqualified because of his outrageous comments.

[SnakeBoy]

Is it just me or does anybody think that this is just ridiculous and downright scary if she really thinks this??

She's so scary. I'm afraid. Hold me.

[Purple & Gold]

I think its downright offensive that Obama was accusing our military of indiscriminately bombing villages.

It should disqualify him.

I'll re-phrase, I think it's a fair characterization of someone that is offended by his comments that he should be disqualified because of his outrageous comments.

That's not what he said at all. He never said they were indiscriminately bombing villages. He was talking more about the differences between direct and indirect fire due to shortage of troops on the ground. There will always be much more civilian casualties with indirect fire in comparison to direct fire.

[Purple & Gold]

She's so scary. I'm afraid. Hold me.

Sorry you ain't my type, but maybe you can borrow whottt's blowupdoll of her.

[Yonivore]

Yeah, googling funny pictures to post on a forum is totally what gets me through it all.

There's nothing wrong with that...have fun.

Just a tremendous and well thought out retort.

Why, thank you...thank you very much.

What information? All you've done is make unfounded claim after unfounded claim and provided almost nothing substantial to back it up.

So, William Ayers proximity to Obama at Columbia, at the law firm where he met Mic e, at the CAC and now are just a weird series of coincidences? That there are many other such types weaving in and out of what little history Obama has revealed is also just a coincidence?

Okay. Don't buy it, but don't claim the facts are made up. That I choose to see them pointing to an obvious relationship with William Ayers is certainly more plausible than Obama's own contention that he only met Ayers in 1995 and that he hardly knows the man, that he's just a neighbor with whom he never exchanges ideas.

[Yonivore]

That's not what he said at all. He never said they were indiscriminately bombing villages. He was talking more about the differences between direct and indirect fire due to shortage of troops on the ground. There will always be much more civilian casualties with indirect fire in comparison to direct fire.

I simply disagree with that characterization of what he said. I think he was clearly alleging the U. S. Military was indiscriminately bombing innocent civilians.

[boutons_]

"Obama was accusing our military of indiscriminately bombing villages."

indiscriminately? Did HUSSEIN say "indiscrimately"

HUSSEIN stated facts. Civilian deaths from American military are a main reason Afghans want the US out of Afghanistan, why Afghanistan's pacificaition is a failure, why Afganis don't trust the Americans, nor Karzai who is effectively only the President of Kabul, not of the country.

How many wedding parties have the Americans bombed, killing dozens of civilians each time? Of course, it was disciminate bombing of civilians, no?

[Buddy Holly]

So, William Ayers proximity to Obama at Columbia, at the law firm where he met Mic e, at the CAC and now are just a weird series of coincidences? That there are many other such types weaving in and out of what little history Obama has revealed is also just a coincidence?

The point is, what does their knowing each other have to do with anything? What are you insinuating? That's the point.

Them knowing each other is pointless. That's the point that you seem to not understand.

Okay. Don't buy it, but don't claim the facts are made up.

Hey moron, where did I state the facts were made up? Quote me where I said that any facts were made up and I'll paypal you 200 dollars.

That I choose to see them pointing to an obvious relationship with William Ayers is certainly more plausible than Obama's own contention that he only met Ayers in 1995 and that he hardly knows the man, that he's just a neighbor with whom he never exchanges ideas.

They KNOW EACH OTHER. Get over it. THERE'S NOT ONE GOT DAMN THING WRONG WITH HIM KNOWING OR BEING FRIENDS WITH AYERS.

When it's unearthed that Obama and Ayer in 1993 were both planning to bomb the White House or something then you can get wet.

[Purple & Gold]

I simply disagree with that characterization of what he said. I think he was clearly alleging the U. S. Military was indiscriminately bombing innocent civilians.

I'll have to totally disagree with how you see it. Don't see how he was alleging that at all. Pretty clear to me that he was talking about the lack of ground troops there leading to more indirect fire which leads to more civilian casualties. It's actually pretty obvious to me.

[ChumpDumper]

So, William Ayers proximity to Obama at Columbia

15,000 people lived in that area.

[Buddy Holly]

Yoni, stupid, this is verbatim what he said.

We got to get the job done there (Afghanistan) and that requires us to have enough troops that we're not just air raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there.

He's stating facts. Troops, because of the lack of soldiers, are air raiding villages and that does kill many civilians which in turn causes people of Afghanistan to hate us more.

However, Obama wasn't being general he was being specific to that problem.

The REPUBS are loving taking that out of context.

Saying he said that that's just what their doing. Killing civilians. And now you have McShame and Failin both playing doing politics at a time when there's no need for it. When McShame should be focusing on, wait for it, country first

[PixelPusher]

15,000 people lived in that area.

Post-Palin, all proximity equals experience.

[boutons_]

Here's McLiar "pal-ing around" and endorsing G. Gordon Liddy, remorseless ex-con, who explained on his radio show where to shoot federal agents to avoid their body armor.

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"Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers.

Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary";

plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson;

plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators;

plotting to firebomb the Brookings Ins ution;

and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis.

(The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol,

Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain's campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008.

In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy's radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May.

An online video labeled "John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07" includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an "old friend."

During the segment, McCain praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great," said he was "proud" of Liddy, and said that "it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program."
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http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004

Yoni darling, meet slap, you dishonest .

[florige]

Here's McLiar "pal-ing around" and endorsing G. Gordon Liddy, remorseless ex-con, who explained on his radio show where to shoot federal agents to avoid their body armor.

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"Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers.

Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary";

plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson;

plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators;

plotting to firebomb the Brookings Ins ution;

and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis.

(The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol,

Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain's campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008.

In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy's radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May.

An online video labeled "John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07" includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an "old friend."

During the segment, McCain praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great," said he was "proud" of Liddy, and said that "it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program."
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http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004

Yoni darling, meet slap, you dishonest .

[TomBrady]

The reason these attacks don't stick to Obama is that nothing can be said about Obama other than he knows of these people. He doesn't associate with them now or share their views and opinions. In fact, he denounced Rev. Wright.

So I ask conservatives on here, what are you driving at? Tell me what you are trying to say with these attacks. I want to know. Are you trying to say Obama is a terrorist and that he wants to blow up the WhiteHouse? Are you trying to say Obama wants to kill whitey?

Really I challenge you all to think rationally here. What you are saying and claiming really doesn't make any sense, and it's the reason why these attacks have not worked on Obama. I understand you were all likely raised conservatively and were taught to hate liberals and Democrats, but that line of thinking is wrong. It's dangerously wrong and it's that kind of thinking that holds back social progress in this country.

[Yonivore]

Yoni, stupid, this is verbatim what he said.

He's stating facts. Troops, because of the lack of soldiers, are air raiding villages and that does kill many civilians which in turn causes people of Afghanistan to hate us more.

However, Obama wasn't being general he was being specific to that problem.

The REPUBS are loving taking that out of context.

Saying he said that that's just what their doing. Killing civilians. And now you have McShame and Failin both playing doing politics at a time when there's no need for it. When McShame should be focusing on, wait for it, country first

They weren't air raiding villages and killing civilians. Every strike has been done with precision munitions that targeted specific buildings with known or suspected Taliban or al Qaeda inside. That there are family, friends, or non-combatants co-habitating with the enemy cannot be characterized as "air raiding villages and killing civilians" as if they were indiscriminate acts.

But, of course, I'm sure you believe the reports that come back out of Afghanistan or Pakistan. Every strike we ever committed only ever killed innocent people according to the Taliban or Obama.

[Yonivore]

The reason these attacks don't stick to Obama is that nothing can be said about Obama other than he knows of these people. He doesn't associate with them now or share their views and opinions. In fact, he denounced Rev. Wright.

How credible is that denunciation when he spent 20 years in the congregation?

[Buddy Holly]

They weren't air raiding villages and killing civilians. Every strike has been done with precision munitions that targeted specific buildings with known or suspected Taliban or al Qaeda inside. That there are family, friends, or non-combatants co-habitating with the enemy cannot be characterized as "air raiding villages and killing civilians" as if they were indiscriminate acts.

But, of course, I'm sure you believe the reports that come back out of Afghanistan or Pakistan. Every strike we ever committed only ever killed innocent people according to the Taliban or Obama.

Oh shut the up.

I have friends and relatives who have done more than one tour of both Afghanistan and Iraq. The stories they can tell are ed up. Please don't even try to tell me that soldiers over there have never air raided a village or never killed civilians, whether on accident or on purpose. Because you'd be straight up lying your pretend off.

You need to stop drinking the kool-aid FOX News, Rush and whatever far right you listen or watch.

[Buddy Holly]

How credible is that denunciation when he spent 20 years in the congregation?

I have an Aunt that attended Cornerstone for almost 11 years before moving to a different side of the city and joining another church.

Guess what, she isn't as loony as Hagee nor believe everything he believes in. She still attends Cornerstone from time to time, maybe once every 4 months.

Though I guess if I wanted to, I could guilt her by association or proxy.

[SnakeBoy]

I understand you were all likely raised conservatively and were taught to hate liberals and Democrats, but that line of thinking is wrong.

Growing up, I got straight A's in all of my "Liberals & Democrats are the Devil" courses. So don't try to trick me, Obama is a secret muslim terrorist.

[Purple & Gold]

They weren't air raiding villages and killing civilians. Every strike has been done with precision munitions that targeted specific buildings with known or suspected Taliban or al Qaeda inside. That there are family, friends, or non-combatants co-habitating with the enemy cannot be characterized as "air raiding villages and killing civilians" as if they were indiscriminate acts.

But, of course, I'm sure you believe the reports that come back out of Afghanistan or Pakistan. Every strike we ever committed only ever killed innocent people according to the Taliban or Obama.

Sounds like you don't really understand how air raids work. There is really no such thing as precision attacks that target only certain buildings. Sometimes it works, but many times it doesn't. Civilian casualties are just way to high when dealing with indirect fire. It's just the nature of that type of attack.