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    1. Did I post it as a quote?
    2. Are you suggesting that the man who would be president doesn't choose his friends carefully?
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...y-of-rhetoric/
    So you have no instance of Obama's insiting he chooses his friends carefully and that it qualifies him to be president. just say so.


    I love it when you play captain obvious.
    Yes, it's obvious some of those accusations are complete bull .



    Good CD, I didn't say he terminated them all.
    Good, what are you saying?

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    Hmmm, don't see any Phlager, Wright, Ayers or Rezco types listed there, not to mention that Obama was linked with 4 radicals (there are more, we'll save them for another time), not 1 family member.
    FAIL!
    Hmm. i don't see Obama bombing anything. FAIL!


    He enjoyed the relationship with the man who asked God to Damn America (any links to where Obama spoke out against that outrage "before" his prez run?), to the degree that Wright presided over their Wedding and baptized their children.
    Any quote saying Obama damned America at any time?

    No?

    FAIL!

    Other than you, who suggested that he bombed America?
    You.

    There's nothing else about Ayers that anyone has ever claimed, and you seem to thing that being around anyone for any amount of time means you think exactly alike. So, yes, you are saying Obama damns and bombs America. Now prove it.

    That's all you have on the last quote?
    Great putdown cd, seriously
    There wasn't any substance to the last quote, so yeah. You suck as bad as your little quotes.

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    So, you really think it's a winning strategy to argue whether or not Obama actually said he picks his friends carefully?
    You think it's a winning strategy to try to scare people with Ayers and Wright. Unfortunately for you, it isn't working.

    Would you prefer it be proven that he didn't and, in fact, was pretty damn wreckless in picking those with whom he chose to associate?

    Well, we're working on it.
    You're failing pretty badly. McCain's lawyer said so.

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    I'm sure Obama had some weird people come hang around him,...
    Your attempt at equivocating aside, this really needs to be addressed.

    Obama sought the position on the CAC, and organization founded by William Ayers -- Ayers didn't just come "hang around him"

    Obama joined Rev. Wright's church -- Wright didn't just come "hang around him."

    In every case, Obama went and "hung around those people"

    Nice try though.

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    Your attempt at equivocating aside, this really needs to be addressed.

    Obama sought the position on the CAC, and organization founded by William Ayers -- Ayers didn't just come "hang around him"

    Obama joined Rev. Wright's church -- Wright didn't just come "hang around him."

    In every case, Obama went and "hung around those people"

    Nice try though.
    So what is the end game here?

    What direct influence do you idiots claim these people had on Obama.

    Bombing or America damning?

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    Your attempt at equivocating aside, this really needs to be addressed.

    Obama sought the position on the CAC, and organization founded by William Ayers -- Ayers didn't just come "hang around him"

    Obama joined Rev. Wright's church -- Wright didn't just come "hang around him."

    In every case, Obama went and "hung around those people"

    Nice try though.
    And your point is?

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    "I Was Nine Years Old when Barack Obama's friend tried to kill me."

    The mainstream media have bought Barack Obama's spin on his relationship with Bill Ayers--"I was only eight years old when he was trying to commit mass murder!"--hook, line and sinker. So it's revealing to hear from one of Ayers' intended victims, John Murtagh:

    During the April 16 debate between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, moderator George Stephanopoulos brought up “a gentleman named William Ayers,” who “was part of the Weather Underground in the 1970s. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, and other buildings. He’s never apologized for that.” Stephanopoulos then asked Obama to explain his relationship with Ayers. Obama’s answer: “The notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn’t make much sense, George.” Obama was indeed only eight in early 1970. I was only nine then, the year Ayers’s Weathermen tried to murder me.

    In February 1970, my father, a New York State Supreme Court justice, was presiding over the trial of the so-called “Panther 21,” members of the Black Panther Party indicted in a plot to bomb New York landmarks and department stores. Early on the morning of February 21, as my family slept, three gasoline-filled firebombs exploded at our home on the northern tip of Manhattan, two at the front door and the third tucked neatly under the gas tank of the family car. (Today, of course, we’d call that a car bomb.) A neighbor heard the first two blasts and, with the remains of a snowman I had built a few days earlier, managed to douse the flames beneath the car. That was an act whose courage I fully appreciated only as an adult, an act that doubtless saved multiple lives that night.
    Read it all. During the years when Obama was "palling around" with Ayers, as Sarah Palin accurately termed it, Ayers was proud of his attempt to kill nine-year-old John Murtagh and his family. He said, for publication, that his only regret was that he, his wife and their murderous colleagues hadn't tried to kill more people. This unrepentant would-be mass murderer was the one person, over all other friends and acquaintances, whom Barack Obama chose to host his inaugural Democratic Party political fundraiser. And Ayers was Obama's close collaborator in trying to "reform" Chicago's public education system by drenching it in radical politics and anti-Americanism.

    Exactly as Obama dropped out of Jeremiah "God damn America" Wright's church only when the association became politically inconvenient, he insincerely "denounced" Ayers only after his association with the terrorist had become a liability. That was after years of working with Ayers as a radical political ally, without showing the slightest concern about his friend's career as an attempted mass murderer.

    One wonders, sometimes, what it would take to convince an American reporter that a Democratic Presidential candidate has poor judgment.

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    And your point is?
    Sorry, didn't realize you needed simplified bullet points.

    1) Obama hung around Ayers and Wright, not the other way around.

    2) There is no one in Senator McCain's past or present circle of friends, associates, or acquaintenances that come close to the s that are Wright and Ayers.

    Clear enough?

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    One wonders, sometimes, what it would take to convince Yoni to quit passing off other people's ideas as his own.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive.../10/021712.php

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    Sorry, didn't realize you needed simplified bullet points.

    1) Obama hung around Ayers and Wright, not the other way around.

    2) There is no one in Senator McCain's past or present circle of friends, associates, or acquaintenances that come close to the s that are Wright and Ayers.

    Clear enough?
    And that makes Obama guilty of what exactly?

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    And that makes Obama guilty of what exactly?
    Damning and bombing America. How many blogs do I have to rip off before you get it?

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    And that makes Obama guilty of what exactly?
    First of all, there are a couple of dozen posts that detail exactly what Obama is being accused of...I don't see the value in repeating them all here; simply scroll back.

    This particular exchange was to put the lie to your attempt to equate any possible association McCain might have with Obama's association with Ayers and Wright...and a few other radical leftists.

    Secondly, I thought it needed to be pointed out that you inferred Wright and Ayers were people that "Hung around" with Obama when, in fact, it was the other way around.

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    Yonivore claims that leather penguins hang around him, not the other way around.

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    These carefully chosen friends are a mixed bag of criminals, anti-American radicals, bigots, extortionists, etc.

    A mixed bag of accusations, some baseless.
    I'll ask again, which ones?


    (btw, your last post was a major failure (it wreaked of wadded panties) to the extent that it did not merit a reply...of course, you already knew that)

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    Neither Keating or Coors are terrorists who wish they'd of killed more Americans when they had the chance.

    Plus, McCain has answered for his association with Keating -- and was exonerated by the ethics committee.

    I don't know anything about your Coors accusation.
    This isn't about McCain's actions in the scandal. This is about what Charles Keating did. Since you guys like to take associations that far it's very relevant (according to you) that McCain and Keating were friends. I keep mentioning the Joe Coors things because he FINANCED terrorists in Nicaragua.

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    I'll ask again, which ones?

    btw, your post sucked too, and since you want to be a super about it and not deal with the issues raised, no one is going to give a about these things you pretend to be important. If you can show me an example of Obama's damning or bombing America, being bigoted against whitey or extorting money, you may have a point. Otherwise, you have simply failed and nothing you can do will change that.

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    This isn't about McCain's actions in the scandal. This is about what Charles Keating did. Since you guys like to take associations that far it's very relevant (according to you) that McCain and Keating were friends. I keep mentioning the Joe Coors things because he FINANCED terrorists in Nicaragua.
    Exactly. McCain KNEW these guys!

    He's just as bad!

    He did and does everything his acquaintances ever did or ever will do!

    You can't deny any of this!

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    btw, your post sucked too, and since you want to be a super about it and not deal with the issues raised, no one is going to give a about these things you pretend to be important. If you can show me an example of Obama's damning or bombing America, being bigoted against whitey or extorting money, you may have a point. Otherwise, you have simply failed and nothing you can do will change that.
    <you forgot to add the "< >" at the beginning and the end>

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    This isn't about McCain's actions in the scandal. This is about what Charles Keating did. Since you guys like to take associations that far it's very relevant (according to you) that McCain and Keating were friends.
    Ah, okay.

    Rezko. That's a bit more contemporaneous, eh?

    I keep mentioning the Joe Coors things because he FINANCED terrorists in Nicaragua.
    I see, do tell.

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    Uhmm, I put my foot in my mouth and I don't know how to get it out.
    I don't know cd, maybe try blowing your nose really hard.

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    I can't find any example of Obama doing any of these things. I've got nothing.
    You idiots have thrown the kitchen sink at this guy.

    Let me know when you find the damn America bomb that Obama planted after extorting money.

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    Ah, okay.

    Rezko. That's a bit more contemporaneous, eh?
    Sure why not. But why do you guys keep dodging questions about McCain? I haven't brought up anything regarding relationships and their negative effects on candidates. YOU GUYS HAVE. So keep bringing up all the "bad" people who might know Obama and keep dodging questions about McCain. It just makes you guys look like hypocrites.


    I see, do tell.
    ...I have already but I'll go at it again I suppose. Joe Coors started this little organization called the U.S. Council for World Freedom. John McCain sat on its board. Joe Coors funded the Contras. There. John McCain must also like funding terrorists.

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    First of all, there are a couple of dozen posts that detail exactly what Obama is being accused of...I don't see the value in repeating them all here; simply scroll back.

    This particular exchange was to put the lie to your attempt to equate any possible association McCain might have with Obama's association with Ayers and Wright...and a few other radical leftists.

    Secondly, I thought it needed to be pointed out that you inferred Wright and Ayers were people that "Hung around" with Obama when, in fact, it was the other way around.
    Stop beating around the bush. I asked you a very simple question. It doesn't matter if these people hung around Obama or if Obama hung around them.

    Whichever way it is, Obama is guilty of what exactly?

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    Sure why not. But why do you guys keep dodging questions about McCain? I haven't brought up anything regarding relationships and their negative effects on candidates. YOU GUYS HAVE. So keep bringing up all the "bad" people who might know Obama and keep dodging questions about McCain. It just makes you guys look like hypocrites.
    What have I dodged? McCain was cleared of any wrong-doing in the Keating 5 scandal. I'm not sure his association with Keating continued after that, do you know?

    ...I have already but I'll go at it again I suppose. Joe Coors started this little organization called the U.S. Council for World Freedom. John McCain sat on its board. Joe Coors funded the Contras. There. John McCain must also like funding terrorists.
    Is it universally accepted that the Contras were a terrorist group? Or, is that a construct of socialists, liberals, and bed wetters such as yourself.

    Supporting the Contras against the Sandinista-backed guerrillas was pretty much the policy of the Reagan administration and most conservatives of the time. So, you're going to have some trouble convincing anyone pre-disposed to vote for McCain that he was association with a person supporting terrorists.

    On the other, however; I think everyone would agree -- including Barack Obama himself -- That William Ayers and his wife, Dorhn, were terrorists. Not only that, they were domestic terrorists in the business of trying to kill Americans.

    Knock yourself out. The Coors and Keating associations should be exposed. I'm sure the McCain Campaign can make their case much better than can Barack Obama over his decades-long associations with American-hating leftist nut jobs.

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    What have I dodged? McCain was cleared of any wrong-doing in the Keating 5 scandal.
    Let's see. He took $112,000 from Keating and his associates for his campaigns, had his wife and her father go in on a shopping mall with him, and took nine trips in one year on Keating's dime, many to the Bahamas using Keating's private jet.

    And again, it doesn't matter if he never spoke to him again -- he knew him at one time, so he obviously is guilty of anything Keating ever did.

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    What have I dodged? McCain was cleared of any wrong-doing in the Keating 5 scandal. I'm not sure his association with Keating continued after that, do you know?
    this is rich. He tried to get the man off for god's sake. That tells me he didn't exactly cut off friendship when the scandal broke.


    Is it universally accepted that the Contras were a terrorist group?
    By rational people who see human rights violations as terrorism, yeah.
    Or, is that a construct of socialists, liberals, and bed wetters such as yourself.
    Bed wetters? Nice.

    Supporting the Contras against the Sandinista-backed guerrillas was pretty much the policy of the Reagan administration and most conservatives of the time. So, you're going to have some trouble convincing anyone pre-disposed to vote for McCain that he was association with a person supporting terrorists.
    At least you're honest about one thing.

    On the other, however; I think everyone would agree -- including Barack Obama himself -- That William Ayers and his wife, Dorhn, were terrorists. Not only that, they were domestic terrorists in the business of trying to kill Americans.
    And that's why Obama has publicly denounced the acts.

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