So should we interview all the other plumbers in the US who are voting for Obama? And then go to all the moderately re ed "hockey moms" who are voting for Obama? I guess that's a possibility.
I think he already has...
Politics as usual for Obama and Co. And that's how the moderates are going to view it...
Ya'll be sure to keep throwing Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin under the bus while racking up endorsements from politicians...because nothing says change like that![]()
So should we interview all the other plumbers in the US who are voting for Obama? And then go to all the moderately re ed "hockey moms" who are voting for Obama? I guess that's a possibility.
You may label it as progressive taxation, that's your prerogative, but wresting 130 billion a year from the wealthy, and spreading around their earnings to others in the way of increased Government en lements is a form of socialism, yes indeed.
It has nothing to do with Joe personally, nor is it related to a Powell endorsement, it has everything to do with Obama's reply to a question.
Here is the Muslim US soldier Powell was referencing.
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How is regressive taxation not socialism? Is that not an example of redistributing wealth? What is the difference between subsidizing emerging technology through DARPA and subsidizing medicare and medicaid?
Obama was completely respectful and diplomatic when talking to Joe the Plumber... which actually highlights the "change" that he so often talks about. The fact that some overzealous people on both sides have decided (as usual) to blow this simple interaction way out of proportion and start attributing all sorts of qualities to Joe has nothing to do with Obama. Obama's very civil and direct answer to Joe's question showed the qualities of his temperament and personality that so many voters find appealing.
Scientific data collected regarding where the undecided vote will end up;
Google search in quotes
"Undecided voters for Obama" 9 results
"Undecided voters for McCain" 8 results
Within the margin of error, therefore still too close to call.
Google hits are not polling data. Massive fail.
And the backlash has begun....
How can an undecided voter be for a candidate?
Lamebot.
Powell's Obama endorsement 'devastating,' analysts say
By Margaret Talev, William Douglas and Nancy A. Youssef | McClatchy Newspapers
McClatchydcWASHINGTON — Colin Powell, a retired general who'd often been mentioned as a Republican presidential candidate himself, endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president Sunday during the taping of NBC's "Meet the Press" television program.
Political analysts said Powell's endorsement, coupled with a blistering critique of the campaign of Republican Sen. John McCain, especially of the selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate, was a serious blow to McCain's candidacy, particularly in swing states with large numbers of undecided voters.
"It was a devastating critique. He gave a convincing national endorsement. That's what made it so damaging," said Larry J. Sabato, the director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics. "This is a more important endorsement than Oprah's."
Susan MacManus, a political science professor at the University of South Florida in Tampa, said that Powell appeals to independents who are socially liberal, fiscally conservative and moderate on defense issues. Because they shun party labels, they are more swayed by personality, and Powell is a respected national figure. Independents make as much as 9 percent of voters in swing states.
The timing of the endorsement is key as well. In some swing states, voting has already begun. And in Florida, early voting begins Monday. Obama will be campaigning in Tampa.
"That is why this is a prized endorsement," McManus said. "I can't think of a more important endorsement at this point in the campaign."
G. Terry Madonna, director of the Center for Politics and Public Affairs at Franklin & Marshall College in Pennsylvania, echoed this comments.
"This is a huge endorsement, maybe the most significant endorsement he's got," Madonna said. ""For undecided voters who are looking at their concerns about national security and defense, this is a plus."
Not being able to differentiate between obvious humor and reality.
Priceless.
What humor?
Hardly obvious given your history of cherry-picking poll results that suit you.
How is giving 700 billion to buy into insurance co. and banks not socialism? How is giving billions of dollars to foriegn countires who are not tax payers not socialism.??
come on.....your arguemment is weak and you know it....prepare for your party(the fascist party) to be thrown out of office with a thud.
I don't have a party. Which party is about to lose the White House? It's not the candidate that I'm supporting.
And I didn't say the bank bailout wasn't socialism. It's just weak to call progressive taxation socialism. Do you agree that progressive taxation is socialism? Learn to read. You don't even know what my argument is. Are you sure you're not replying to somebody else?
So we've gone from 'Powell lied, people died' to this seals the deal for Obama?
You libs are funny.
Did People Not Die In The Twin Towers?
You sir, are brilliant.
Typical conservative . I don't like Powell, but how can you not see that this helps Obama with moderate independents? Can you read? Are you literate? Do you have an IQ above room temperature?
Socialism is an economic system where the government owns the means of production. It has nothing to do with redistribution of wealth through taxes. All so-called capitalist (private ownership of means of production) countries include some socialism and some redistribution, every single one. The only question is what is the right mix. Just throwing around the S word is meaningless soundbite politics.
I'll never forgive Powell for the Iraq War, but I do acknowledge he has tremendous sway with military communities and moderate Republicans. This endorsement may not sway many independents, but it might harden support from those who were reluctantly voting for Obama.
Powell is just trying to get some of his street cred back
Or-- the more likely reason-- he truly thinks Obama would make a better president.
It is "Bush lied, people died" you idiot. You cons are so full of crap.
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