Bowen said it's a business and nothing personal - the look in his eye told a different story.
Tim Duncan refused to speak to the Media
I hope this doesn't cause trouble.
It better not cause that kind of trouble.
These guys make 3-15 million dollars a year...they aren't making that to be in a social club.
Most of us are miserable over Malik being traded...it hurts. But that's no excuse to tank and pout and I will lose respect for any player that lets it effect them in that way.
Well said.
Chemistry within a team is a delicate thing to control. I believe the Spurs ARE professional enough to handle this in the correct manner
While these men know the NBA is a business it doesn't mean they can't act human.
Not to sound callous, but you know damn well Tim was consulted before making this deal. I think he just didn't want to face the questions implying as much.
I'm not so sure Duncan has the kind of pull he used to have to warrant a consultation. He's signed up long term now. I see him get yelled at more...He doesn't have that leverage of going elsewhere any more. Pop doesn't have to play that game anymore and Pop is a guy that likes having control.
Not only that but Malik had a lot of personal investment in this team as well. I can see how Pop might think it disrespectful to Malik to let any other players know about it before letting Malik himself know.
IMO, I don't think Duncan would have wanted to do this trade. Duncan knows he can win with Malik...he's been through wars with Malik right there beside him, there's a type of trust there and a bond there that isn't easily cast aside IMO...
I don't think Duncan would let Malik go for someone like Mohammed if it was up to him.
This isn't Jason Kidd VS an unproven PG. It's Malik VS an unproven C.
jason kidd is a proven winner when?
just maybe pop has to get on duncan more this year
his stats are down you do realize that whott
it is not like duncan is having a mvp year
duncan is not a idiot
spurs were not trying to hide the fact they were shopping rose
everyone knows how close rose was actually to become a knick last year
duncan would have said something
rember this year duncan went to bat for tp about his extenstion
IMO HE HAS PULL
Good point, have to remember to never label Kidd a winner because he most certainly isn't...as his dumbas decision to stay in NJ proved...Let's just say he had more impressive credentials at the time the Kidd pursuit began than Parker did. He was more of a proven PG.
Um...Duncan is like third in the league in rebounding and blocks...his scoring his down...but Manu and Parker and taking more shots and Duncan's minutes are reduced.
Pop has said he is deliberately reducing Duncan's minutes...Where have you been the entire season?
Look...if you don't think anything changed when Duncan signed a long term contract then you must not be a very good businessman.
Duncan doesn't have the leverage of signing with another team in one or two years that he used to have...That was a tremendous amount of leverage Duncan had and he used it very well.
Pop doesn't have to kiss Duncan's ass like he used too...isn't it obvious?
The only out Duncan has now is to become a malcontent and demand a trade...would you want to be traded from this team if you were him? Manu and Parker? They built the freaking practice facility close to his house for his comfort...he's got it made here.
He doesn't have the leverage of just being able to walk like he used to do...
I think he was consulted on the Kidd deal...but that was because he was a FA...the Spurs were at his mercy.
This is different...they aren't at his mercy now.
lets see...
how many superstars have demanded being traded
several
how many got traded several
peja demanded one but did not get traded but he got webber gone
vc got traded
mcgrady got traded
kobe got shaq gone and phil gone
see if pop makes duncan mad enough maybe duncan will be next
I doubt pop would take that risk what do you think?
I don't get the point you are making...everyone knew Malik was going to be traded...but I don't know what makes you think Duncan had say on if it went through or not.
And Pop went to bat for Parker as well, it was all very public and well do ented...plus Holt was being stupid.
I'm sorry whott, gotta disagree. We've been shopping Malik for over a year now. Everyone with a pulse in south Texas knew that, and you can bet that Tim did too.
If he really felt he needed Rose to get his back, he would have made it known. I think the reality is the Spurs front office and Tim both came to the same conclusion - we need more size than just Tim and Rasho to deal with our potential playoff opponents, particularly our probable opponent in the Finals for the next 3-4 years (the Heat).
Nope, I don't think Duncan had any say in this trade....and I don't think he's the same type of individual as most of the guys that demand trades...that's pretty obvious.
Duncan could have gotten what ever he wanted in his contract year...because he could just walk. That's a lot different than demanding a trade...how often is it well recieved when a player starts demanding a trade?
On top of that Duncan is set up for the long haul here now...he'd be foolish to leave...and Pop is smart enough to know that.
I say that if Duncan had any say on whether or not THIS trade went down, if the Spurs were still waking on eggs s to appease him...that it would not have gone down.
I hope the drama doesn't make it's way into the player's heads.
If Duncan still has that much pull then why was the appeal for Parker made public?
Why didn't he just walk into Holt's office and say sign him and it never saw the light of day?
That's not what happened...he pleaded for Parker to be signed. And so did Pop...
And yes, I know everyone knew Malik was going to be traded...I don't see how that proves Duncan was embracing it.
I just don't think Duncan is sitting there getting wood over Nazr Mohammed...
Duncan doesn't hate Malik like you and Ducks do.
I am sure duncan would like to have a longer career and realizes how much david helped him
IF NAZR buys into the system and starts doing more then rasho everyone will forgot about rose
And if Duncan still had that kind of pull Stephen Jackson would be on this team.
Even Duncan is an employee of the Spurs organization.
player gms suck
see kobe me bryant
I never said he did.
I think there's a big myth about Tim's friends on the team. We traded away AD when they were best friends, and they still talk. I just think Tim is smart enough to realize what he needs around him on the court, and in this case it was more than Malik had to offer.
It was a lot easier to cover up Rose's limitations (namely height) when he had Duncan, Elliott, and Drob bracketing him on the Spurs front line.
well, i expected that.
..i hope you are not implying Duncan is a non-factor to our best record this season, Ducks.
Duncan doesn't have to play 40 minutes to prove he is an MVP contender and improve his stats, & playing garbage time. just by being the "GLUE" of this team is enough.
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