Honestly, Ballijuana, you're so obsessed with the Jazz, it makes you blind when it comes to anyone else in the league. You can't handle any criticism when it comes to the Jazz because its true. You really think the Jazz will win a championship with this group?
Bro, I've been watching about 20+ NBA games a week since I got League Pass in 2003.
I grew up watching Stockton and Malone from the age of 3 on up.
I watched NBA on NBC every weekend for a decade.
I have probably 4500+ basketball cards from the 90's.
I played ball in HS and until about a year ago played in 3 pickup games a week.
You just figured out who Chris Paul was, what? Six months ago?
Get the out.
I despise the Jazz with a passion, but I couldn't say with a straight face that Parker is better than Williams. If I were starting a team I would rather have Deron.
No clown. I don't. And I've been saying so since well before the season started.
Uhhh, yes he does. TP crosses people up all the time, do you watch him play? He weaves in and out of players like they are cones. He does it an extremely high speed as well. TP's speed and crossover allow him to get tons of space for his jumper all day long.
Ginobili is still averaging 16 points (he was the leading scorer last year) and as for the routinely missing "40" games, GTFO. Since he has been in the league (02-03) here is the games played: 69,77,74,65,75,74. Up to this year he has never missed anywhere close to 40 games and it shows you are just talking out of your arse.
Duncan, with his bone on bone is still scoring 20 ppg.
LOL, you really posted this nonsense? What a joke. This post is all you needed to show what a tool you are.
What's next, you're gonna tell me you got Mark Eaton's autograph when you were 7?
Or you read Greg Ostertag's autobiography on how to get -slapped by Shaq?
Or how you were cheering loudly when Malone elbowed Isiah in the face? Or even Joe Kline?
Good grief, this was a sad attempt to show the world how much "You Love This Game".
And I would not say you are wrong. But to scoff at TP in the conversation is just flat out wrong. He has too many accolades and has won too much to dismiss him, especially since he has gotten better.
Look at TP's playoff impact. You cannot tell me the overall talent for the Spurs has just been a ridiculous advantage over the Jazz recently, especially since almost every major basketball analyst picks the Jazz to beat the Spurs. Yet Deron has not led the Jazz to anything spectacular yet.
Of course he doesn't watch Parker play. He even admitted recently he had barely seen CP3 play. He only watches the Jazz.
And not to knock either of them [manu, TD]. I still have Timmy as the single best PF in the league and when he's healthy, Manu scares the out me. I don't want the Jazz to play them. But we just have to be real about the reality of their injuries and just how much opportunity TP is left with as a result.
Tony Parker is a soldier of that there is no doubt. I think he may be the most fearless player in the NBA as much as he hits the floor getting into the paint. The reason I chose Deron Williams is because I think he is a great point guard that can score. Parker is more of a scorer with good point guard skills. Does that make any sense?I just think Deron is a better floor general.
What the ever man. The only team you'd EVER seen before this season or last was the Saints.
And I don't watch the Hornets because I'm usually busy watching the Hawks, Cavs, Lakers and Jazz. Well that... and I don't enjoy watching made little gots like Chris Paul and David West. No matter how good they are.
I see what you are saying, TP has stepped up his scoring, but the Spurs are a team that make a living off of sharing the ball. TP has had to step up, but that is not a knock on him. Look at where the Spurs are at. I know the Jazz are the only team in the West that have had as much injuries as the Spurs, especially to key players, but TP has to get some credit, as much as Williams, for getting the Spurs to the 2nd seed.
The Jazz are entertaining to watch, when they're at home.
I used to routinely watch the Jazz lose to the Lakers in the 80s. Good times with Showtime.
Also watched the Jazz blow a 9 point lead in Game 6 against the Bulls.
At least the Jazz won a game against the Spurs two years ago.
Yes it makes sense. I just feel that TP is harder to gauge because he plays with Tim. It leads people to under value him. Certain systems, TP is better, certain systems would be better suited to have Deron running the show.Tony Parker is a soldier of that there is no doubt. I think he may be the most fearless player in the NBA as much as he hits the floor getting into the paint. The reason I chose Deron Williams is because I think he is a great point guard that can score. Parker is more of a scorer with good point guard skills. Does that make any sense?
But in my mind it is not: 1) CP3 2) Deron 3) Tony. I would have it 1)CP3 2) TP 2a) Deron. But I would be ok with someone else having Deron as 2 and TP as 2a.
My point is that if Deron is considered a "franchise player", then TP has to be in there and there is no solid argument that Deron is enough ahead of TP that he could be considered a no questions asked "franchise player" and TP not be.
Dude, i know more about sports than you can ever dream. The only thing you have on me is Jazz, but that's all. When it comes to anything else, you're impotent, just like the Jazz on the road. Speaking of impotence, you're at that age. Need me to prescribe something for you?
Look, I like TP. I think he is a great player for you guys. I'd have him as the 3rd best PG in the league. Especially this year. I agree that he deserves plenty of credit. There's plenty of players who couldn't carry a franchise like he's done. He's put this team on his back and his game today is light years ahead of where it was when he didn't have a jumpshot.
It's just, man, it's really hard for me to swallow a TP>Deron argument. And maybe it is because I'm being a homer. That's definitely the reason I'm so passionate about it. But I can honestly say, with as an objective opinion as I think I can muster, Tony Parker is not as good a point guard as Deron Williams. And , I think almost 95% of NBA fans would agree with me.
That is where TP being under valued comes into play. I know that you are right, and that 95% would say that. But when you challenge them to state why, and prove their stance, it would be increasingly difficult for them to do so.
It is not like when a Spurs fan says Manu > Kobe. You can make case after case after case that Kobe is better, you can prove it.
But with Deron > TP, I do not think you can.
The PER stat is great to determine statistical efficiency, but it doesn't determine how well a player defends. You have to watch alot of film to break down how well a player defends. Still, I think in the NBA, great players are noted for how well they do offensively.
As I've said before, Dirk is ripe for the Spurs bench where he can get the necessary emotional support and coaching in order to perform to his potential.
In Dallas he will remain a choker forever.
Yes he is.
Jesus Christ.
It's funny to look back and just laugh.
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