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    5 years, $32 mil for Gortat?
    The hilarious part is that if the Magic were eliminated in the first round, he probably gets like a two-year, $6M deal somewhere. The Magic making it to the Finals upped his value like five fold.
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    5 years, $32 mil for Gortat?
    Wow...WTF?
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    Oh well...

    I wanted Gortat but the Spurs shouldn't have to overpay for him either.
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    'Dyess wouldn't be a bad consolation, but he'd definitely be a consolation.

    'Sheed's defensive-length is something 'Dyess just can't duplicate. He's more of a workman-type player than 'Sheed and brings a lot of positive attributes to a team, but he ain't Wallace.

    The Spurs, with the acquisition of Jefferson and the willingness to go into the luxury tax, are in a "win now" mode. If Wallace is believed to be the piece that helps you to do that, and it takes a third year to acquire his services, you do so.

    Worse comes to worst, he's an expiring contract in year 3...
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    The hilarious part is that if the Magic were eliminated in the first round, he probably gets like a two-year, $6M deal somewhere. The Magic making it to the Finals upped his value like five fold.

    Yes he's cashing in on his play in the ECF vs. Cavs!!

    This is his lottery ticket....good for him!!

    I wanted him to come to the Spurs but giving him the MLE for 5 years is way too much!!!
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    Do we know if and when Sheed is coming to SA to meet with them?
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    Our chances seem to be getting slimmer and slimmer of picking up a quality big. Was it Obstructed View that said free agents never sign with us-good ones anyway. Maybe he's right.

    It's looking like the Celtics will get Sheed and Gortat is gone to Dallas. So, that leaves Dyess-great, but we know how he doesn't want to leave Detroit.

    Boston.

    And, I don't give a damn about Bass. I'm not too optimistic anymore, but I hope I'm dead wrong. and the FO will surprise us again.
    Huh? No we don't. From what I've read he's happy to leave Detroit after leaving money on the table to return to their ongoing disaster last year, and Detroit spent all their money on Gordon and Charlie V (although I wouln't have a clue why).

    Sheed will go to Boston and have a poor season because he's really slowed down the last two years, which has clearly affected his defense (especially getting to corner shooters), and his shooting has never been all that (poor shot selection a career trade mark, and a 35% average from 3).

    We will land McDyess, who would love a ring and is a perfect fit next to Timmy - he has a fantastic mid-range jumper, is excellent on the boards, and a decent defender. He doesn't block a whole lot of shots, but that's okay because Timmy and Ian can do that for the first and second teams respectively.

    Bring on Antonio.
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    Do we know if and when Sheed is coming to SA to meet with them?
    Next week. I forget which of the 37 Sheed threads it was in.
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    Do we know if and when Sheed is coming to SA to meet with them?
    I'm sure he will...when? Who knows...
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    Leave it to Cuban to overpay a big white center who played well in limited minutes.
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    every free agent thread marcus makes some other team signs
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    every free agent thread marcus makes some other team signs
    Then the Spurs will sign no one.
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    Sheed, at this point in his career, is massively over-rated by most people IMHO. I owned him in Dynasty League and watched a bit of him last year to see how he was faring. I came back rather worried that he'd stepped off the productivity cliff that haunts most bigs around the age of 35, so I dealt him for Michael Redd (who was injured at the time, and the guy who gave him to me was making a run at the trophy... but I got a steal however you look at it).
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    Oh well...

    I wanted Gortat but the Spurs shouldn't have to overpay for him either.
    The Mavs better hope Gortat doesn't turn into Diop 2.0
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    If Sheed goes back to Boston.....

    then the Spurs should get McDyess and Rasho (I can't believe I just wrote that)LOL!!!
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    Over on CelticsBlog, we just saw that Danny Ainge showed up on Rasheed Wallace’s doorstep last night at midnight to give Boston’s recruiting pitch to the free agent.

    That pretty much tells you, just like everyone’s been talking about for the past few days, ‘Sheed is Boston’s No. 1 free agent target this offseason. On paper, a lineup of ‘Sheed, KG, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and Rajon Rondo (assuming Boston can’t swing a trade to get him out of town), looks pretty solid. But there are lots of concerns.

    First off, they’re old. Whether it was because ‘Sheed just didn’t care about last season or whatever, by the time the Cavs dismissed the Pistons, he didn’t look like he had much left in the tank. Would a move to Boston rejuvenate him? Maybe. But I wouldn’t be looking for a whole lot out of Wallace beyond just hanging out at the top of the key to jack threes. Another shooter helps them, but it’s not really what they need - another athletic perimeter player who can create his own shot and take some of the scoring burden off of Paul Pierce.

    And how about Rasheed’s on-court antics? Even the most die-hard Detroit fan has to admit that it’s a tired act at this point. Maybe playing with KG, Pierce and Ray will chill him out a bit.

    Overall, I think Boston clearly needs to get younger and faster. Remember when the Celtics’ master plan behind drafting Len Bias was that his youth and athleticism would extend the careers of Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Robert Parish? Danny Ainge needs to apply that same type of thinking to this Boston team. While there’s probably nobody out there like a Len Bias, there are guys to be had. The San Antonio Spurs just pulled off exactly what I’m talking about with their acquisition of Richard Jefferson. The Spurs moved a few bit pieces for a guy who will keep their championship contender window open a few years long just by being in the mix.

    A move like that makes a ton more sense than paying for a guy who might be done.

    http://dimemag.com/2009/07/this-woul...r-the-celtics/
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    The Mavs better hope Gortat doesn't turn into Diop 2.0
    That would suck for the Mavs!!

    However, Gortat is getting the biggest contract in his career!!!!!
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    Gortat pretty much IS the white Diop.
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    Sheed, at this point in his career, is massively over-rated by most people IMHO. I owned him in Dynasty League and watched a bit of him last year to see how he was faring. I came back rather worried that he'd stepped off the productivity cliff that haunts most bigs around the age of 35, so I dealt him for Michael Redd (who was injured at the time, and the guy who gave him to me was making a run at the trophy... but I got a steal however you look at it).
    Judging 'Sheed's effectiveness going forward, on last year's performance, isn't all that wise.

    Detroit was a veteran team that had gone stale, traded their floor-general, and whose front office had mailed in the season.

    It was a once proud, championship-caliber team, that knew it was going nowhere. Was it really a surprise that individual and team success wouldn't thrive in such a cir stance?

    'Sheed's not what he used to be but he'd be an upgrade over the Horry of 3 years ago, and I don't see how Spurs fans wouldn't welcome him with open arms.

    Stop judging 'Sheed as to where he is to his prime, and start looking at the type of role he could play, with the talent he has, on a contender lacking his attributes.

    He's a no-brainer if he's willing to come.
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    Next week. I forget which of the 37 Sheed threads it was in.
    Is he really coming to SA to visit? Where has this been written? I thought it was stated that Boston, Cleveland, AND San Antonio all met with him today?
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    Thank god the Mavs stepped up with their idioticy and signed Gortat...first they give that ridiculous contract to Dampier, than Diop, and now Gortat.

    Thank You for being an idiot Cuban









    Now get the out there and get us Sheed Pop.
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    Is he really coming to SA to visit? Where has this been written? I thought it was stated that Boston, Cleveland, AND San Antonio all met with him today?
    Ugh. Now I don't remember if it was that Sheed was going to come to SA or meet with SA. But I do remember reading somewhere in one of the sheed threads, maybe even this one, that the Spurs and Sheed were going to meet next week.
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    Is he really coming to SA to visit? Where has this been written? I thought it was stated that Boston, Cleveland, AND San Antonio all met with him today?
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130357

    Boston lead owner Wyc Grousbeck, general manager Danny Ainge, head coach Doc Rivers, Garnett, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce all went to Detroit on Thursday to formally present Wallace with an offer for the full mid-level exception. But they left town without Wallace agreeing to a deal. Wallace will visit San Antonio and Orlando next week, according to a source, before making up his mind. Wallace is not likely to visit Cleveland.

    http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...artest.lakers/
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    Wallace receptive to Celtics' pitch
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    BOSTON -- The Boston Celtics made their pitch to Rasheed Wallace on Thursday. And Wallace was receptive.

    A contingent from the Celtics organization -- including owner Wyc Grousbeck, President Danny Ainge, head coach Doc Rivers and All-Stars Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen -- descended on Wallace's suburban Michigan home on Thursday for a three-hour meeting with the free-agent forward.

    "Solid, thorough, cogent and very impressive," Wallace's agent, Bill Strickland, told SI.com about Boston's recruiting trip. "[They] definitely gave Rasheed and his wife something to think about."

    During the course of the meeting the Celtics offered Wallace a contract using their entire mid-level exception. It is unclear how many years Boston offered Wallace, who will be 35 at the start of next season.

    Multiple league executives believe Wallace is deciding between Boston and San Antonio. Both the Celtics and Spurs can offer Wallace the full mid-level exception ($5.6 million). With Ron Artest agreeing to terms with the Lakers and Trevor Ariza agreeing to a deal with Houston on Thursday, league sources expect Cleveland to make a late push for Wallace's services. Orlando, should they choose not to re-sign restricted free agent Marcin Gortat, is also a possibility.

    However, Boston and San Antonio stand as the strongest candidates. The Celtics can offer Wallace a chance to stay in the Eastern Conference as well as the opportunity to play with Garnett, who is a close friend. San Antonio, which traded forwards Fabricio Oberto and Kurt Thomas last month in the deal for Richard Jefferson, can offer Wallace a starters role. Boston's interest in Wallace is believed to be as a backup.

    Wallace has given no indication as to when he will make a decision.
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    Despite the media hoopla over Boston, I'm inclined to think that we're at an advantage making our pitch second. We know exactly what the Celtics have offered, and we can either choose to match it or exceed it by another year (though I think that 3rd year would be more likely to be a team option or non-fully guaranteed year). Still, despite the discomfort that the "near done deal" media-type reports brings me, in the end I'll be much more comfortable when the Spurs can counter-punch in a day or two.
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