Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, and Paul Pierce joined president of basketball operations Danny Ainge and managing partner Wyc Grousbeck for a three-hour meeting with Wallace in Detroit yesterday, the Celtics offering a contract using their midlevel exception. But Wallace is apparently in no hurry to respond, preferring to weigh approaches from Charlotte, Cleveland, Orlando, and San Antonio, according to an NBA source.
Bill Strickland, Wallace’s agent, said in a text message that it was a “very good meeting; some contractual terms discussed, nothing agreed to.’’
Strickland added Wallace will be “meeting with a few more teams next week.’’
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb...ce_a_contract/
Though Wallace is fielding these pitches relatively early in the free agency process, teams have been warned that he may take some time before making a decision.
“I get the feeling that this is going to take some time,” said one of the sources. “People who make commitments this early sometimes make mistakes.”
http://news.bostonherald.com/sports/...&position=also
Makes me wonder even more what move the Spurs are looking at under the radar. If things drag out with Sheed, by the time he signs with a team the Spurs may simply be looking for cheap depth after making their initial big signing.
I'm hoping his meeting with the Spurs is the final meeting he has, so that he has time to examine each offer, I would be disappointed if he visited us early on, and then days later signed with another team. Hopefully these rumors are true that he will meet with all teams interested before making a decision.
You have to wonder what these sources consider "early" and "late." There are guys who commit on July 1st and 2nd, as we've seen; those are certainly early. But what's late? July 7th? July 14th? I really don't care if he takes until the 7th or 8th to decide, that's his right, and nothing becomes official before then anyway.
This, in my opinion, is the reason he won't be a Spur. If I'm the Spurs, my offer to him ends the same time the meeting with him does. I know it does his ego good to be talked about on PTI and Mike and Mike, but he might as well be restricted if he's going to keep teams hanging out in the wind for a week.“I get the feeling that this is going to take some time,” said one of the sources. “People who make commitments this early sometimes make mistakes.”
check out rasheed @ 0:26
I was too lazy to respond last night but after going back and seeing this again, I felt I had to revisit this...
Never did I make a comparison to Horry and 'Sheed's clutchness, so I guess I just made a good argument.Yeah, agree to disagree.
You make a good argument (except for the comparison to Horry - Big Shot's defining characteristic was his clutchness, while Sheed's is not)
I'd say Tim and Wallace would be a more mobile combo than: Tim/Rasho, Tim/Nazr, and pretty similar to Tim/Horry of Spurs days. I'd also submit that guys like Blair, Mahinmi, and Gist bring the possibility of a versatility on the front line, that we haven't seen in a long time.
If the Spurs are playing a team like the Lakers, (or just about every other le-contender, for that matter) there's absolutely no problem with a Tim/'Sheed tandem.
'Dyess might have a little more spring in his step but fact of the matter is, he's really never been that great of a defender.
He's not bad or anything, he's just not much of a disrupter. And despite some of the listed measurements I've seen posted on this site, he either plays much smaller than he is against size in the post, or he's just undersized in the post. Either way, it's less than ideal.
As for 'Dyess' mid-range game being the equivalent to Sheed's 3-point range, I'm going to have to disagree.
Spacing is spacing, and if you've got a dominant post-player with your next 3 best players all being essentially slashers, having the Horry-like 4 makes a big difference in keeping the lane open to maximize your half-court efficiency.
'Sheed's 3-point range has to be honored and respected, and teams know that. Plus, you've got to take into consideration that Tim, going forward, will not be living in the post; Pop's efforting to keep Timmy fresh and healthy by limiting the pounding he receives throughout the season.
It's not inconceivable that Tim could be playing in a lot of similar areas that 'Dyess would be more comfortable, and in such times a guy like 'Sheed is more capable of going down to the post to play a somewhat interchangeable role with Tim. (Not something I'd expect to see frequently from 'Sheed, but a wrinkle nonetheless)
Like I've said before, 'Dyess isn't a terrible second-option but, to me, there is a significant fall-off from 'Sheed, at least in terms of what this team needs, at this moment in time.
That has GOT to be fake...lol
Sheed is 34, turning 35 first off. He was born September 17, 1974. Yes, it makes a difference.
Second, the fact he has "a lot" of miles works both ways. All that experience could be really good down the stretch. Additionally, Pop is obviously great at micromanaging minutes. If we keep Bonner, we can always be stretching the floor and he could spell Sheed well IMO. I expect TP and RJ to carry a lot of the weight during the season, to keep Manu and Tim fresh. With a guy like Sheed, that's someone else who can contribute to the scoring and not be expected to do a whole lot except play great defense and shoot open shots.
It's just such a different situation than Detroit, different players, different chemistry will be developed, different mindsets completely.
The win-now at ude the FO seems to possess lends me to believe they are going to offer Wallace 3yrs @ the MLE and a starting position to secure his services (if he doesn't retire...?) and just sit back. That's all they need to do. No other team can promise him the unique mix of minutes+starting position, almost guaranteed chemistry, and green light to hoist 3 after 3 without fear of retribution pretty much.
Last edited by z0sa; 07-04-2009 at 02:03 AM.
Rasheed was SO slow last year. That is what makes me wonder.....
Manu choose Rasheed as his top choice if he could choose the Free Agency Big
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?not...7499525&ref=nf
he was asked to choose in between Sheed and Dice...
He said that he hates to play against him but it'd be super fun to have him as a team mate
Good findManu choose Rasheed as his top choice if he could choose the Free Agency Big
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?not...7499525&ref=nf
he was asked to choose in between Sheed and Dice...
He said that he hates to play against him but it'd be super fun to have him as a team mate
I'm assuming this is the section:
So both TP and Manu say they want Sheed on the same day?Se menciona la llegada de un C FA, puede ser Sheed o Mc Dyess, entre otros, con ello TD tendría verdadera ayuda bajo los tableros y podría llegar entero a los playoffs. Si tuvieses que elegir: ¿Sheed, Mc Dyess, Birdman, Powe, Gortat?
A Rasheed. Porque de rival no lo aguanto, pero de compañero sería muy divertido. Cualquier vendría bien, necesitamos algún grande y creo que todos son buenos nombres.
Nice
Right on the money
I have bad news for you timvp.... he said he doesn't think that Bruce is coming back to SA... and also that Fab is a very long shot...
And now Ian has said Sheed.
So both TP and Manu say they want Sheed on the same day?
Nice
3 of them have said it? We got this wrapped up.
Wait a second3 of them have said it? We got this wrapped up.
Duncan just said he doesn't want Sheed
Man I love this team. Wgaf when Gay Allen shows up when you got manu, tp and td wanting you (TD no doubt gave sheed a nice call or text at least)
A 50% Sheed is better than a 100% Rasho, Bonner, or Fabricio any day. Besides I think Sheed is still about 70% as a player.
Guess it'll come down to the Spurs and Bobcats. There's no room for a team with both KG AND WAllace....too combustible. The all-nutty team who won't have two guys together at the same time:
Wallace
Artest
KG
K-Mart
Just missing a guy who can play point....
Iverson
Maybe Rod Strickland would come out of retirement to lead them
there is always Starbury
I thought about him, but he doesn't quite have the "In Your Face At ude" on the court....off the court is a different story.
Rod and Stephon don't have that "Screw Loose" edge that you look for....maybe Nate from the Knicks, but he's more clownish than tough.Maybe Rod Strickland would come out of retirement to lead them
there is always Starbury
Didn't Timmy leave that same big shot Rob open in '03 under very similar cir stances? Only difference was, the ball rimmed out.
Any player who has ever played has some of those mistakes on their record...no matter how good they are.
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