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    Sounds like needless posturing from his agent.

    I hate agents.
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    To be honest, what makes sense is to wait and see how things develop (from a player standpoint). I think it might be a while until we get some news.
    I don't think so. It seems to be between Boston and San Antonio now. Many people are saying the Cleveland and Orlando have interest, but it will come down to the Spurs and Celtics.

    If that's the case, we could hear within the next week what Rasheed's decision is.
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    Could Sheed be our late-Duncan era Horry?

    I can see Tim and Sheed riding off into the sunset together, 3peat in hand

    yeah i'm dreaming a little
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    I don't think so. It seems to be between Boston and San Antonio now. Many people are saying the Cleveland and Orlando have interest, but it will come down to the Spurs and Celtics.

    If that's the case, we could hear within the next week what Rasheed's decision is.
    i agree

    i think sheed knows the teams that are interested and the money they are offering.

    the teams that have considerable cap space arent going to chase after him so he knows the MLE is about what he's going to get.

    i just expect a verbal commitment within in the next couple of days.
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    Boston, Cleveland and perhaps even Dallas are believed to be among the teams queuing up to talk to the soon-to-be 35-year-old center. Each of those teams have the same amount to spend -- the roughly $5.6 million mid-level exception -- so it will probably come down to how the offers are structured over the long term.
    Spurs can certainly offer a fully guaranteed 3 year deal for the MLE if they want. The end of that would coincide with the end of Duncan's extension (and presumably career). At this point I think you do it, unless you could get a McDyess with a much smaller commitment.
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    Could Sheed be our late-Duncan era Horry?

    I can see Tim and Sheed riding off into the sunset together, 3peat in hand

    yeah i'm dreaming a little
    Sheed when motivated is a much better player than Horry...
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    Could Sheed be our late-Duncan era Horry?

    I can see Tim and Sheed riding off into the sunset together, 3peat in hand

    yeah i'm dreaming a little
    that would be amazing!
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    Sheed when motivated is a much better player than Horry...
    much, much, much better. I watched video several years back, when Sheed first was acquired by the Pistons, of him hitting like 10 left handed 3's in a row

    I'm talking that fearless bigman shooter who can also play lockdown D and block shots, who tends to affect the game in different ways than the stat sheet immediately implies.
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    much, much, much better. I watched video several years back, when Sheed first was acquired by the Pistons, of him hitting like 10 left handed 3's in a row

    I'm talking that fearless bigman shooter who can also play lockdown D and block shots, who tends to affect the game in different ways than the stat sheet immediately implies.
    I actually remember him shooting a couple of left-handed 3's in some games. If he does that with the Spurs, he will give Pop a HUGE headache.
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    that would be amazing!

    We got work to do while Tim's still around if we plan on catching LA or Boston at some point in a different era

    ---> all I care about ... for now
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    Spurs can certainly offer a fully guaranteed 3 year deal for the MLE if they want. The end of that would coincide with the end of Duncan's extension (and presumably career). At this point I think you do it, unless you could get a McDyess with a much smaller commitment.
    I disagree MB. I know it is risky committing the money to an older player, but Sheed is far better than McDyess from a Spurs stand point. The match ups, the post presence and shooting...
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    I actually remember him shooting a couple of left-handed 3's in some games. If he does that with the Spurs, he will give Pop a HUGE headache.
    Pop would probobly find it amusing.
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    The capacity of Spurfan for self-delusion never ceases to amaze. I find myself thinking we're going to see one of these guys end up in San Antonio, and then I remember all the other years of free agency.
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    The capacity of Spurfan for self-delusion never ceases to amaze. I find myself thinking we're going to see one of these guys end up in San Antonio, and then I remember all the other years of free agency.
    Why is it delusional? Was RJ delusional? Are the Spurs compe ing with teams offering much more money and a better chance to win? Please explain...
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    The capacity of Spurfan for self-delusion never ceases to amaze. I find myself thinking we're going to see one of these guys end up in San Antonio, and then I remember all the other years of free agency.
    ?

    I don't see how this summer applies to any other, but, I do agree about the foolishness of planning Rasheed into the team already and matchups and so on.
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    I disagree MB. I know it is risky committing the money to an older player, but Sheed is far better than McDyess from a Spurs stand point. The match ups, the post presence and shooting...
    I can see the Spurs giving Wallace a fully guaranteed 3 year offer starting at the full MLE. They don't make the Jefferson deal without expecting to do so, IMO.

    The difference isn't that great between Wallace and McDyess. McDyess' J would give TD the spacing he needs and he rebounds at a better clip.
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    I don't think anyone is counting their chickens yet. But the Spurs have a legit shot at landing him.
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    The capacity of Spurfan for self-delusion never ceases to amaze. I find myself thinking we're going to see one of these guys end up in San Antonio, and then I remember all the other years of free agency.
    We're not in a Maggette situation ... we just got younger, and we're willing to pay Sheed the exact same any other contender will. Not only that, Sheed and Pop have a good relationship, Sheed knows what he would be getting in terms of the organization and the roster class-wise, and he fits a perfect hole on a contending roster - something NO other contender can tell him.

    IMO, Spurs are frontrunners and its not that hard to call.
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    I can see the Spurs giving Wallace a fully guaranteed 3 year offer starting at the full MLE. They don't make the Jefferson deal without expecting to do so, IMO.
    I agree. I just feel that people think that McDyess is almost as good as Sheed for the Spurs and I disagree. Sheed is tier one, everyone else is below that is a FA.

    There are trade possibilities that are better than Sheed, but as far as FA's go...
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    The beauty of Rasheed is that he can operate so much further away from duncan than McDyess...

    McDyess is an upgrade on the rebounding end to KT... and a little better shooter... but he doesn't spread the floor nearly as well as sheed... nor does he present the post to post passing that Sheed does...

    With both Sheed and Timmy to pass to... Manu would go nuts... and Tony's pic and roll game would be ing sick.
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    Rasheed Wallace: First contact


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    Bill Strickland, Wallace's agent, would not confirm this morning that talks had commenced between the Spurs and his client. He did, however, indicate he expected the Spurs to be in the hunt.

    "There's interest, mutual interest, I would say," Strickland said. "I would say the Spurs have a job to do."


    http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...d-wallace.html
    What do you suppose this means from Wallace's agent?: ""I would say the Spurs have a job to do."

    Can anybody decipher that statement?
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    I agree. I just feel that people think that McDyess is almost as good as Sheed for the Spurs and I disagree. Sheed is tier one, everyone else is below that is a FA.

    There are trade possibilities that are better than Sheed, but as far as FA's go...
    I'm scared to death of Sheed. He played like last year. We can assume that was a motivation issue but we don't know that for sure. It could just be natural physical regression. To give a guy who looked like he fell of the cliff last year a new 3 year deal...I think that's a mistake. 2 year limit on the offer, please.

    McDyess and Sheed are comparable in age but watching the two of them play last year, I think McDyess looked like a much more capable player.

    I think Ludden and Simmons openly wondering whether Sheed can even be a shadow of what he was 3 years ago is definitely a legit concern.

    I'm not saying don't go after him...even a decrepit Rasheed is bounds better than what we have now, and we need a veteran, but I think too many people are having visions of Sheed circa 2003 or 2005 or even 2007 when the 08/09 version was a vastly inferior player. I'm not convinced that lack of motivation was the sole reason for this.
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    OK, Let's say Sheed and Dyess go to another team. What is Plan B in your opinion???
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    Why Rasheed Wallace Would Be a Mistake for the Celtics

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    Over on CelticsBlog, we just saw that Danny Ainge showed up on Rasheed Wallace’s doorstep last night at midnight to give Boston’s recruiting pitch to the free agent.

    That pretty much tells you, just like everyone’s been talking about for the past few days, ‘Sheed is Boston’s No. 1 free agent target this offseason. On paper, a lineup of ‘Sheed, KG, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and Rajon Rondo (assuming Boston can’t swing a trade to get him out of town), looks pretty solid. But there are lots of concerns.
    First off, they’re old. Whether it was because ‘Sheed just didn’t care about last season or whatever, by the time the Cavs dismissed the Pistons, he didn’t look like he had much left in the tank. Would a move to Boston rejuvenate him? Maybe. But I wouldn’t be looking for a whole lot out of Wallace beyond just hanging out at the top of the key to jack threes. Another shooter helps them, but it’s not really what they need - another athletic perimeter player who can create his own shot and take some of the scoring burden off of Paul Pierce.
    And how about Rasheed’s on-court antics? Even the most die-hard Detroit fan has to admit that it’s a tired act at this point. Maybe playing with KG, Pierce and Ray will chill him out a bit.
    Overall, I think Boston clearly needs to get younger and faster. Remember when the Celtics’ master plan behind drafting Len Bias was that his youth and athleticism would extend the careers of Larry Bird, Kevin McHale and Robert Parish? Danny Ainge needs to apply that same type of thinking to this Boston team. While there’s probably nobody out there like a Len Bias, there are guys to be had. The San Antonio Spurs just pulled off exactly what I’m talking about with their acquisition of Richard Jefferson. The Spurs moved a few bit pieces for a guy who will keep their championship contender window open a few years long just by being in the mix.
    A move like that makes a ton more sense than paying for a guy who might be done.





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    What do you suppose this means from Wallace's agent?: ""I would say the Spurs have a job to do."

    Can anybody decipher that statement?
    That caught my eye, too. I know better than to overthink things like that, but I wondered if his agent is saying the Spurs need to make a darn good pitch. The Pollyanna in me hopes he was being coy.
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