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    My thing is, how much would McDyess protect Tim (and the rim) on the defensive end? Even when he could jump out of the gym he wasn't really a premier defender.
    what are there, like 4 defenders left in the league?

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    Thats the same info we have had for Davis, but the Spurs seem to have been targeting McDyess so we don't know which one is the priority.

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    what are there, like 4 defenders left in the league?
    According to Hollinger in his player reports, Mcdyess was the one who most often defended the opposing teams best post player. Thus allowing Rasheed to roam around.

    Whether Dyess is a great shot blocker at this stage is not the big deal. The fact that he is a high quality low post defender would be excellent. Having Mcdyess start off on the opposing teams best big would allow Duncan to play more weakside defense.

    IMO I think he would protect Duncan very well. Sheed would have done so as well.

    Dyess/Mahinmi/Blair
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    Tim can still protect the rim almost as good as anybody in the NBA..his 1 on 1 defense is what has declined over the years, at least IMO..McDyess can defend 1 on 1 in the post, so that would be his role defensively..
    Not that Tim can't, but it would be nice to see him receive the same help that Dave got towards the end of his career; less attempts he has to make at shotblocks. McDyess is strong in the post, but facing up defensively may be a question mark.

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    Thats the same info we have had for Davis, but the Spurs seem to have been targeting McDyess so we don't know which one is the priority.
    I realize that but we've heard very little about Dice to Spurs other than there being interest among both parties.

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    what are there, like 4 defenders left in the league?
    Free Agency is exciting, but it can also be a mother.

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    'Dyess has been my second-choice all along, even if I haven't been thrilled of the prospect, but I have just never believed he was going to leave Detroit.

    People like to assume his return to Detroit was solely out of loyalty, but I've always believed it had to do with something more.

    Let's not forget, 'Dyess was ready to retire if he couldn't play in Detroit. He's also the same guy that wanted nothing to do with a starting role because of the success he had coming off the bench.

    What I'm getting at, from what I've heard in the past and from some of the statements/actions he's made in recent years, 'Dyess definitely seems the supers ious-type.

    The guy's finally had an extended stretch of good health and success, and I'm pretty sure it would take pretty much the sales job of a lifetime to get him to leave a comfortable/blessed situation, as I'm sure he views it.

    I don't question that the guy wants a ring and that had he not had the terrible luck with injuries that he'd want to leave Detroit for the Spurs, but I'm not sure he really looks at it that simply.

    I think he tries to look at it from a basketball standpoint and which situation would give him a better shot at a ring, but in his heart of hearts?

    I think he honestly worries about leaving a situation that's allowed him to get his career back, as Detroit has, only to end up having to go through what he did before arriving at Detroit, once again..

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    http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.co...=rss_blogs_NBA


    The Wizards are pursuing Antonio McDyess, but word is he's heading back to the Pistons. A decision from 'Dyess is coming soon, according to a source, and it appears to be between Detroit and San Antonio. Blazers restricted free agent Channing Frye could be a fallback option for Washington. But according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Cavs are the latest team to meet with Frye, who also has drawn interest from Denver, Phoenix, and San Antonio.

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    'Dyess has been my second-choice all along, even if I haven't been thrilled of the prospect, but I have just never believed he was going to leave Detroit.

    People like to assume his return to Detroit was solely out of loyalty, but I've always believed it had to do with something more.

    Let's not forget, 'Dyess was ready to retire if he couldn't play in Detroit. He's also the same guy that wanted nothing to do with a starting role because of the success he had coming off the bench.

    What I'm getting at, from what I've heard in the past and from some of the statements/actions he's made in recent years, 'Dyess definitely seems the supers ious-type.

    The guy's finally had an extended stretch of good health and success, and I'm pretty sure it would take pretty much the sales job of a lifetime to get him to leave a comfortable/blessed situation, as I'm sure he views it.

    I don't question that the guy wants a ring and that had he not had the terrible luck with injuries that he'd want to leave Detroit for the Spurs, but I'm not sure he really looks at it that simply.

    I think he tries to look at it from a basketball standpoint and which situation would give him a better shot at a ring, but in his heart of hearts?

    I think he honestly worries about leaving a situation that's allowed him to get his career back, as Detroit has, only to end up having to go through what he did before arriving at Detroit, once again..
    Possibly. But McDyess is about to be 35 years old. If he really wants a le he has to move now.

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    McDyess will just be the next in a long, long line of free agents leaving the Spurs, every FA's favorite stalking horse, standing at the altar. I'm resigned.

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    Well usually the Spurs are used as leverage, which is why you hear so many rumors..

    McDyess doesn't really have any reason to use us as leverage, since he won't get any more $ out of anybody else, and there doesn't appear to be other contending teams that are looking at him seriously..it pretty much comes down to winning+$$$ vs. loyalty..

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    Yep i agree with blackjack-he either stay in detroit or hopefully we give him an offer he can't refuse. We need Dice badly-or a player on that level-and he's bout the only one out there we can get

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    would demoting op to defenses coordinator and hiring AJ as our coach increase our chance of getting dice. IF so do it now.

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    I've never seen this much pining for an 8 point/6 rebound guy in my life.

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    I've never seen this much pining for an 8 point/6 rebound guy in my life.

    Have you watched the spurs since DR retired? That's why there's this much "pining". All of us-or most of us-on here realize that the other big man helping TD has been the last 5 years. Wanting dice is completely legit, if you watch him you know he's a smart player and will help TD on the boards. We for once need a guy who can honestly help td, instead of stand there and act like a .

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    McDyess put up 13 PPG and 8.5 RPG on 52% shooting in the playoffs, against the team that had the best record in the entire NBA..that's part of what we're looking at, not "8 and 6"..

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    Have you watched the spurs since DR retired? That's why there's this much "pining". All of us-or most of us-on here realize that the other big man helping TD has been the last 5 years. Wanting dice is completely legit, if you watch him you know he's a smart player and will help TD on the boards. We for once need a guy who can honestly help td, instead of stand there and act like a .

    Who's DR?

    Seriously though, if you're one of these people who think McDyess is the answer then you must have seen more from his 8 points/6 boards and half a block a game than I did. Is McDyess that big of an upgrade from, say, Kurt Thomas?

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    McDyess put up 13 PPG and 8.5 RPG on 52% shooting in the playoffs, against the team that had the best record in the entire NBA..that's part of what we're looking at, not "8 and 6"..
    So McDyess is more mobile and athletic than Zydrunas Ilgauskas? Wow, I had no idea.

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    Who's DR?

    Seriously though, if you're one of these people who think McDyess is the answer then you must have seen more from his 8 points/6 boards and half a block a game than I did. Is McDyess that big of an upgrade from, say, Kurt Thomas?
    @ who's DR

    McDyess averaged 10/10 and shot 50+% this past season.

    Who do you want for the MLE?

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    Seriously though, if you're one of these people who think McDyess is the answer then you must have seen more from his 8 points/6 boards and half a block a game than I did. Is McDyess that big of an upgrade from, say, Kurt Thomas?
    Where are you getting the 8 and 6 numbers? Last season he was close to 10, 10 and 1.

    And yes, McDyess is potentially a big upgrade from Thomas. He's more mobile, stays in better shape, is maniacal about winning and is the best jumpshooting bigman in the game percentage-wise outside of Dirk.

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    C'mon, I was kidding about "Who's DR"...it was only fitting to mock right back after I'd been mocked.

    I don't think it's necessary to spend the entire MLE just because you can. I don't like Glen Davis for the MLE any more than I like McDyess for the MLE, and I hope the Spurs don't overpay for anyone now that Wallace is off the table.

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    If the Spurs lose out on McDyess, they need to package Bonner, Finley and Splitter's rights for a real big man.

    It sickens me to think of Tim Duncan wasting the twilight of his career playing next to Jackie Moon.

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    C'mon, I was kidding about "Who's DR"...it was only fitting to mock right back after I'd been mocked.

    I don't think it's necessary to spend the entire MLE just because you can. I don't like Glen Davis for the MLE any more than I like McDyess for the MLE, and I hope the Spurs don't overpay for anyone now that Wallace is off the table.
    So would you have been okay paying Rasheed (who averaged 12/7/1) the MLE, but not McDyess (who averaged 10/10 in less minutes)?

    To me, if you are willing to pay one of them, you should be willing to pay the other. They are both old vets who can contribute. I just don't understand the people that think Dice is a huge huge drop off from Rasheed (and the others who think the other way around).

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    Any chance we can still steal Gortat away (Toronto-style)?

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    Gawd, what a newb.

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