Free Agent: Antonio McDyess

[scottspurs]

Yeah, I think that's good news. AJ would have been a "win now" coach and Detroit would look a lot more like a championship contender.

Now we have to hope that Detroit targets some no name assistant coach. It seems like McDyess didn't like Curry last season so it's doubtful that he'll want to go through another season with a coach who may or may not know what he's doing.

Coach Bud?

[Blackjack]

we all assume the Spurs are currently focusing on McDyess, but I'm not 100% sure the plan A to bring in the missing big isn't still a trade.
the signing of Haislip for reportedly the LLE has pushed the Spurs over the threshold and adding 3 minimum contracts (Blair, Gist, McClinton?) will get them to +2-3 million over the threshold.
so signing McDyess for the MLE will cost them as much as 11 million per.
ok, we learned that they are willing to pay tax this year, but this are still the Spurs and it also doesn't take a rockets scientist to figure out that a trade of Bonner and Finley (or Mason) for a quality big might be cheaper AND might result in a better roster overall.
if the Spurs sign McDyess and with the addition of Haislip (and also Blair), Bonner will turn into dead meat. and it also might me more effective to get rid of Finley and therefore sign Bruce (to keep a "system" veteran guy).
I'm also pretty sure the signing of Haislip wasn't without intention to make Bonner even more expendable.

I think it's easy to get locked in on the free-agents available and assume that's how the Spurs will fill their needs, but I agree with your cap assessment, and the fact that Bonner seems to be losing favor by the day.

I'm sure McDyess would be a welcome addition for the Spurs but I'm also pretty sure this is Peter Holt; not Peter Schneider Steinbrenner.

Packaging the likes of Bonner, Finley, and/or Mason might net the Spurs a player that fills more of a need in taking defensive pressure off of Tim, and get's the teams luxury-cap to a much more reasonable number.

I doubt it would be Camby with the move of Randolph but I assume they've got a less sexy name targeted.

Of course, their offer might not be good enough for what they want, so they might end up with 'Dyess and be just fine with that. They could also end up making a reach and paying a little more for a lesser free-agent, feeling they have to gamble a bit on someone who has the potential to help win in the short-term. Maybe someone like Bass who's only 24 and has shown some potential and a bit more of a ceiling. Maybe he's a guy, although deemed with plenty of flaws, is poised for one of those breakout/breakthrough years?

Bass, or someone of that ilk, would ideally be plan C or D at this point, but 'Dyess could very well be only plan B..
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Having said all that, with the Pistons looking like they might not get Avery or someone that's proven in the league, combined with the peceived interest Detroit has in a long-term prospect like Bass, 'Dyess just might have an easier decision to leave..

[timvp]

Using those figures and using the current salary cap, that would give the Pistons over $5.1 million left to use on another free agent. Even if you took the high salaries that have been reported for both Gordon and Villanueva, the Pistons would still have around $4.4 million in cap space left if the Salary cap is at least as high as it was last season.

http://blog.mlive.com/fullcourtpress...t_mcdyess.html

Relatively interesting breakdown of how much the Pistons could have to sign McDyess. I guess we should hope that salary cap comes in low so that they don't have as much.

[Bruno]

Blair, Bonner and Haislip are PF strictly. McDyess is way more a PF than a C.

Spurs will have at the C spot, Duncan and Mahinmi. Mahinmi is a huge question mark and could end up as a bust.

So even if Spurs get McDyess, I can see them making a trade to get a center with Bonner being likely traded.

[Bruno]

Relatively interesting breakdown of how much the Pistons could have to sign McDyess. I guess we should hope that salary cap comes in low so that they don't have as much.

I think that their numbers are wrong. Oberto cost $1.9M against the cap and Maxiell salary is $5M. They have also forgotten to add a roster charge of about $450K.
If CV signs for $40M and Gordon for $55M, Detroit team salary will be $55.6M.

[DPG21920]

Makes sense, we will just have to see. Nothing, including trades, will happen until at least the 8th though. I guess depending on who they snag during FA will dictate how long they wait to pursue a trade.

If they get a McDyess, it gives them some more time to evaluate Ian and such and they can wait until the deadline to make a trade. If they get another ?, they will probably look to trade sooner.

[z0sa]

Blair, Bonner and Haislip are PF strictly. McDyess is way more a PF than a C.

Spurs will have at the C spot, Duncan and Mahinmi. Mahinmi is a huge question mark and could end up as a bust.

So even if Spurs get McDyess, I can see them making a trade to get a center with Bonner being likely traded.

It's too bad for Bonner we are severely lacking at C.

[Spursmania]

AJ not going to Detroit may have have just sealed McDyess to SA, hopefully!

Hopefully, the little General has helped us out.

[Brazil]

Blair, Bonner and Haislip are PF strictly. McDyess is way more a PF than a C.

Spurs will have at the C spot, Duncan and Mahinmi. Mahinmi is a huge question mark and could end up as a bust.

So even if Spurs get McDyess, I can see them making a trade to get a center with Bonner being likely traded.

every time I'm seeing Bruno posting I jump on the thread to check if he has a first hand info For my mental health Spurs FO must put an end to this torture

[scottspurs]

Blair, Bonner and Haislip are PF strictly. McDyess is way more a PF than a C.

Spurs will have at the C spot, Duncan and Mahinmi. Mahinmi is a huge question mark and could end up as a bust.

So even if Spurs get McDyess, I can see them making a trade to get a center with Bonner being likely traded.

I think the FO is going to gamble and give Ian a try. I don't think they want to completely fill the C position, unless it's for one year. I believe that would jeopardize Splitter coming over next year. Thats if the FO is confident he will come over, but it is nice to have the Finley, Mason, Bonner, and Rookie contract trade assets at our disposal.

[Bruno]

every time I'm seeing Bruno posting I jump on the thread to check if he has a first hand info For my mental health Spurs FO must put an end to this torture

Sorry to disappoint you.

[Blackjack]

Blair, Bonner and Haislip are PF strictly. McDyess is way more a PF than a C.

Spurs will have at the C spot, Duncan and Mahinmi. Mahinmi is a huge question mark and could end up as a bust.

So even if Spurs get McDyess, I can see them making a trade to get a center with Bonner being likely traded.

I agree, but they may have a targeted a 4/5 that they feel is a higher priority. Adding another 4-type on the cheap, if they deem necessary, would probably be much easier to do.

I'm actually starting to think 'Dyess just might come to S.A., in part because I've just never believed he would, but I'm just wondering how exactly the Spurs will make a trade (which I feel they'll do one way or another) to massage the cap to a more reasonable number,

[mountainballer]

I doubt it would be Camby with the move of Randolph but I assume they've got a less sexy name targeted.

yeah, I also thought Camby, but you are right, currently the Clippers have less reason to trade him to us, than at deadline when the trade failed.
Foster would be such a less sexy name, but still a good idea. (ignoring that he likely isn't even on the block and it would also take the addition of some teaser like George Hill.........hm, maybe not that bad an idea to trade a guy from Indianapolis to the Pacers and get back a guy from San Antonio for the Spurs...just saying)

I wonder why Pachulia isn't mentioned at all. if Spurs focus on a pure Center, he might be the best left. Spurs tried to get this kind of big bangers and space eaters in the past (Przybilla). reportedly the Hawks have offered him a contract, but no word about how much. he is looking for MLE.

[Brazil]

Sorry to disappoint you.

From now on post only if you have a scoop please.

Thanks in advance

[timvp]

Dumars told the Detroit News: "Where we are right now as a team is kind of like where we were at the start of the Rick Carlisle era. And a $4 [million] to $5 million [per year] coach is not what we need right now. We didn't have one of those until we were close to contending for a championship when we got Larry [Brown]."

Come on, Dice, Dumars just admitted the Pistons aren't a championship contender. They are going to go with another rookie coach after not being able to land AJ. You don't want to be in a rebuilding project. Come to San Antonio.

[tp2021]

Come on, Dice, Dumars just admitted the Pistons aren't a championship contender. They are going to go with another rookie coach after not being able to land AJ. You don't want to be in a rebuilding project. Come to San Antonio.

It's almost like Joe is telling Dice to get his ring elsewhere. He is being a man and setting his loyal player free.

[DBMethos]

I want something to happen, soon! My work productivity has gone down the toilet these last 2 weeks!

[timvp]

As far as I can tell, Kuester has never coached McDyess.

Going with a rookie coach with no connection to McDyess is great news for the Spurs' chances of land him. I was pretty damn sure McDyess was going to re-sign with the Pistons but now that the Pistons seem to be bringing in a rookie coach who is being told to work with the offense and the young players, the Spurs' chances got a lot better.

I would say that the chances of landing McDyess went from about 20% to 40% following this news. (Assuming the Spurs are interested and offering the MLE for two years.)

[picnroll]

Why in the world would Dumars even ask McDyess back if he cared at all about him.

"Antonio you've been a good soldier so would you come babbysit a few kids for a couple of years for a few million less than you could make somewhere else where, by the way, maybe you could finally get a ring?"

[buttsR4rebounding]

I want something to happen, soon! My work productivity has gone down the toilet these last 2 weeks!

That's okay if you are a plumber...

[DPG21920]

I guess the question for McDyess is can he handle the role the Spurs need him in? He did not want to start in Detroit and he would be asked to play a major role in SA.

[completely deck]

Bruno, timvp.. Give me a percentage of McDyess wearing a Spurs uniform at the start of the season.

[hater]

Obviously Detroit is not even close to be a contender next season. I don't think it takes Dumars to say that or get a young coach for Dice to realize this.

I think Dice has made up his mind. Nothing that happens between now and tomorrow will change his mind. I say 50% chance to stay in Detroit, 50% to go to another team probably Spurs

[Brazil]

As far as I can tell, Kuester has never coached McDyess.

Going with a rookie coach with no connection to McDyess is great news for the Spurs' chances of land him. I was pretty damn sure McDyess was going to re-sign with the Pistons but now that the Pistons seem to be bringing in a rookie coach who is being told to work with the offense and the young players, the Spurs' chances got a lot better.

I would say that the chances of landing McDyess went from about 20% to 40% following this news. (Assuming the Spurs are interested and offering the MLE for two years.)

[timvp]

Why in the world would Dumars even ask McDyess back if he cared at all about him.

That was my thought after this turn of events. What good would McDyess even do in Detroit at this point? They are rebuilding around their offensive youngsters and they aren't even contemplating a championship. If you are Dumars, I don't even see the point of using your remaining cap room on McDyess.

If McDyess still ends up staying, loyalty would have trumped everything else and the Spurs had no shot to begin with. If the Pistons signing a young power forward, going with a rookie coach, going with an offensive coach and Dumars admitting that the team isn't a championship contender can't convince McDyess to leave, he was never going to leave in the first place.