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    A nice little primer/summary, thx.

    Liking DET as a DDR Lansing spot with most intriguing packages being either around Dembouya or Kennard+1st. Depends what spurs value higher.

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    It seems like the current market won't give up a first round pick unless it's part of big package for an elite player (Leonard, George, Davis) or for an NBA starter + unloading a bad contract. Lowe suggests that Kevin Love could command a first, which surprises me. I'm very skeptical. His contract is so bad, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs would have to attach an asset. But if Lowe is correct, it would mean Aldridge should command a first. I'd be content and not surprised if the best the market will provide for Aldridge or DDR is a young player and a second round pick.

    I doubt the Spurs make any moves, even though they obviously should. If they do, I'm as intrigued to see what they get back as I am to see who they get back.

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    Leaving here. Can’t get behind the pay wall for the full article but apparently Hollinger muses about DDR going back to TOR.

    https://theathletic.com/1458274/2019...-trade-market/

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    Leaving here. Can’t get behind the pay wall for the full article but apparently Hollinger muses about DDR going back to TOR.

    https://theathletic.com/1458274/2019...-trade-market/
    He does the same thing on his latest podcast with Nate Duncan--their Western Conference Mailbag episode. There he says DDR doesn't have much trade value, doesn't see more than a few teams who'd have interest, and speculates Magic might not give up more than expiring contracts.

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    I fear the Spurs will go 7-3ish over their next 10 (SoS says 3-7 is more likely) and they completely punt on any effort at trading their vets and instead seek to add some other team's vet throwaway.

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    I fear the Spurs will go 7-3ish over their next 10 (SoS says 3-7 is more likely) and they completely punt on any effort at trading their vets and instead seek to add some other team's vet throwaway.
    I could see that happening. I doubt we trade for someone's vet-throw away though. We might pick up a waived or bought out vet though.

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    I fear the Spurs will go 7-3ish over their next 10 (SoS says 3-7 is more likely) and they completely punt on any effort at trading their vets and instead seek to add some other team's vet throwaway.
    Haha! No way! Spurms are sub-.500 with one of the easiest schedules to date. Have you seen their next 10 opponents? And you think they will win at a .700 clip?!?! No.

    But ultimately, I don’t think their record over the next 10 games will have any impact on Pop’s thinking. He likes what he’s got, and he’s staying pat.

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    We’d have to cough up a pick to make that enticing for them

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    If we had a reasonable assurance of re-signing him, I'd prefer Bogdanovic to Gordon and, with those assurances, would be willing to put a protected first into the deal. Something like this:
    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=t7mvmvw

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    FWIW: I'd be willing to trade our 2020 first for Zach Lavine too. It seems like his situation in Chicago is now stable, but if not...I know he's not without his limitations, but he'd be a major upgrade over Forbes.

    In my view, the Spurs need three roster upgrades a) a real 3 and D forward, b) another stretch big and c) either an upgrade (over Forbes) at starting shooting guard or a good reserve point guard who would allow White to start next to Murray. Starting Walker with Aldridge and DDR relegates him to standing around in the corner. It's a waste. Better to leave him on the bench or move him into starting lineup after moving/losing DDR. If DDR and/or Aldridge remain through next year, the Spurs still need all the upgrades listed above.

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    FWIW: I'd be willing to trade our 2020 first for Zach Lavine too. It seems like his situation in Chicago is now stable, but if not...I know he's not without his limitations, but he'd be a major upgrade over Forbes.

    In my view, the Spurs need three roster upgrades a) a real 3 and D forward, b) another stretch big and c) either an upgrade (over Forbes) at starting shooting guard or a good reserve point guard who would allow White to start next to Murray. Starting Walker with Aldridge and DDR relegates him to standing around in the corner. It's a waste. Better to leave him on the bench or move him into starting lineup after moving/losing DDR. If DDR and/or Aldridge remain through next year, the Spurs still need all the upgrades listed above.
    I pretty much agree with that.

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    Hard pass on Lavine. I agreed with one commentator (Lowe, Simmons?) who called him perimeter Damarcus Cousins. Big numbers on bad team, doesn’t play winning basketball, and brings locker issues.

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    If that is the intel on Lavine, I'd pass too. Limited options at shooting guard. Joe Harris, Bullock, Fournier, Powell, Beasely, Wiggins, and Bogdanovic. Relative to talent, most of these guys are some kind upgrade over Forbes, but in terms of acquisition costs and ongoing cap ramifications, I'd say only Harris and Bogdanovic are worth an asset, and carefully protected at that because of their contract status. Better to just hold the pick.

    I'd be fine with White as a starter, but the team would have to find a quality reserve point. Terry Rozier and Spencer Dinwiddie make all kinds of sense, but with White's extension and Murray's contract, that's too much money to tie up in the backcourt. Goran Dragic would be ideal, but I can't see Miami trading Dragic unless it involved a package for DeRozan or Aldridge back. If Winslow were healthy, Dragic and Winslow, would offset some of DeRozan's loss because of how it would liberate the rotations to maximize White and Walker. Dragic, medically-cleared Winslow, and a second for DeRozan and Forbes?

    Belinelli and Carroll for Cory Joseph?

    Better to just find someone cheap in free agency or bring in a vet to compete with Weatherspoon next training camp.

    Whenever I run these exercises, I talk myself out of trade ideas more often than I talk myself into them.
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