Would be all over that.
I agree the 11M is a hard sell. What I am saying that we're likely only moving RJ for an equally "bad" contract and that the following factors may help mitigate that 11M cost:
(1) By that points its an expiring contract that Bucks can package
(2) SJax is not happy about being in Milwaukee
(3) A 2nd pick adds some some value (next year's draft is projected good)
(4) If Spurs can include Dice, you front load savings on some of that 11M in a year where there is cap uncertainty.
So you are suggesting that the Spurs take back Gooden in the trade?
Ideally no, but obviously if we include Dice we have to take something back. The thing to watch for is what the Bucks do with Redd. If they resign him, that may put Defino's 3.5M contract in play.
Dice+RJ+2nd round pick for Jax+Defino works: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine. Bucks immediately shed Defino's 3.5M and save $$ on Dice's partially guaranteed deal. What's the net saving, roughly 1.5M this year?
The other thing to watch for is how obnoxious SJax is going to be about the trade to the Bucks. If he's going to be a punk, then the value from some sort of pick, in addition to the front loaded savings discussed above, may work. Don't underestimate the front-loaded savings with the prospect of a hard cap.
Last edited by CGD; 06-24-2011 at 11:50 PM.
Delfino's contract is for 3.5M, only 500K of which is guaranteed. If they wanted to save money on his contract, they would just cut him. If you include Dice in the deal to create cost savings for the Bucks, it means taking Gooden's awful contract back.
It's entirely possible that Jackson forces the Bucks to trade him, much as he forced the Warriors. It's much less likely that RJ would be the best offer they could get for him.
gooden was the only player that showed up for them last season, dunno why they thinkn of trading or dumpin his contract
jax + delfino but i prefer at leasts a big to be included....
Good catch, didn't realize Delfino was partial-guaranteed but see it now. Hmm... Since it's about taking something back to make a work, we could accept Dooling's 2.2M expiring instead (deal works). Bucks still save some cash this year (about 500K) from the net difference.
I agree that it may not be the best offer they receive for Jax, but don't think Jax would command to much more either...
Last edited by CGD; 06-25-2011 at 12:27 AM.
It's been posted that the Spurs talked to quite a few teams about trading TP before the draft. Part of the conversation from Buford was that they would entertain any offer as long as the offer included RJ being part of the package.
As you can see, both TP and RJ are still Spurs. Noone wants RJ and his $30 mil over the next 3 years - no matter who you package w/ him.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=6fmc4oe
Spurs
C Duncan
PF Odom
SF Leonard or F/A SF
SG Manu
PG Davis
Parker to the Lakers.
Jefferson and Walton can be happy together in cleveland lol
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=6yjfbjq
Duncan
Odom
Ariza
Manu
Harris
Someone needs to stop playing with the Trade Machine..
Yes sir big boss man
It's a widely known fact the spurs are actively shopping Jefferson and your precious Tony Parker included. Anything could go down any day now.
you realise that trade involves a straight up swap of Richard Jefferson for Devin Harris?...
, maybe ESPN will shut that down when the season goes away, lets hope at least...
, Tp's not going anywhere..
yeah i do. they may need a SF if AK47 doesnt resign
And seriously. The Luke Walton and RJ thing i put in to cleveland. That was a joke. Surely you knew that. The happy couple cloud thrive in the same team and locker room lol
Dont be in denial to long.They put him out there for bait. Its a matter of time before some other team bites.
You're really reaching now.
They have Hayward, Miles, and Evans to cover the SF position. There's just no way that they trade their only legit PG to add 30 million dollars of RJ to a position that they already have well-manned.
never heard of those clowns so i dont know if they are any good? if they are then no they wouldnt want to do that trade. i thought theyd have nothing at SF if AK47 left. My bad
San Antonio get
Devin Harris
Tyrus Thomas
Antawn Jamison
Utah get
Baron Davs to offset losing Harris
Bobcats get
Bonner McDyess and Raja Bell
Cleveland get
Parker Jefferson, Najera
Trade machines link failed on me but that sums it up
Leaves us with
C: Tim Duncan
PF: Tyrus Thomas
SF: Antawn Jamison
SG: Manu Ginobili
PG: Devin Harris
yeah
Spurs do that trade, Cleveland thinks about it, and Utah is laughing so hard that they forget to hang up the phone. The only thing funnier than BDavis in Cleveland is BDavis in Salt Lake City.
Last edited by Mel_13; 06-25-2011 at 02:03 PM.
are you a Lakers fan in Spurs clothing?
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