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This ain't even close to being over.
One woman's death
I'm gonna call BS. No way the regime would be that bipolar in regards to letting protesters gather.
This ain't even close to being over.
One woman's death
They can't be everywhere at once dude. I don't know for sure of course, but I'm fairly certain he wouldn't have claimed it as legit without good reason.
True, the mourning schedule is tailor-made for the opposition to regroup.
They can't be everywhere at once... but that procession looks over a mile long. They'd have to gather... then march. All that is completely obvious and wouldn't be hard to pick up. Unless it was some sort of Forest Gump thing where people just came out and joined as it was already going.
Here's me being a cynic asshole: There's no green and hardly any black in that crowd. That alone makes me su ious. I don't wanna say it was dubbed over or that it's propaganda to make people get a false sense of security and go out just to be beaten.
I don't know what to think but it just doesn't feel right.
Read the Time article. The mourners will be back out in a 3, 7,and 40 day schedule after the deaths. Hence the lack of green.
Anyone here ever watch Fareed Zakaria GPS at noon on CNN sundays? It's a great foreign issue show, and its insane how many high profile guests he has....I'm watching today's episode and he said this one Iranian journalist that has been on his show a few times has been arrested and noones heard from him for days. He almost started crying on the show.
Today he has freakin Zbigniew Brzeznski as a guest giving his take on the Iran situation.
Wrong about what exactly? That they don't have the needed numbers? Or that it will be squashed soon? I had more than one claim before CBF's meltdown . . .
If that was a meltdown then michael finley is a team asset. lol why do you keep tryin to spin this on me
I only think you were wrong about saying this would be a side media blurb were it not for twitter.
I was watching it right now. I dont' remember the names, but he had two Iranian dudes with green ties on as well lol
Well I think if there are enough numbers then it won't get squashed. It seems as though the government has pulled back somewhat today. I guess we'll find out if strikes form up this week.Wrong about what exactly? That they don't have the needed numbers? Or that it will be squashed soon? I had more than one claim before CBF's meltdown . . .
The internet lockdown alone is going to hurt Iran's economy, which is good in the long run for reformists. If they can grind the country to a halt with strikes then they will absolutely succeed. Early yesterday I thought they'd be smashed soon, but the longer this plays out the more I start to believe they have a realistic chance to pull things out. I still think the odds are not favorable, but they are better than I first gave them credit for.
I really wonder how many people in Iran are aware of the Neda videos and situation. Its obviously reverberated strongly with everyone here, but is LJ right or do they actually know about her in Iran?
Article about her:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129112
The guys on CNN are struggling to keep their composure.
lol yeah. Americans in general aren't very desensitized to the realities of this world.
This is as good a time as any to reflect on the freedoms you take for granted in the US, as well as those SpursTalkers in other liberal democracies.
No . I went to a pool party yesterday and could not help but have what was going on in Iran in the back of my mind the entire time...knowing people were getting shot by their government while I was sitting back enjoying an otherwise beautiful day.
There's so many possibilities as to what could happen at this point.
Even if Mousavi gets his new election and even if he wins... the schism which has formed between him and the Ayatollah is deep. I think the Ayatollah has to be replaced and Mousavi has to be president in order for this to calm down... but if that happens than you'll have the exact same thing happen with the hardliners that are happening with the reformers now... they'll riot.
This is an incredibly volatile situation and the dynamics are really unprecedented. Concessions by the regime are gonna have to be made at some point... especially if this continues and hinders the economy further.... what they are is hard to determine.
This scenario could happen, but very highly unlikely and everything will take a turn (IMO for the worse) if they opt to use this route:
Removing the supreme leader and having a re-vote sounds like it work, but I think the repercussions of making such drastic changes would divide Iran up and create more turmoil in the streets if such hard action like this were to occur.Rafsanjani heads the cleric-run Assembly of Experts, which can remove the supreme leader, the country's most powerful figure. He also chairs the Expediency Council, a body that arbitrates disputes between parliament and the unelected Guardian Council.
Last edited by E20; 06-21-2009 at 08:53 PM.
How ing old have I gotten when E20 is now posting in the political forum?
and every time he posts in the club now its to solve someone's chemistry problem or calculus equation
Yeah, that's exactly what I thought when I watched that video of the girl getting shot. I didn't real feel sad because innocent people get killed by their government every minute of everyday ... but I did feel the "Damn I'm lucky" emotion.
No kidding. When E20 first started posting, his threads were about not making it to the bathroom on time and his fifth grade teacher sending him home from school early as a result.
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