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too early to tell. this is one of those hit or miss moves imo. we'll just have to wait and see. i wouldnt be surprised either way.
Yeah, then why the did the Fakers sign them? Do you people in La La Land understand Logic? Common Sense? How to think things out? All any Faker fan could talk about was how you had the Second coming of the Olympic Dream Team and would roll over everyone in the playoffs by 44 points per game. Seems the Detroit Pistons had other plans! Seems it also took the Spurs the following season to show you Fakers how to beat teams from the East.
BTW if you now sign Odom there will be trouble in Never Never Land for the Fakers, as gigantic ego's will clash like it was WW III. Anyway, good f*ing luck trying to repeat.
too early to tell. this is one of those hit or miss moves imo. we'll just have to wait and see. i wouldnt be surprised either way.
That's exactly the same thing the Laker trolls said when Karl Malone and Gary Payton signed. How did that work out for you?
There's no guarantees in the league, either. Two weeks into the season, Gasol tears an MCL and Kobe finds out that white girl in Colorado is HIV positive, and the Lakers won't even make the playoffs. Not that I would wish that on such nice guys. Just saying.
Artest was horrible against the Lakers in the PO. As short-handed as they already were, they did better when he wasn't on the floor. He has no sense of pace or movement on offense. He just kept clanging jumpers. It was embarrassing. Contrast that with Ariza who was actually effective on defense and hit huge, timely shots consistently.
This is a step backwards. When has Artest really made a team better? He's going to kill any flow in the triangle.
He's a tough matchup one on one, but if the Lakers want to run the offense through Artest against us, INSTEAD of through Kobe, then I think I can live with those odds every single time.
He amuses me, but he's a wingnut. As someone else wrote, he and Odom together is bad chemistry and the combination of those two will drive PJ to drink.
Actually Artest played well against the Lakers when Yao was there. He was basically the reason they won game 1. When Yao got hurt, Artest was forced to be a ballhandling number 1 option which is not his game at all. He doesn't have to worry about that in LA.
Oh did LA find that PG they need?
Before you get your panties in a bunch, yes I know Artest won't be the #1 ballhandler. I'm joking because LA has ty PGs.
Scoring on Lakers shouldn't be too hard with Parker running around everyone now.
Yeah...I forgot how dumb Odom can be from time to time. It's amazing how similar he and Artest are in all the good and bad ways.
My prediction is this....the Lakers will be inconsistent as ever. Some nights they will be an unstoppable force and other nights they will suc b to the collective IQ of Artest and Odom. The big question is can they be just consistent enough to make it through a playoff run. I have my doubts.
They broke even at best (Lakers). I think Artest's defense is overrated. Ariza is up and coming and Artest is the opposite. So at best the defense is an even trade. And then we look at the offense and i'm sorry Ron takes the stupidest shots in the world.
The first sign of adversity i'm interested to see how Artest holds up along side Kobe. A couple of big egos out there. Could be a meltdown waiting to happen.
The foursome of Pierce, Allen, Garnet, and Rondo was more taleted than the Lakers foursome. And if the Celtics add Wallace then they are still the most talented team. If the Spurs add Wallace they become the most talented team which would be the first time since 1994-95.
Have a look at their shooting percentages vs Ron Artest this past year. All were well below their averages.
LeBron - 40% shooting
Melo - 40% shooting
Paul Pierce - 41% shooting
Ron's an elite defender against over-sized Small Forwards and Shooting Guards.
It's no secret, just ask some Cav fans who gives LeBron the most problems...Ron Artest.
Brrruuuuuuuccccccceeeeeeeee
Yea, those players don't move fast. He can't guard 2s like Kobe or Roy thotugh, they are too fast for him
Like I said, "I have some wonderful swamp land in the Mojave Desert and a nice bridge, some people know as The Brooklyn Bridge I will let you have for cheap. And for 10% more, I'll throw in The Trump Towers so you'll have a place to stay when visiting your swamp out in the middle of the desert".
We'll see in a few months. Of all the moves so far in Free Agency, this one is the one I like best because it weakens the Lakers in many ways. Kobe, Odom & Artest...a revisit of the Atomic Bomb and the result ain't good. Your team finally showed some team chemistry vs. Denver and Orlando. That appears to be a thing of the past. And with an aging and slow Fisher I definitely do not see any repeat.
At the present time you have Orlando, Boston & Cleveland in the East and the Lakers, Spurs and Nuggets in the West. Everyone else is just fodder for the strong. It should be a pretty interesting May & June in 2010.
are you guys crazy?
This makes LA even better. Artest shows up against the Spurs.
Who is he guarding? He's too slow to stay in front of Jefferson and a healthy Manu. Put him on Blair!!!
I don't like the acquisition for the Lakers but I'm not going to condemn it, either.
After seeing both Antoine Walker and Jason Williams get rings, I'll never say never again.
I will say this, though.
Artest is not Rodman, nor should Phil's ability to coach Rodman be equivocated to him coaching Artest.
Rodman was a highly intelligent ball player who knew his limitations on the court, and what attributes of his game were needed in order to win.
Artest is a specimen with an abundance of tools and ability, but lacks the know-how to utilize them for the best of the team, because of a belief that he's better than what he is. He doesn't know his limitations or how to sacrifice certain aspects of his game to focus on less glorified attributes that would actually contribute more to his team's overall success..
I'm not sure if Ariza could've been had for something just over the MLE but if he could've, I'm not sure why you fix something that's not broke.
As of right now, and as a Spurs fan, I don't mind this move at all.
But I reserve the right to change my mind...
Artest can also guard guys like Dirk though. He won't have to defend quick 2's, that's what Kobe is for.
Lebron, Pierce, Melo are all guys the Lakers could see late in the playoffs.
funny to see how spurs fans are saying this is a disaster after criticizing laker fans for saying jefferson was not very good. cant have it both ways. both are amazing signings. but we are the champs so we get even better
Meh. I don't know if this makes the lakers better or not, but I do know that the Ron Artest experiment has yet to work anywhere.
Not when you lose the only player that was effective at guarding Tony Parker. Again, who would Artest guard on the Spurs? You think he's quick enough to guard Jefferson or Manu? I don't see it.
Artest will force up dumb 3's, and has lost a step just like Bowen did. He wont play into the system. Ariza was the perfect fit for lakers.
At the present time you have Orlando, Boston & Cleveland in the East and the Lakers, Spurs and Nuggets in the West. Everyone else is just fodder for the strong. It should be a pretty interesting May & June in 2010.[/QUOTE]
Most people put the Blazers in that group too. All of their talent will be a year older net year and they will probably be even more loaded. They are the only team in the WC that has the heighth to match up with the Lakers. the Blazers are tall across the roster.
Discount from guys who tried to work at Best Buy to get their discounts. You just got a certified nutjob. Good luck with him.
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