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    I've seen Haislip play dozens of times in the last few years, some of them in the arena. He's a good 4th big if you surround him with good rebounders and defenders, play some full-court offence to keep him going (he's amazingly quick changing ends, although notoriously slower running back) and know how to use him for spacing purposes in half-court sets. When he's playing with confidence, he's a very versatile and dynamic offensive player: he'll get shots in transition, he'll create off the bounce from the high post, he'll play the pick'n'pop perfectly, he'll cut through the lane from the weakside. Good signing for the minimum. As I said, think a poor man's David West or an athletic Glen Davis without the hustle or the focus.

    Haislip was easily a top-10 PF in Europe if you analyze them from a NBA perspective. Very, very easily.
    You are a ing dumb ass. I listed all the Euroleague PFs better than him. Now you explain to me how he can be better than ANY of those guys I named. WTF are you talking about?

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    Nice consistency. And considering that half of your list contains players that are either Greek or have some sort of Greek connection, I don't consider your opinion at all. If Haislip were Greek, you'd be claiming he's Wilt reincarnate.

    And BTW, Batiste is a small forward on the NBA level. I know he plays center in Greece but that doesn't make him an NBA bigman.
    Drew Gooden is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Tim Duncan.

    Same exact thing as you have said here. Purely ridiculous. Haislip would not even get a contract from a top Euroleague club.

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    Very easily. From KBP's list, half of the guys are basically slower, less athletic, Matt Bonners. And seriously, Teletovic? Or Printezis, a hustle guy who can't create his own shot?

    I mean, in Europe I'd certainly prefer David Andersen or Filipe Reyes to Haislip. But for a NBA team? Meh, maybe Andersen, if I really needed the outside shooting, but Haislip, while inconsistent, isn't soft as pillows.
    Printezis who has an excellent one on one post game cannot create his own shot? Teletovic who is by far a better offensive players and shooter? You never fail to prove you make up all of your European basketball "knowledge".

    And fool I did not say Printezis was better than him. You even lack reading ability. I ranked Haislip above him dumb ass.

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    Drew Gooden is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>Tim Duncan.

    Same exact thing as you have said here. Purely ridiculous. Haislip would not even get a contract from a top Euroleague club.

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    So Spain is not in Europe?
    Bonner is one of the best PFs in Texas. So according to you Bonner = one of best PFs in NBA. Nice logic and reasoning.

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    WHAT THE ?

    And Garbajosa isn't better than him. Three years ago he was that good. Now... Absolutely no.

    In domestic league, Haislip and Reyes averaged the same quan y of points. Obviously Reyes is much better than Haislip, but that's a fact.

    And yes, if his name was Haislipis and he was born in Greece, you'd say that he's a beast and bla bla bla. Don't fool people.


    Great, great deal for the min. I'm wondering if Bonner will be shipped soon...
    I listed 15 players better than him and you can only name 1 Garbajosa that is not. And this is a proven NBA player. Oh I see Haislip is 15th best PF in Europe according to you. Yep, nothing at all wrong with calling him "one of the best players in Europe".

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    Maybe I'm staying on a first bad impression but for me he is not that good (top 5) even at European level but it was one year ago I hope he is better now. The fact he is abandonning a lot of money in this story is maybe a good sign of his motivation.
    IGNORE what he says. He has clearly NEVER in his life seen those players play before.

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    You are a ing dumb ass. I listed all the Euroleague PFs better than him. Now you explain to me how he can be better than ANY of those guys I named. WTF are you talking about?
    Defensive, much?

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    IGNORE what he says. He has clearly NEVER in his life seen those players play before.
    I ignore people who want to draft people who aren't in the draft.

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    At least the spurs got something..
    Maybe they knew Wallace was never gonna come and had different plans.
    To be honest, I'm not THAT disappointed with him not coming, but if we get dice we'd be getting out 4.

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    bonner is one of the best pfs in texas.

    lolz.

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    Bonner is one of the best PFs in Texas.
    And you say Spurs' fans are unknowledgable and you say this?

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    Bonner is one of the PFs in Texas.
    That's more like it.

    But not for long.

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    At first I was a bit suprised but I guess it makes sense low risk possible reward. Spurs need more bigmen and he looks like a good prospect. I'm a bit disapointed this may affect Gist but maybe it'll show him that Euro play will help him in the long run. I just hope he plays D better than Bonner

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    Bonner is one of the best PFs in Texas. So according to you Bonner = one of best PFs in NBA. Nice logic and reasoning.
    Who's the best PF in Arkansas?

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    Haslip is rated by DraftExpress as the third best overseas free agent -- behind only Brontosaurus and Pargo. If he's that well regarded these days, perhaps this is a legit NBA contract he's receiving from the Spurs.



    thx

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    article from 2007 when Unicaja (Marcus' team) beat the
    Grizz, granted it was only a preseason game but Marcus did have to play Pau
    Gasol downlow and fared pretty well

    Unicaja Malaga 102, Grizzlies 99

    Grizzlies fall in preseason opener vs. Malaga

    Their front line -- led by Boniface Ndong and Marcus Haslip's double-doubles -- dominated the Grizzlies.

    "They're just players like us," said Haslip, a former Tennessee Volunteer after collecting 18points and 11 rebounds. "The main focus was to just come out and try to be aggressive, and not get star-struck or intimidated. They're probably more athletic than us but we did a good job of attacking them."
    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...-grizzlies-99/

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    I listed 15 players better than him and you can only name 1 Garbajosa that is not. And this is a proven NBA player. Oh I see Haislip is 15th best PF in Europe according to you. Yep, nothing at all wrong with calling him "one of the best players in Europe".



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    NBA Europe Live report: Unicaja 102-99 Memphis



    A full house of almost 10,000 fans at Martin Carpena Arena in Malaga, Spain got what they came for on Tuesday, drama and entertainment in equal doses, as host Unicaja defeated the Memphis Grizzlies 102-99 in the third of four NBA Europe Live games involving Euroeague teams. It was a thriller full of shift changes from start to finish. Unicaja shook off an early double-digit deficit to take over with defense in the second quarter. Unicaja led by a high of 15 points, 69-54, midway through the third quarter, but Memphis erased all of that deficit before the start of the last one. By the time its 8-29 run was over, Memphis was up 73-82, but not even that lead was safe as Unicaja roared back thanks to back-to-back triples from Davor Kus and 6 points in crunch time by Boniface Ndong to hold on for the victory. Kus, who was a perfect 4-for-4 at the foulline in the last 13 seconds, led Unicaja with 20 points. Marcus Haislip had a double-double of 18 points and 11 rebounds, while Ndong had one of 16 and 12. Daniel Santiago followed with 14 points, while Berni Rodriguez and German Gabriel had 13 each. Players trained in the Euroleague led the way for Memphis, too, as Juan Carlos Navarro debuted with 21 points on 5-for-8 three-point shooting, while Pau Gasol had 18 points and 8 rebounds. Mark Miller followes with 17, while Rudy Gay added 14 and Hakeem Warrick 11. Unicaja's domination of the boards, where it took 59 rebounds to 37 for Memphis, proved crucial.

    To start the game, Ndong was all of Unicaja's offense, hitting short jumpers over Gasol, until Haislip dropped a hook from the middle and gave the hosts an early 6-5 lead. Soon, however, Unicaja's shots stopped falling and Memphis allowed no offensive rebounds. At the other end, Miller scored 5 consecutive points in the middle of a 0-11 run that shot the visitors ahead 6-16 on the scoreboard. After a timeout, Haislip got loose inside to stop the Unicaja scoring drought, but Memphis kept hitting at the other end, Warrick dropping a tough jumper and Gay dunking on a fastbreak. Unicaja came alive as Carlos Cabezas put back the hosts' first offensive rebound, Haislip made a pair of free throws and Kus downed a short jumper. The shots dried up for Memphis, which also missed its free throws, while Haislip put on a show with a whirling drive to the hoop, followed by a steal and dunk that left an 18-21 score after 12 minutes.

    Haislip gave Unicaja a 21-21 tie on the first play of the second quarter, then after Gay scored in close, Kus hit from outside to tie again. Gasol protected the Memphis lead at 23-25 on a nice feed from Damon Stoudamire, but Unicaja was feeling confident now. Santiago dropped a reverse hook and Rodriguez finished a give-and-go with a free throw for a new Unicaja lead, 28-25. Gasol and Gay, the latter with a rim-rocking fastbreak dunk, got the lead back for Memphis. Santiago tied it 29-29 at the line before he and Gasol traded hooks over each other. Then Santiago did him one better on a three-point play that put Unicaja back in front 34-31. That's when Gabriel came along to boost his team into a comfort zone on the scoreboard with 10 consecutive points. He got fouled on his first three-point attempt, hitting 2 of 3 free throws, then took a long pass on a break for a layup. Next, Gabriel stepped outside for back-to-back triples that brought down the house and left Unicaja up by 11 points, 44-33, with 4 minutes to go until the half. Memphis needed a timeout to talk about Unicaja's defense, and it worked, as Mike Conley found his second basket, Navarro his first and Stromile Swift free throws and a late dunk to cut the difference to 47-42 at the break.

    Unicaja came out of the intermission and took charge again. Free throws by Rodriguez and a give-and-go three-point play from Ndong to Alfonso Sanchez gave the hosts their biggest lead yet, 54-42. Ndong soon rattled the rim with a put-back dunk, forcing a Memphis timeout at 56-44. Gay's jumper and a triple by Miller calmed Memphis momentarily, but Haislip beat the shot clock with a triple in response and Rodrgiuez banked from downtown to raise the roof and the lead, to 62-47. Gay and Gasol scored to help Memphis recover, but the Grizzlies only got free throws for awhile after that as Haislip connected with Ndong on a dunk and Popovic had a backdoor layup to keep Unicaja ahead by 69-54. Free throws by Kyle Lowry and his pass to a streaking Warrick for a three-point play sparked a Memphis comeback. Gasol was next, getting a basket-plus-free throw, then Navarro drilled from downtown, Casey Jacobsen hit a free throw and Darko Milicic a hook to cut the difference to 70-68. Navarro capped the comeback by beating the third-quarter buzzer with a triple from the top, finishing a 17-1 run with Memphis back in the lead, 70-71.

    Gabriel struck from deep again to retake the lead for Unicaja on the first shot of the fourth quarter, but Navarro answered him in kind. Gasol blocked Gabriel's next three-point try and scored at the other end. Then Navarro drilled a two-point jumper, Warrick slammed and Miller finished a fastbreak as Memphis took over at 73-82. It was Unicaja's turn to counterpunch, and the triggerman was Kus. His firs three-pointer calmed the hosts, and on the next trip down, his second came with a free throw for a four-point play. Santiago stepped up and slammed a rebound, and suddenly it was tied 82-82 with 7 minutes left. Navarro was having none of it. He went to the corner and then back out to the top again to match Kus's back-to-back triples. Then he passed on the break to Gay for a dunk and drove for his patented "bomba" shot to make it 83-92 for Memphis. Less than 5 minutes remained, but Unicaja was far from finished. Rodriguez shot from outside, Hailsip and Kus got to the free throw line, and then Kus made it a whole new ballgame when his triple fell for a 91-92 score with 2:11 left to play. Gasol hooked in a shot to keep Memphis safe, but only until Ndong rammed in an alley-oop pass and, with 44 seconds left, tipped in a rebound to set the crowd on fire with a new Unicaja lead, 95-94. Ndong made sure that the hosts didn't give up after that, too, tipping in the next basket and then dunking again for a 97-94 scoreboard with 17.9 seconds to go. Memphis was hurt when Miller missed 2 free throws, but his triple with 4.5 seconds left and free throws after that made it 100-99 before Kus finished off the victory at the foul line.
    Tuesday, October 09, 2007


    http://www.euroleague.net/item/15948

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    http://www.nba.com/games/20071009/MEMMAL/boxscore.html

    link to the boxscore of that game

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    Man from what i've watched on youtube this fool got's some potential! What do you all think?

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    gist is better *clap* clap* *clap,clap,clap*

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    If in fact only one of the two PFs (ie. Gist and Haislip) will be on the roster, then they will have the chance to prove who's the better player over the summer.. no holds barred if in the end there can only be one. Should be fun to watch. Right now perhaps haislip may have the more impressive credentials and have a more polished game.. we'll see.

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