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    hopefully bonner is n his way out along with finley for a small foward
    Yeah, maybe we can find a guy like Richard Jefferson. Oh wait...

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    No problem with that...

    I am astounded by the amount of donative felatio that timvp recieves on a daily basis.

    That said, his insight makes this board.

    Gluck, gluck, gluck.

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    If his contract is guaranteed (and I really think he is), Spurs should be quite high on him.

    There are a lot of question marks at PF/C with Blair, Mahinmi and maybe Gist. The logical move would have been to add some stability to this group with some vets PF/C. Spurs have instead added another question mark. Spurs should think that Haislip will likely turn into a solid NBA player to take that risk.
    If it's guaranteed, then kinda tells me that the Spurs are confident they will land a quality big. Blair, Mahinmi, Bonner and Haislip isn't a bad set of backup bigs if the starters are Duncan and Wallace (or McDyess).

    But now if the bigs end up being Duncan, Blair, Mahinmi, Bonner, Haislip and Brandon Bass or Big Baby ... then it may be time to worry. In this scenario, someone like Rasho or Oberto are much safer than Haislip.

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    I guess it wouldn't be a Spurs offseason if they didn't bring in some guy from Europe that most of us haven't ever heard of...even if he is American.

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    The terms of the Spurs’ offer remain unclear, though it is likely to start at the veteran’s minimum.
    That's good news. So we still have both exception

    If we can sign Sheed or McDyess I like our big man rotation.

    2 old guys who will finish games, TD and Wallace or McDyess, instant rebound with Blair, 3PT specialist with Bonner and 2 athletic guys in Ian and Haislip

    No Oberto and no Gist for next season

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    Our bench is going to be very intriguing this season..

    looking at it right now, assuming we can get Wallace or McDyess(which isn't a guarantee at all of course), we would have an above average bench with Manu, Hill, Bonner, and Finley..the great thing is that our bench has A LOT of room to grow..potentially by the middle of next season, the Spurs could have the best bench in the NBA, at least IMO..we have some nice prospects off the bench in Blair, Mahinmi, Haislip, and the possibilities of the returning Bowen, with a combination from Gist, McClinton, and Hairston..

    I like how it's shaping up..potential is just potential though, so we'll see how it works out..

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    if we land Sheed, that could be: Duncan, Sheed, Blair, Mahinmi, Haislip and Bonner ?

    for what i see, that's one sure thing with Tim and 5 gambles. 2 young unproven players, 1 who has yet to prove something in the NBA, 1 who has yet to prove something in the PO (where it matters) and 1 that has yet to prove he has something left in the tank and that he will fit our team.

    a lot of questions for our frontcourt.
    Of course....there will be questions! That's what happens when you get young, unproven players.

    It seems like Spurs fans want to play both sides of the fence.

    One hand they said get rid of the old players.

    Well...the Spurs have done that and gotten younger!

    Now..they are saying there are a lot of questions know in our frontcourt!!

    In life.....when you a take a risk there will always be questions...but you do it anyway!

    It looks like the FO have made good decisions (RJ) and taken risks. (Haslip)

    But, if there's no pain....there will be no gain.

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    Nothing wrong with giving all these youngsters a shot and seeing which one wants it the most...

    A little compe ion may also be the way to see what Ian is really worth.

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    If it's guaranteed, then kinda tells me that the Spurs are confident they will land a quality big. Blair, Mahinmi, Bonner and Haislip isn't a bad set of backup bigs if the starters are Duncan and Wallace (or McDyess).
    It's a bench with 3 players that have played a combined 23 minutes in the NBA since 2005 and a player who has badly choked in the playoffs.
    Even behind 2 solid bigs, it's quite a gamble.

    If Spurs start the season like that, they surely will keep in mind "if things went wrong with our prospects, we will do a mid-season trade for a solid big".

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    IMO:

    T. Parker / G. Hill
    R. Mason / M. Ginobili / J. mcClinton
    R. Jefferson / M. Finley / J. Gist
    T. Duncan / D. Blair / M. Haslip
    R.Wallace / I. Mahinmi / M. Bonner

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    IMO, the spurs have fortified the starting spots for another run or two, while simultaneously throwing young legs in the mix to see which ones might contribute to our future.

    Best possible gameplan under the cir stances.

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    It's a bench with 3 players that have played a combined 23 minutes in the NBA since 2005 and a player who has badly choked in the playoffs.
    Even behind 2 solid bigs, it's quite a gamble.

    If Spurs start the season like that, they surely will keep in mind "if things went wrong with our prospects, we will do a mid-season trade for a solid big".
    It also may be a sign that Finley will be the backup PF


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    IMO:

    T. Parker / G. Hill
    R. Mason / M. Ginobili / J. mcClinton
    R. Jefferson / M. Finley / J. Gist
    T. Duncan / D. Blair / M. Haslip
    R.Wallace / I. Mahinmi / M. Bonner
    I would like to see Malik Hairston make the squad. I don't think Gist is a 3 either. And hopefully one of these young guys will show bonner to the exit via trade...

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    It's a bench with 3 players that have played a combined 23 minutes in the NBA since 2005 and a player who has badly choked in the playoffs.
    Even behind 2 solid bigs, it's quite a gamble.

    If Spurs start the season like that, they surely will keep in mind "if things went wrong with our prospects, we will do a mid-season trade for a solid big".
    ...which why I think it's likely they will at least attempt to get the feelers out on a trade before the season starts...probably something similar to what has been previously discussed on here(Bonner/Finley for Collison/Foster). That type of trade makes even more sense now because Haislip is a shooting big.

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    And hopefully one of these young guys will show bonner to the exit via trade...
    Not.

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    If Spurs start the season like that, they surely will keep in mind "if things went wrong with our prospects, we will do a mid-season trade for a solid big".
    I wonder if Presti would let go of Collison if the Spurs reunite Presti with Mahinmi.

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    Fans on this board are never happy. The FO signs a young super athletic player, that is one of the better PF prospects in Europe, to a cheap contract and people still complain. You can’t complain about being too old and then turn around and complain about being too young. The man love for Gist is also getting ridiculous. He may end up being a better player 3-4 years from now but for next year Haislip is a MUCH better player and is proven. he is probably better than Ian at this point. But, people will still complain.

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    Fans on this board are never happy. The FO signs a young super athletic player, that is one of the better PF prospects in Europe, to a cheap contract and people still complain. You can’t complain about being too old and then turn around and complain about being too young. The man love for Gist is also getting ridiculous. He may end up being a better player 3-4 years from now but for next year Haislip is a MUCH better player and is proven. he is probably better than Ian at this point. But, people will still complain.
    This signing reminds me of the signing of Roger Mason Jr. last season

    Mahinmi/Gist are going to be ready to go in a few seasons, but Haislip may be able to provide us with some fuel right now

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    What I'm not getting is that this guy looks like a more polished Pops Mensah-Bonsu, so you would think that he'd have a whole bunch of support in these forums

    Another thing is that I think this guy will come hungry and ready to learn. From the spanish article, it seems as if he really really wanted to get back in the NBA, regardless of the money and I'm thinking that'll translate to super-intensity and mega-hustle

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    I wonder if Presti would let go of Collison if the Spurs reunite Presti with Mahinmi.
    Trading Mahinmi?

    Presti has found his "Mahinmi" with Ibaka. Ibaka has had a damn good season in Spain and could turn into the real deal.

    IMO, Collison is the most likely trade target for Spurs. I can see Thunder trading him to develop younger players and to have more cap space in 2010.

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    Outside of 3-point shooting, Bonner is bare minimum at every turn (rebounding, D, floor IQ). I don't care if he shoots 60% from 3 during the season, if he can't show up during the playoffs we don't need him. We have a squad that can win the division, we need guys that can make plays when the heat is on.

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    Outside of 3-point shooting, Bonner is bare minimum at every turn (rebounding, D, floor IQ). I don't care if he shoots 60% from 3 during the season, if he can't show up during the playoffs we don't need him. We have a squad that can win the division, we need guys that can make plays when the heat is on.
    This post is filled entirely with Bonner hate cliches.

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    Outside of 3-point shooting, Bonner is bare minimum at every turn (rebounding, D, floor IQ). I don't care if he shoots 60% from 3 during the season, if he can't show up during the playoffs we don't need him. We have a squad that can win the division, we need guys that can make plays when the heat is on.
    Lol...don't even try man. z0sa is the biggest Bonner defender on this site. You are not going to get anywhere with him.

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    What I'm not getting is that this guy looks like a more polished Pops Mensah-Bonsu, so you would think that he'd have a whole bunch of support in these forums

    Another thing is that I think this guy will come hungry and ready to learn. From the spanish article, it seems as if he really really wanted to get back in the NBA, regardless of the money and I'm thinking that'll translate to super-intensity and mega-hustle
    Yeah I know. He seems like what Pops or Gist can be in a couple years IF they continue to improve. I also like his "dont f*ck with me" at ude. Did you see that right hook he threw at the end of the youtube highlight? While I dont condone fighting on the court it will be nice to have that at ude.

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    the cliches are usually spot on.

    However, more than that, it's not so much about Bonner as it's about what the young guys (isn't this thread about Hairslip?) can bring to the table that we've been missing: length, athleticism, rebounding, interior presence, dunking on folks, etc.

    Bonner just happens to be the an hesis of all that. The man's best move on the defensive end is to stick his arms up straight and hope the shooter throws the ball off them

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