Rasheed Wallace signs with the Celtics

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Rasho is a better defender than Wilcox, Rasho has a solid midrange game that I'm yet to see from Wilcox, Rasho knows the system and Wilcox is unlikely to ever be able to learn it, Rasho actually busts a gut and Wilcox doesn't.

So how about you explain to me why Wilcox is such a wonderful fit? He's an athlete, nothing more, and the Spurs' system demands more than just athleticism.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

sorry I'll try to be more attentive next time.

S'ok.

[mardigan]

Wilcox would be in Pop's doghouse after 1 game..I don't understand the fascination with guys like him..

Talented scorer, pretty damn good rebounder, and he's young.
He's never played with a good team, so I would be curious to see what he could do being in a stable system with great players around him.

[mattyc]

Not the end of the world. Get Dice.

[024]

i'm fine with either sheed or mcdyess. i would have preferred sheed because he would make matt bonner obsolete and is taller to defend gasol. i suspected that sheed may have little less in the tank and that a 2-3 year contract would be unwise. maybe the spurs thought so too. but now, really, it's mcdyess or bust.

[baseline bum]

It has to be that the Spurs didn't truly want him. Perhaps they told him the team wasn't willing to match the Celtics' offer. The timing is just too weird to mean anything else.

. So Finley's sorry ing ass ensured the Spurs weren't going to spend the MLE?

[urunobili]

Wilcox would be in Pop's doghouse after 1 game..I don't understand the fascination with guys like him..

Wilcox > Thomas > Bonner > Oberto

It ain't no fascination is the hope of an upgrade of someone that may end up beasting if being put in the right situation...

[mattyc]

Bull . McDyess does rebound (9.8 boards per game in 30 mins last year!), and we don't need him to be a weakside shotblocker, that's Tim's job (he still got 0.8 in 30 mins last year). He CAN space the floor as his mid-range game is fantastic, and he's a solid defender. He's 6'9.5" without shoes, 0.25" shorter than Sheed, which makes him 6'11" in shoes. We don't need him to guard 3s, we have other players to do that. And as for his knees, he's adjusted his game since his injuries and seems to be fine. In other words, you don't like McDyess but you also don't know about him.

Hear hear!

[anakha]

He's never played with a good team, so I would be curious to see what he could do being in a stable system with great players around him.

FOs thinking solely on potential is how players like Kwame Brown have stayed in the league so long.

Just saying.

[mardigan]

Rasho is a better defender than Wilcox, Rasho has a solid midrange game that I'm yet to see from Wilcox, Rasho knows the system and Wilcox is unlikely to ever be able to learn it, Rasho actually busts a gut and Wilcox doesn't.

So how about you explain to me why Wilcox is such a wonderful fit? He's an athlete, nothing more, and the Spurs' system demands more than just athleticism.

I know I know, I just hate Rasho. Sadly, your probably right..............
But Wilcox is still young, and I still believe he could flourish in the right situation.

[DPG21920]

. So Finley's sorry ing ass ensured the Spurs weren't going to spend the MLE?

You are just looking for reasons to rip Finley. How can you pull that from Timvp's statement?

Let it play out.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Ruff doesn't like Wilcox here with us. I haven't really followed his career since he left Maryland so I'm not familiar with his work ethic at all.

Wilcox's work ethic is MIA.

I'm sure anyone who has watched him over the last few years would back that up.

He occasionally produces a highlight reel play, and he had 3 nice seasons for the Sonics in the middle of the decade , but he was in an ideal situation for his talents last year (the Knicks) and bombed. Guy does not work.

[baseline bum]

In the perfect world Spurs 1st target was McDyess and they were also in contact with Wallace.
Maybe McDyess said yes and Spurs said to Wallace they already have their man

In a perfect world the Celtics would be so enamored with Rasheed that they'd send us Perkins for Mason and matching salary.

[HarlemHeat37]

As Ruff said, Wilcox's problem isn't talent..he's probably one of the top 5 laziest players in the NBA, that's been his rap his entire career..he's a wasted talent..

[florige]

Wilcox's work ethic is MIA.

I'm sure anyone who has watched him over the last few years would back that up.

He occasionally produces a highlight reel play, and he had 3 nice seasons for the Sonics in the middle of the decade , but he was in an ideal situation for his talents last year (the Knicks) and bombed. Guy does not work.

Then you are probably right. Especially with the way Pop tosses people in the doghouse for not working hard enough. Then we will be on here complaining why Pop isn't giving Wilcox any PT. lol I had no idea how he has been producing other than looking at his numbers.

[mardigan]

Wilcox's work ethic is MIA.

I'm sure anyone who has watched him over the last few years would back that up.

He occasionally produces a highlight reel play, and he had 3 nice seasons for the Sonics in the middle of the decade , but he was in an ideal situation for his talents last year (the Knicks) and bombed. Guy does not work.

dude, I'll back that up. The guy has been lazy as , but I think Pop could motivate him. He shouldn't be a main option, which many teams have made the mistake of doing. But as a role player I just think he could flourish. And calling the Knicks an ideal situation for any player is kind of silly.
But I've wanted him on the Spurs for like 3 years, so Im kind of biased.

[MarHill]

Wilcox? When the season ended, it was obvious Tim needed the most help. There were two glaring holes: SF and C. Center was the bigger hole because of what it meant to Tim.

The Spurs addressed the SF spot but made the Center spot even worse. It is imperative that the Spurs get a defensive minded big that rebounds.

I've been posting that all along!

The Spurs need a defensive-minded big instead of Sheed. That's why I was high on Gortat instead of him.

I was lukewarm about the Spurs signing him. If they did....I could live with it.

Now that he's gone to Boston.....if may work out for him.

I still felt (from everything I've read) that the Spurs were not really interested. RC said on 760 the Ticket after the draft with getting Blair they could be a lot more selective in getting a big.

Then Sheed's agent commented that San Antonio needed to show a little more interest in acquiring his client.

Those two things kind of gave me the impression they were not that interested.

Anyway, let's see what FO comes up with. As fans...we want the FO get a big name so we can brag to Laker fan or Mav fan or Rocket fan about who we could attract to SA.

However, that has been clear opposite of how the FO has done business the last 10 years.

So let see what happens in the next day or so....and I still think team got better, younger, and more athletic in the offseason so far!

[urunobili]

As Ruff said, Wilcox's problem isn't talent..he's probably one of the top 5 laziest players in the NBA, that's been his rap his entire career..he's a wasted talent..

God I'd pay a ticket to see your face if we sign him and end up being HUGE on a ship' run... Crow is better served cold...

[anakha]

Yea, except Wilcox can at least dribble and catch a ball.

So could Stromile Swift, and that didn't translate into anything either.

I'm not arguing that Wilcox couldn't contribute - just saying that 'what could be' scenarios have rarely worked in favor of any FO taking that chance.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Talented scorer, pretty damn good rebounder, and he's young.
He's never played with a good team, so I would be curious to see what he could do being in a stable system with great players around him.

I know I know, I just hate Rasho. Sadly, your probably right..............
But Wilcox is still young, and I still believe he could flourish in the right situation.

See, the thing is, he's not that young any more. Next season will be his 10th!!! That's why I know he's not going to suddenly become a different player. By the 10th season in the NBA, you know what you are getting from a guy.

Don't get me wrong, I hope we do better than Rasho, but I also know that Wilcox isn't the guy.

Yea, except Wilcox can at least dribble and catch a ball.

Agreed on that!

[Danny.Zhu]

Now Celtics is the best team in the NBA by far...

[MarHill]

. So Finley's sorry ing ass ensured the Spurs weren't going to spend the MLE?

Finley had nothing to with the Spurs' MLE. He had a player option to come back to the Spurs. He was coming back...especially it was his decision not the Spurs.

You're just taking a cheap shot at him!!

[mytespurs]

Is it a certainty we get McDyess?

Again, I'm not surprised Rasheed went to Boston. Perhaps he figures he has a better shot at winning another ring with the Celtics in the "Leastern" conference vs. the WC.

And Boston really wooed him vs the Spurs who didn't seem to show much interest though many says he's a better fit w/the Spurs than the Celts.

[MarHill]

Now Celtics is the best team in the NBA by far...

Not quite....

even on paper they're not the best team. The Lakers has the best team on paper.

But you don't win anything on paper.........let's see what happens in the next day or so.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

dude, I'll back that up. The guy has been lazy as , but I think Pop could motivate him. He shouldn't be a main option, which many teams have made the mistake of doing. But as a role player I just think he could flourish. And calling the Knicks an ideal situation for any player is kind of silly.
But I've wanted him on the Spurs for like 3 years, so Im kind of biased.

Knicks before D'Antoni would have been silly, but Knicks since D'Antoni are on a different path. What I meant was that if he was going to thrive in any system it would have been D'Antoni's, given his athleticism and open-court gifts, but he did nothing.

Anyway, given the Spurs' proclivity for character guys, it's highly unlikely that Wilcox is on their board.