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I'll take anyone except Davis. I'd take ing Mark Bryant before I take Big Baby.
FWIW, Bucher just reported (via everyones favorite Twitter) that McDyess was still on the Spurs list, "possibly at the top".
I'll take anyone except Davis. I'd take ing Mark Bryant before I take Big Baby.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba,174939
some analysis on the potential signing. pretty much what we all already know, the spurs would be signing davis for his potential, not defense or rebounding.
Plenty of other better options on the table that can be had for comparable prices. Bonner, Big Baby, a rookie, and a D-League Ian as Duncan's big man help is going to be disastrous.
Spurs sign Davis, it ranks up there with releasing Scola for Beno Udrih's kneepads.
Jefferson fell into our lap. We agreed to absorb the albatross contract, that's no coup for RC people.
I can't say I'm impressed with the FO at all this summer.
Most understand that Davis will not be signed for defense. He is not a good defender (no better than Bonner and Tim could not save him).
Baby has some potential, but many feel he cannot be an effective starter with the players the Spurs currently have backing him up. Too many question marks when Tim needs help.
Hopefully this is only one of a few moves to be made if this comes true.
I hope this move does not come true at all.
Damn Adam you've been bashing Big Baby HARD the past 2 days.
Then you're a very hard person to impress.
Realistically, there's little chance the full MLE gets you Odom or Varejao. I don't think signing Big Baby affects a potential Camby trade.
As for McDyess, we just don't know those cir stances. Personally I think he's a better fit than Glen Davis, but it's entirely possible he has ruled out playing for a Western Conference club, or the Spurs particularly, or he thinks black is unlucky...there is no way of knowing.
So, if you look at the remaining big men, who is clearly a better addition than Big Baby? Brandon Bass is certainly debatable (I'd rather have Glen Davis) and Pachulia seems like a better fit but a lesser talent.
Getting an ascending player with proven ability to be a key contributor to a championship team is a positive. I fail to see an attainable alternative that is clearly a better move that this one other than McDyess, and we don't really know how attainable he is/was.
If the Spurs were unable to land McDyess, I would be happy to have Big Baby Davis and then trade a combo of Bonner and Fin or whatever for Camby. We'd be looking at a crop of big men consisting of: TD, Camby, Blair, Big Baby, and Haislip. Not bad at all..
Big Baby is absolutely fine if we get Camby..but we aren't anywhere near a deal with Camby, well at least nothing has been publicized..
CIA. One can only hope.
I recall people bemoaning the fact that we took Marcus Williams when Davis was on the board in the '07 draft. I really wonder why everyone's flying off the handle at signing him - pretty consistent big off the bench that's performed admirably in the playoffs.
I know we've gone over this ad nauseum already, but people are ready to call this an awful summer when not just days before everyone thought it was the greatest summer the Spurs have had in a long while. Let's see what the Spurs' FO actually does first and then go crazy.
True. But not for our MLE.
i hate to be a realist, but we are going to sign Big Baby and that'll be the end of our offseason moves.
if it happens, just hope he pans out and that our other young bigs contribute fast.
That would be my only qualm. But the other issue is, though, how many years would it be? Certainly not five. Maybe two with a team option for a third? We need to know that info before we can say that this signing wrecks our off-season and future financial flexibility.
I want to trust our FO during free agency, but this potential signing could set us back a couple of years. Personally I think its all BS, we know the FO is actively seeking a tall big not a wide big. I would of loved Sheed, but lets be honest Pop and the FO are big on Character, not Sheed type character. McDyess on the other hand seems to have "Spurs type character"
Of course, at the time the Spurs had a need for a swingman prospect.
On the other hand, the Spurs got a lucky break (I think/hope) in the draft. If Pop can whip Davis into shape, Blair's a quick study, and Manu and Ian are healthy this season, the bench is deep and wide. And I still think trading for RJ was a great move. Not a bad off-season.
Because Big Baby as a secound round draft pick is good value, and most of us who are absolutely disgusted with the potential of having him now would agree that to have him for a minimum contract would be fine. The rumors are that he is getting the full, or close to all, of the MLE, and he is way overvalued at that money, and especially on the heels of us thinking/hoping we were pursuing Wallace/McDyess/(fill in the blank) for this squad. Getting Big Baby now, for 5 mil or more a year is a lot different than getting him 2 years ago for 450k. I wouldn't pay 5 mil for Blair, but for a secound round pick his value is great.
Having Big Baby at the full MLE now, losing out on Wallace, McDyess, and any of the other names that have been floated, is like Ralphie getting a fruit cake (coincidental paralell???) and socks instead of the Red Ryder BB Gun in A Christmas Story. The only way to describe it is an unfulfilling letdown of monumental proportions, and the way I feel is that I would rather have nothing at all than this guy.
At least passing on him now would allow you to pick up whoever that last guy who signs is...there is always one of those value pickups in mid to late August, and if you have your MLE still available, you can almost certainly get that guy (or even wait until mid-season and sign Leon Powe). But Big Baby??? The move wreaks of desperation...
the acquisition of RJ would still make this a very good offseason.
but the failure to land a legit starting big next to Timmy would still leave many of the problems that were exposed last season.
i think Blair does well and Haislip will become a decent surprise. i'm not sold on Ian yet.
i think we could do a lot better than Big baby, but who knows, maybe he can improve next year as well.
Please don't let this be true. Do not sign Glenn "Crybaby" Davis. The Celtics beat us in the Sheed sweepstakes so we are going to take their leftover garbage? I really hope there is a trade in the works because the rest of the FA market sucks! Does Antonio McDyess have one more good year left in him? That's a of a gamble.
Here's hoping Vinny D will do us a solid and give us Tyrus Thomas for a Bonner or Finley or both. I know . . . wishful thinking.
Last edited by ohmwrecker; 07-06-2009 at 03:05 PM.
Our bench is set. We need a starter. Is Ian plan A? If Pop starts Bonner again I will break into his cellar and smash every bottle of wine in that joint.
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