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You're probably right, but it looks great in HD.
Awesome finish today -- I love it when when hard work is rewarded.
Honestly you really think the guy is clean ? You're just wrong. The vast majority of the cycling world is using drugs.
You're probably right, but it looks great in HD.
Awesome finish today -- I love it when when hard work is rewarded.
exactly, every single one of them!
The guy gets tested more then any other rider out there and has never tested positive.
I hope Lance wins to rub it in their face but Barry never tested positive!
Was Barry tested weekly? Lance was and is. The French have been all over him for the last 10 years.
As a teenager, Lance tested abnormally high on his VO2 Max intake. He is the highest rate of oxygen intake and utilization of any athlete on the planet. When he got cancer, the operation took away about 30 lbs of flesh and organs and the result is that you still have the worlds highest VO2 max athlete minus 30 lbs. You do the math.
Lance doesn't need drugs.
Do you mean riders could use surgery to remove unessential parts of their bodies to increase their performances ?
Or could swimmers get their fingers palmed to swim faster ?
One of the commentators today said that tour officials are having Lance tested for drugs 2 to 3 times a day since the tour started. Make no mistake, they're out to get him if he's dirty. The commentator even made a comment that a lot of the French public is starting to get annoyed at tour officials for testing him so much. French people getting behind Lance. Who woulda ever thunk it?
For the record, I do think Contador (sp?) will win. But if Lance pulls out another tour victory, it will be huge.
Dude I'm sorry to say that but you're naive or stupid.
Marion Jones for instance has been tested 1 0000000 of times before being caught indirectly. If you had a real interest in the cycling and the doping, you would figure out that there is 0 doubt regarding the fact 80% of the tour de france riders are using products.
Saying that I respect the champio he is : everybody is on drugs and he is the best now saying the guy is clean is just
Dude I'm sorry to say that but you're naive or stupid.
Marion Jones for instance has been tested 1 0000000 of times before being caught indirectly. If you had a real interest in the cycling and the doping, you would figure out that there is 0 doubt regarding the fact 80% of the tour de france riders are using products.
Saying that I respect the champio he is : everybody is on drugs and he is the best now saying the guy is clean is just
Due to the bad reputation that cycling has earned for doping, professional cyclers are more strenuously drug tested than any other professional athletes. That's why they find so many dopers in the Tour. Seeing as how Lance is hated in every other civilized country outside of America, I'd bet he's been tested more than any human on earth since the dawn of time. I guess they just can't stand the fact that an American can dominate a sport they care so much about, and we care so little about.
Lance has let it be known on his twitter page that the testing on him has been relentless. If dude is dirty, and is willing to risk his entire legacy while he's in the crosshairs of doping officials, then kudos to him for being smart/slick/crafty enough to not get caught.
But I'm still not buying all the Europeans and other foreigners are slinging Lance's way. Think about it for a second. He's been retired for 4 years. He could've rode off into the sunset and been regarded as the best ever. But somehow, you think he's ready to risk his entire legacy by coming back dirty? C'mon now.
Maybe, just maybe, he's just a cut above everyone else in his sport during his time. Just like Jordan, Ali, Gretzky, Ruth, etc.
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Do you realize that for instance EPO has been undetected for years ? that some riders have confessed making blood transfusion (you are reading blood transfusion !!!) before, during and after the cycling major events ? that they paid guys fortune to pee instead of them for the tests ? that some of them are carrying pee bag during the stages and use it for the controls ? that every ing retired doctors are all saying the same damn thing the vast majority of the riders are taking products ? that back in early 2000's years riders used to take the famous "pot belge" a mixture of amphetamines / cocaine / caffeine / analgesics / heroin / morphine ? that the Lance personnal doctor name is Michele Ferrari considered in the cycling world one of the best doping doctors with a high expertise at avoiding detection ? Google Michele Ferrari and you will understand.
Now which is funny is I agree to say that Lance is cut above everyone else in his sport during his time, no doubt about that, he is one of the greatest much better than Indurain or Hinault etc... The only one you can put ahead of him is Axel Merckx !
By the way Merckx is also known for using doping products in the seventies !
He has been punished 3 times for doping: Giro d'Italia 1969, Tour of Lombardy 1973 (noradrenaline), Flèche Wallonne 1977 (stimul). He also admitted that he routinely used the exchange of urine with other riders Roger De Vlaeminck.
i watched the tours from 2000 to 2005 and caught most of this one. love it. i don't know 100% Lance is clean...but i know he would be risking an awful lot. my guess/bet is he is clean, and there is no real reason to think otherwise.
^ it's risky for every athlete to take doping products but still happens see Marion Jones, Ben Johnson... the tour de france winner award amounts to 450 Keuro + his salary + publicity + fame +... some people think it worths use doping.
Brazil show me where Lance has tested positive or where I can go to see the proof you have. Otherwise you are an idiot and have no proof. You can not convict someone without proof if you wish to be a hater that's fine but calling Lance a doper with no proof is idiotic.
Armstrong has more to lose than almost any athlete...check that...person in the world. i think its different.
maybe he needs to feed his family, that's why he's taking the risk.
Or maybe he's not getting paid at all.
http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug...yhoo&type=lgns
Armstrong is not getting paid by Astana, having offered his services for free on the understanding that he would be allowed to wear his LiveStrong helmet to promote his cancer charity.
Here is today's Tweet from Lance.
St13 done. Wet and cold. And slightly boring. Can't remember a day this cold in the TdF. Ever. Team was solid and controlled things well and big surprise, had antidoping control @ the finish. Keep looking, nothing to find except hard work & sacrifice. Never was, never will be.
I'm not going to try to convince you, everybody has his opinion but the no proof thing does not mean he is clean legally yes in the facts no. If you wan to believe he is clean good for you.
Lets just agree to disagree
Armstrong drops to 4th at Tour; spectator dies
By JAMEY KEATEN, Associated Press Writer
42 minutes ago
BESANCON, France (AP)—Lance Armstrong dropped one spot to fourth place Saturday at the Tour de France during a stage shadowed by the roadside death of a woman hit by a police motorcycle.
Serguei Ivanov of Russia won the 14th stage and Armstrong’s former teammate George Hincapie rose to second. Hincapie arrived 16 seconds after Ivanov in a small breakaway group.
Hincapie is five seconds behind overall leader Rinaldo Nocentini of Italy. Nocentini was 5 minutes, 36 seconds behind the breakaway group but kept the yellow jersey an eighth straight day.
Alberto Contador dropped from second to third overall. Contador, Armstrong’s Astana teammate and the 2007 champion, is six seconds behind Nocentini. Armstrong is another two seconds back.
The accident happened 24 miles into the 124-mile trip from Colmar to Besancon. The victim, identified by organizers as a 61-year-old woman, was crossing the road when struck by a motorcycle escorting riders. Two others were injured when the motorcycle skidded into them.
Hincapie, a 36-year-old American who rides for the Columbia team, entered the stage 5:25 behind Nocentini in 28th place. Through the final miles, Hincapie’s breakaway group was more than six minutes ahead of the Italian.
Ivanov made a sign of the cross as he finished the stage after bursting ahead of the breakaway group in the latter part of the ride.
The race enters the Alps for Sunday’s 15th stage, a 129-mile ride from Pontarlier, France, to the Swiss ski station of Verbier. The three-week Tour ends July 26 in Paris.
That was a bad day for the TDF....
I should add Hincapie missed the yellow jersey because of his best friend... Lance Amstrong
I was pulling for Hincapie big time. But he did a lot of sitting the last few miles. The opportunity for yellow was there for the taking, but he simply ran out of gas.
He lost it when Lance asked his team to limit the gap around 8 minutes way before that. By doing this the AG2R team realized they could come back close enough to keep the jersey within the last 30 miles. That was a very bad move against his friend IMO.
Uh huh. And where did you get this information? Were you riding next to Lance in the pelaton today when he called this audible?
Did you even bother to watch the interview with Lance after today's stage? He was pretty clear that he was pulling for Georgie to win the yellow jersey. He said it was team Garmin who decided to shorten the gap at the end because of some rivalry they have with Hincapie's team.By doing this the AG2R team realized they could come back close enough to keep the jersey within the last 30 miles. That was a very bad move against his friend IMO.
Damn. You Lance haters are hilarious.
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