Spurs leading race to sign McDyess...

[Brazil]

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Posted by Getting under their skin @ 4:53 PM Tue, Jul 07, 2009
McDyess? Great. SA is absolutely panicking over Marion coming to us. McDyess is a joke; always has been. What are they thinking. Go Mark. Keep making the Spurs panic.

[timvp]

I've been watching a few Pistons games from last season the last few days and one thing McDyess can do that I didn't know he does so well is shoot on the move. The Pistons ran a lot of down screens for him and a lot of Michael Finley-esque curls to get him open from about 17-to-19 feet. He can catch coming off a curl and drain that jumper. He's not like Kurt Thomas who can only hit that shot if he's wide open and stationary.

Pop will love drawing up plays for McDyess. As a fifth option, he would be deadly in the Spurs offense.

[picnroll]

Not the best thing for the Spurs for info about a partially guaranteed third year to come out because some other team may offer the same sweetener. Then again, that may be the whole point of leaking that information out in the first place if it is coming from McDyess's people.

If McDonald knows it every ballboy in the league, let alone every GM, knows it or it's totally bogus information. Take your pick.

[mystargtr34]

Even if the Spurs get McDyess, I still think they need to look for a 7 footer with size. Obviously it will have to be for the minimum, but another big body will defniately help against teams like the Lakers and Cavs.

[crc21209]

I've been watching a few Pistons games from last season the last few days and one thing McDyess can do that I didn't know he does so well is shoot on the move. The Pistons ran a lot of down screens for him and a lot of Michael Finley-esque curls to get him open from about 17-to-19 feet. He can catch coming off a curl and drain that jumper. He's not like Kurt Thomas who can only hit that shot if he's wide open and stationary.

Pop will love drawing up plays for McDyess. As a fifth option, he would be deadly in the Spurs offense.

WOW. Never really noticed that about him either. This is going to be one of a season if this deal gets done. Please PLEASE let it get done.

[crc21209]

Even if the Spurs get McDyess, I still think they need to look for a 7 footer with size. Obviously it will have to be for the minimum, but another big body will defniately help against teams like the Lakers and Cavs.

Let's call up Kevin Willis again, I'm sure he as a few games left in him.

[picnroll]

I've been watching a few Pistons games from last season the last few days and one thing McDyess can do that I didn't know he does so well is shoot on the move. The Pistons ran a lot of down screens for him and a lot of Michael Finley-esque curls to get him open from about 17-to-19 feet. He can catch coming off a curl and drain that jumper. He's not like Kurt Thomas who can only hit that shot if he's wide open and stationary.

Pop will love drawing up plays for McDyess. As a fifth option, he would be deadly in the Spurs offense.

... and Blair is supposed to set good picks.

[angelbelow]

Not the best thing for the Spurs for info about a partially guaranteed third year to come out because some other team may offer the same sweetener. Then again, that may be the whole point of leaking that information out in the first place if it is coming from McDyess's people.

true, if i were the gm i wouldnt have leaked the offered contract unless i knew it was good enough to scare.

[lurker23]

I've been watching a few Pistons games from last season the last few days and one thing McDyess can do that I didn't know he does so well is shoot on the move. The Pistons ran a lot of down screens for him and a lot of Michael Finley-esque curls to get him open from about 17-to-19 feet. He can catch coming off a curl and drain that jumper. He's not like Kurt Thomas who can only hit that shot if he's wide open and stationary.

Pop will love drawing up plays for McDyess. As a fifth option, he would be deadly in the Spurs offense.

Very interesting; that would be a great weapon to add to the Spurs playbook. Correct me if my memory fails me, but the only big men I can recall having that skill recently are Tim Duncan and Robert Horry; Thomas, Oberto, Elson, Mohammed, Nesterovic, and Bonner all seemed to be better when squaring up to the basket.

[Buddy Holly]

Parker/Hill/McClinton
Mason/Manu/Hairston
RJ/Gist/Finley
Tim/Blair/Bonner
Dice/Ian/Haislip

[mogrovejo]

McDyess is much better than Wallace now and he's been money with the mid-range jumpers since he came back from injury.

This is depressing.

[CGD]

Even if the Spurs get McDyess, I still think they need to look for a 7 footer with size. Obviously it will have to be for the minimum, but another big body will defniately help against teams like the Lakers and Cavs.

At the price range you suggest, don't we have that already with Ian?

[picnroll]

Very interesting; that would be a great weapon to add to the Spurs playbook. Correct me if my memory fails me, but the only big men I can recall having that skill recently are Tim Duncan and Robert Horry; Thomas, Oberto, Elson, Mohammed, Nesterovic, and Bonner all seemed to be better when squaring up to the basket.

I don't think Duncan shoots on the move.

[vednam]

I've been watching a few Pistons games from last season the last few days and one thing McDyess can do that I didn't know he does so well is shoot on the move. The Pistons ran a lot of down screens for him and a lot of Michael Finley-esque curls to get him open from about 17-to-19 feet. He can catch coming off a curl and drain that jumper. He's not like Kurt Thomas who can only hit that shot if he's wide open and stationary.

Pop will love drawing up plays for McDyess. As a fifth option, he would be deadly in the Spurs offense.

I'm interested in your opinion of McDyess's height.

He's listed at 6'9" (though in some photos he seems like he's as tall as some guys who are listed to be taller--from this my feeling is McDyess has an accurate listing while some other guys have exaggerated listings).

That is good enough to play the 4 with Tim playing the 5. But when the other guys in the front court rotation figure to be Blair and Bonner, that makes for a real lack of length (maybe Mahinimi can surprise and become a solid contributor?).

Even if McDyess signs with the Spurs, I'm afraid Tim will still be left alone in many ways without help against some of the bigger frontlines (like that of the Lakers, for instance).

[angelbelow]

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Posted by Getting under their skin @ 4:53 PM Tue, Jul 07, 2009
McDyess? Great. SA is absolutely panicking over Marion coming to us. McDyess is a joke; always has been. What are they thinking. Go Mark. Keep making the Spurs panic.

[benefactor]

I'm interested on your opinion of McDyess's height.

He's listed at 6'9" (though in some photos he seems like he's as tall as some guys who are listed to be taller--from this my feeling is McDyess has an accurate listing while some other guys have exaggerated listings).

That is good enough to play the 4 with Tim playing the 5. But when the other guys in the front court rotation figure to be Blair and Bonner, that makes for a real lack of length (maybe Mahinimi can surprise and become a solid contributor?).

Even if McDyess signs with the Spurs, I'm afraid Tim will still be left alone in many ways without help against some of the bigger frontlines (like that of the Lakers, for instance).

Huh? Blair has almost 9 feet of standing reach and a 7'2 wingspan. That is as good as most 6'10 guys.

[vednam]

Huh? Blair has almost 9 feet of standing reach and a 7'2 wingspan. That is as good as most 6'10 guys.

Thanks for the clarification. However, it's still not like having a legit 7-footer to help Tim.

[timvp]

I'm interested on your opinion of McDyess's height.

He's listed at 6'9" (though in some photos he seems like he's as tall as some guys who are listed to be taller--from this my feeling is McDyess has an accurate listing while some other guys have exaggerated listings).

That is good enough to play the 4 with Tim playing the 5. But when the other guys in the front court rotation figure to be Blair and Bonner, that makes for a real lack of length (maybe Mahinimi can surprise and become a solid contributor?).

Even if McDyess signs with the Spurs, I'm afraid Tim will still be left alone in many ways without help against some of the bigger frontlines (like that of the Lakers, for instance).

I think his height is fine. He's a solid 6-foot-9. In fact, his official draft combine height is only .25 inches shorter than Rasheed Wallace. Dice is probably taller than a lot of players in the league who are listed at 6-foot-10.

And on the low block, Dice puts up a mean fight. He's not a great post defender or a great help defender but his effort is undeniable. He's also pretty light on his fight. Thomas is a better post defender and Bonner is probably a better perimeter defender but the Spurs haven't had a total package like McDyess at a bigman position since ... maybe Horry's first year with the team before he lost a step on the perimeter.

[lurker23]

I don't think Duncan shoots on the move.

He doesn't do it a lot, since his face-up shot is higher percentage, but he's fully capable of doing so.



Just watch the first part, and don't torture yourself with what happens after that shot.

[timvp]

That is McDyess' shooting chart from these playoffs

The nice thing is that Duncan likes to post up on the left side where McDyess has those grey numbers. Let McDyess stay on the other side and he'll be right in his sweet spot.

[FromWayDowntown]

I've been watching a few Pistons games from last season the last few days and one thing McDyess can do that I didn't know he does so well is shoot on the move. The Pistons ran a lot of down screens for him and a lot of Michael Finley-esque curls to get him open from about 17-to-19 feet. He can catch coming off a curl and drain that jumper. He's not like Kurt Thomas who can only hit that shot if he's wide open and stationary.

Pop will love drawing up plays for McDyess. As a fifth option, he would be deadly in the Spurs offense.

I honestly didn't watch much of the Pistons last year, but one great strength of McDyess's game for years had been his ability to score in pick and rolls. It was a while back, but in the 05 Finals, McDyess was scarily effective in side pick and rolls. His ability to shoot out of pick and rolls is eerily reminiscent (to me, at least) of David Robinson's pet jumper from the elbow in 2 man games late in his career.

I just don't see downside here. If this works out, the Spurs have managed to get younger at the wing, have found an effective and relatively-athletic rebounding big to pair with Tim, and have found 2 younger bigs (reminiscent of pairs like Landry and Hayes or Davis and Powe) to bolster the front line depth. Here's hoping McDyess is on his way and that the Spurs continue to be ruthlessly effective this offseason.

[picnroll]

He doesn't do it a lot, since his face-up shot is higher percentage, but he's fully capable of doing so.



Just watch the first part, and don't torture yourself with what happens after that shot.

Down sceeens? Curls? No way.

[benefactor]

Thanks for the clarification. However, it's still not like having a legit 7-footer to help Tim.

There is just not any of those out there. Having a guy in McDyess that can score and rebound make just as much difference. Even if he can't defend some of the biggest front line players, he will help us win the battle on the boards...which is one that championship teams win.

[Buddy Holly]

Why are people who wanted Wallace questioning Dice?

Dude put up 10 and 10 last season and Wallace put up 12 and 7 playing more minutes.

In the playoffs, Wallace put up a pathetic 7 and 6 while Dice put up 13 and 9.

[coyotes_geek]

And on the low block, Dice puts up a mean fight. He's not a great post defender or a great help defender but his effort is undeniable. He's also pretty light on his fight. Thomas is a better post defender and Bonner is probably a better perimeter defender but the Spurs haven't had a total package like McDyess at a bigman position since ... maybe Horry's first year with the team before he lost a step on the perimeter.

That's the key right there. God it was painful this year having to watch Pop choose between guys who couldn't score and ones who couldn't defend. Dyess, assuming we get him, and Jefferson are going to add so much versatility to this team.