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    Hmmm....isn't the same guy that said the Spurs were the favorites to get Maggette?
    Yeah but to his credit everyone did think the Spurs were the favorites, and no one was going to take him unless they offered a crazy deal which GS ended up doing. And let's face it...no one is going to offer McDyess "crazy money". And if you think about it also...Maggette was about the money and had a "balla" type of at ude. Dyess wants to win a ring now. Plus that guy from Yahoo has been right multiple times. He reported the Kurt Thomas trade and the Jefferson trade.

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    Deal Finley, Bonner, Williams, and perhaps the 2010 1st rounder to Sacto for Nocioni. Re-sign Bowen. The bigman rotation would be a bit young outside of the starters, so perhaps you deal for Foster from Indiana instead. The Haislip signing is curious unless the Spurs intend to do something with Mahinmi, they feel that confident in the young triumvariate....or they will start our Haislip in Austin, but the latter doesn't really make any sense. I think for certain we will see a trade and the writing is on the wall for Finley and Bonner being moved.
    Well, that's a lot of food for thought. Getting Bowen back and getting rid of Finely would be excellent. Obtaining Nocioni would be amazing. I hate to see McClinton on injured reserve. Obviously, with those players that's what would have to happen.

    It would be a very young, athletic team. There would be five players on the floor who can score as starters. It would be a solid defensive starting five. And between Nocioni and Blair, there would be some major energy/hustle/rebounding guys. There would be some real toughness. This would be good also in terms of not running a slow-down, throw the ball into the post offense which isn't the best choice any more.

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    I disagree. I think that the Spurs are more or less fine at PF with McDyess. Their reserve small forward role is not in a crisis or anything, but it's the one place on the roster where they could could improve themselves in terms production per minute. If the Spurs find someway to get a solid 12 - 15 minutes per game behind Jefferson, they'll roll over the West, minus LA.

    I just don't see Finley as a viable option at this point. His defense is too slack. Although, I have no doubt the Spurs plan to go with Fin. Hairston and Williams are not the answer either.
    I have to agree with Bruno. The Spurs could use a little regular season SF help but come playoff time, the Spurs will be more than fine (as long as they are healthy).

    Jefferson can play 40 minutes in the playoffs. Ginobili can play around 30. Mason should be able to play the other 26. If there is foul trouble or Mason disappoints, you have Hill fully capable of playing minutes. If you want further insurance, Bowen can handle that role ... or Bogans if Bowen's time on the Spurs is over.

    Even during the regular season, you can pencil in Jefferson for about 34 minutes, Ginobili for about 27 minutes, Mason for about 27 minutes and Hill for ten minutes. If you go after someone who would warrant 12 to 15 minutes, that would just limit the value and potential for Hill and make it more difficult to build a role for Mason.

    If the Spurs land McDyess, my preference is to find a defensive role player who could play spot minutes when needed (Bowen, Bogans, Anderson, etc.) and use another roster spot for a wing who can play in Austin (Hairston, perhaps Gist).

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    If the Spurs FO managed to get RJ, Blair/McClinton/de colo, Haslip, McDyess, Bowen back and get rid of Finley, it would have to be one of the best offseasons in a long, LONG time.

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    Orlando could find themselves sorely pressed to field a full roster next year. I wonder if they could be taken advantage of with a 2-for-1 deal. Bonner + Finley for Pietrus, anybody?

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    Orlando could find themselves sorely pressed to field a full roster next year. I wonder if they could be taken advantage of with a 2-for-1 deal. Bonner + Finley for Pietrus, anybody?

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    Orlando could find themselves sorely pressed to field a full roster next year. I wonder if they could be taken advantage of with a 2-for-1 deal. Bonner + Finley for Pietrus, anybody?
    Do the salaries match??

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    Do the salaries match??
    Yes.

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    Orlando could find themselves sorely pressed to field a full roster next year. I wonder if they could be taken advantage of with a 2-for-1 deal. Bonner + Finley for Pietrus, anybody?
    He won't be happy to just play 10-15 minutes here.

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    Orlando could find themselves sorely pressed to field a full roster next year. I wonder if they could be taken advantage of with a 2-for-1 deal. Bonner + Finley for Pietrus, anybody?
    yeah Orlando would totally do that deal

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    I disagree. I think that the Spurs are more or less fine at PF with McDyess. Their reserve small forward role is not in a crisis or anything, but it's the one place on the roster where they could could improve themselves in terms production per minute. If the Spurs find someway to get a solid 12 - 15 minutes per game behind Jefferson, they'll roll over the West, minus LA.

    I just don't see Finley as a viable option at this point. His defense is too slack. Although, I have no doubt the Spurs plan to go with Fin. Hairston and Williams are not the answer either.
    I agree. I think they could improve themselves at the backup SF spot, but I am not going to hold my breath that anyone else would be signed for that position besides Bowen. If the Spurs get McDyess, I think their offseason will be pretty much complete.

    I am a little intrigued to see what Williams and Hairston can do on a long term basis, but understand that they both would not have guaranteed contracts anytime soon. If the Spurs see that they need more help in the middle of the year, they can always make a trade with their moveable pieces to help in the areas of need. This is usually how the Spurs have operated in the past.

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    2 Ginobili
    3 Jefferson
    4 Duncan
    5 McDyess

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    2 Mason
    2/3 Bowen
    3 Nocioni
    4 Haislip
    4 Blair
    4/5 Mahinmi

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    1/2 McClinton
    2/3 Hairston
    4 Gist

    Deal Finley, Bonner, Williams, and perhaps the 2010 1st rounder to Sacto for Nocioni. Re-sign Bowen. The bigman rotation would be a bit young outside of the starters, so perhaps you deal for Foster from Indiana instead. The Haislip signing is curious unless the Spurs intend to do something with Mahinmi, they feel that confident in the young triumvariate....or they will start our Haislip in Austin, but the latter doesn't really make any sense. I think for certain we will see a trade and the writing is on the wall for Finley and Bonner being moved.
    As nice as it sounds, I just don't see the Spurs going out and getting someone like Nocioni. His contract is too large for him being a backup SF/PF.

    At this point, I think if the Spurs sign McDyess, they will go with the mindset that enough change has been made and still would want some old pieces for continuity (Finley, Bonner, and possibly Bowen). All three mentioned can be effective for backup roles where lots of minutes won't have to be logged.

    Would they be better than Nocioni? Of course not, but the FO has done a well enough job and spent enough money to put them back in the le hunt (if a player like McDyess is added).

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    I have to agree with Bruno. The Spurs could use a little regular season SF help but come playoff time, the Spurs will be more than fine (as long as they are healthy).

    Jefferson can play 40 minutes in the playoffs. Ginobili can play around 30. Mason should be able to play the other 26. If there is foul trouble or Mason disappoints, you have Hill fully capable of playing minutes. If you want further insurance, Bowen can handle that role ... or Bogans if Bowen's time on the Spurs is over.

    Even during the regular season, you can pencil in Jefferson for about 34 minutes, Ginobili for about 27 minutes, Mason for about 27 minutes and Hill for ten minutes. If you go after someone who would warrant 12 to 15 minutes, that would just limit the value and potential for Hill and make it more difficult to build a role for Mason.

    If the Spurs land McDyess, my preference is to find a defensive role player who could play spot minutes when needed (Bowen, Bogans, Anderson, etc.) and use another roster spot for a wing who can play in Austin (Hairston, perhaps Gist).

    You forgot to mention Haislip. He is a 6'10 forward who can play 2 positions.

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    Man I hope I get this one right. If I do then maybe they will stop bad mouthing me so much on SpursTalk. At the very least they will surely quit begging for Ludden to come back.
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    You forgot to mention Haislip. He is a 6'10 forward who can play 2 positions.
    I doubt he can play small forward in the NBA. Hopefully I'm wrong but he doesn't appear to have near the perimeter skills.

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    Thanks for the clarification. However, it's still not like having a legit 7-footer to help Tim.
    You don't block shots or rebound with the top of your ing head. If he's got the same standing reach as a 6'10" player, then it's a push.

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    Orlando could find themselves sorely pressed to field a full roster next year. I wonder if they could be taken advantage of with a 2-for-1 deal. Bonner + Finley for Pietrus, anybody?
    As much as I'd love getting rid of findog and bonner, getting back a guard makes that trade stupid after giving up another one of our limited number of bigs

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    Man I hope I get this one right. If I do then maybe they will stop bad mouthing me so much on SpursTalk. At the very least they will surely quit begging for Ludden to come back.
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    McDonald is doing a better job this summer. Granted, he's usually about a couple hours behind the national press on the breaking news, but that's probably because he's on the phone using his sources to independently verify the information. If he's ever fundamentally wrong, it's much easier to tell the editor, "my sources had bad information," than to say, "I just went with what Yahoo! Sports was saying." I think we'll continue to see McDonald improving as he gets on better relations with important sources.

    That being said, people will continue to want Ludden back for at least the next 5 years, if not 50.

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    Dice is the clear #2 choice for me behind sheed - I only have one problem with the guy. He went to Alabama. WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!! Okay, that's out of my system now. Come on Dice!!!!!!!!!

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    Starters
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    4 Gist

    Deal Finley, Bonner, Williams, and perhaps the 2010 1st rounder to Sacto for Nocioni. Re-sign Bowen. The bigman rotation would be a bit young outside of the starters, so perhaps you deal for Foster from Indiana instead. The Haislip signing is curious unless the Spurs intend to do something with Mahinmi, they feel that confident in the young triumvariate....or they will start our Haislip in Austin, but the latter doesn't really make any sense. I think for certain we will see a trade and the writing is on the wall for Finley and Bonner being moved.

    Here is the way it should be and if you disagree say something about it!

    Pg- Tony Parker
    Sg- Roger Mason
    Sf- Richard Jefferson
    Pf- Antonio McDyess
    C- Tim Duncan

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    Sg-Manu Ginobili
    G- George Hill
    PF- Matt Bonner
    PF- Dajuan Blair
    C/F-Ian Mahimi
    F-Marcus Haislip
    F-James Gist
    G-Jack McClinton

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    Here is the way it should be and if you disagree say something about it!

    Pg- Tony Parker
    Sg- Roger Mason
    Sf- Richard Jefferson
    Pf- Antonio McDyess
    C- Tim Duncan

    BENCH
    Sg-Manu Ginobili
    G- George Hill
    PF- Matt Bonner
    PF- Dajuan Blair
    C/F-Ian Mahimi
    F-Marcus Haislip
    F-James Gist
    G-Jack McClinton
    That lineup leaves the swing positions awfully thin.

    And until Hill can show he's comfortable playing backup PG, I'm not too keen on not having a third PG.

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    For a 10 and 10 guy it's a good deal.
    Yup. Or would they rather give davis the full mle

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    Several sources are indicating that the Spurs have moved to the top of the list of teams that could land Antonio McDyess Wednesday.

    July 7, My San Antonio: The Spurs have emerged as the frontrunner in the chase to land free-agent forward Antonio McDyess.

    According to a league executive with knowledge of the negotiations, the Spurs have offered McDyess a three-year deal starting at the full mid-level exception, with the third year partially guaranteed.

    It has been widely speculated that McDyess, 34, will play only two more years. If the Spurs' rumored bid is true, the Spurs have essentially sweetened their best two-year offer by guaranteeing McDyess a bit of money for retirement in 2011-12.

    The Pistons can't beat that deal. So McDyess can get more money, and also have a better chance at winning a le with the Spurs. There has been no better professional than McDyess the past several years in Detroit, and while it might be sad to see him go, Antonio deserves a chance to get his ring.

    http://blog.mlive.com/fullcourtpress..._frontrun.html
    Classy take by Detroit media

    I can't tell if that first line is the writer saying he has sources or if the writer is using McDonald's sources.

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    Classy take by Detroit media

    I can't tell if that first line is the writer saying he has sources or if the writer is using McDonald's sources.
    I would assume "several sources" means Yahoo! Sports and SA Express News.

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    Several sources are indicating that the Spurs have moved to the top of the list of teams that could land Antonio McDyess Wednesday.
    I hope we really have an answer tomorrow

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    Classy take by Detroit media

    I can't tell if that first line is the writer saying he has sources or if the writer is using McDonald's sources.
    wow..yeah..very classy...I've always been a fan of the Pistons, and their mentality..it'll be good to have a hard worker like McDyess on our team...I hope it happens.

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