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    McDyess has way much more in the tank than KT did when the Spurs acquired him. He will provide the Spurs just what they need from a starting PF.

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    McDyess has way much more in the tank than KT did when the Spurs acquired him. He will provide the Spurs just what they need from a starting PF.

    What is your reason for saying this? Because McDyess missed several years due to injury? You may be right, I hope so.

    I'm just saying that KT seemed to be the missing piece when he was added but he got old real fast and he clearly wasn't enough the last two years.

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    Come on dice come on come here !

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    Can we sign Dice and keep Gooden at the same time ??????????

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    Maybe the Spurs offered Wallace the same deal and was still declined?
    I think so, and maybe negotiations stalled because Sheed wanted a complete guarantee on the third year. Oh, and then add the summer lovefest put on by the Celtics FO and big 3...

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    Could be. If he doesn't want to play 3 more years, then he'd get a little $ for retirement and another team would get some cap relief, just like the Bucks did.

    I do think the Spurs are trying to set themselves to win a championship(s) in the final three seasons of Duncan's career and transition to life after him. In the case of McDyess, both goals might be met.
    Very true. With the way the league is seemingly headed, teams are making more shrewd moves. Those contracts can be nice trade chips and set you up to with cap space for the future as well.

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    Can we sign Dice and keep Gooden at the same time ??????????
    Not unless Gooden's willing to play for the minimum.

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    McDyess has way much more in the tank than KT did when the Spurs acquired him. He will provide the Spurs just what they need from a starting PF.
    this comment got me thinking, and looking, food for thought:

    career minutes played

    McD has played more NBA minutes than kurt

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    What is your reason for saying this? Because McDyess missed several years due to injury? You may be right, I hope so.

    I'm just saying that KT seemed to be the missing piece when he was added but he got old real fast and he clearly wasn't enough the last two years.

    You're right. We got KT way too late in his career. However my faith in Dice is that he averaged a double-double last season and Jamstone reported earlier, Dice has played more game for the Pistons in the last few years than has Sheed.

    Based upon how Dice contributed last year, I'd be surprised if there is a rapid decline in his game.

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    Can we sign Dice and keep Gooden at the same time ??????????
    Not if we offer Dice the full MLE as speculated.

    Something tells me Ian is going to give us a nice surprise. I think once we fill our starting PF/C void, we're in good shape on bigs.

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    In every photo I see of McDyess and Rasheed side by side they look the same height, but Rasheed is listed as 6'11" and Dice at 6'9". I'd bet both are closer to 6'10".

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    I'm almost afraid to speculate, but if that partially guaranteed 3rd year is true?

    Absolutely brilliant move on the Spurs' part.
    (As has been said, partially guaranteed contracts are quality assets and you need to look no further than how the Spurs acquired Jefferson.)

    'Dyess has always been my second choice, and I stand by my reasoning for 'Sheed, but 'Dyess will fit in seamlessly as a Spur. Hard-working, high-character, and a true professional. (Damn, Fin's going to be pissed when Pop dumps him at the curb. I keed, I keed.)

    The only concerns I have about 'Dyess are his ability to take the pressure off of Tim defensively in the post and his injury-history. Hopefully, the latter will not be a huge topic of conversation in the media (that goes for Blair too) because the last thing I want a player to be thinking about constantly is the fear of injury.

    Great off-season if this comes to fruition.

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    Not if we offer Dice the full MLE as speculated.

    Something tells me Ian is going to give us a nice surprise. I think once we fill our starting PF/C void, we're in good shape on bigs.
    Not unless Gooden's willing to play for the minimum.
    Ah ok.

    Thanks

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    San Antonio McDyess !


    Pun intended

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    Spurs out in front for McDyess
    By Jeff McDonald on Jul 7, 09 05:14 PM | Permalink | Comments (0) Save & Share Yahoo! BuzzYahoo! Newsvine del.icio.us Facebook Google Reddit Fark
    The Spurs have emerged as the frontrunner in the chase to land free-agent forward Antonio McDyess.

    According to a league executive with knowledge of the negotiations, the Spurs have offered McDyess a three-year deal starting at the full mid-level exception, with the third year partially guaranteed.
    It has been widely speculated that McDyess, 34, will play only two more years. If the Spurs' rumored bid is true, the Spurs have essentially sweetened their best offer by guaranteeing McDyess a bit of money for retirement in 2011-12.

    The 6-foot-9 McDyess emerged as the Spurs' top target after Rasheed Wallace -- McDyess' former teammate in Detroit -- agreed to terms with Boston earlier this week. He is also being pursued by Cleveland and Orlando.

    http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...out-in-fr.html
    That's a better deal than was reportedly offered to Sheed. That must mean either:

    1. They didn't make that offer to Sheed because they weren't really in the running anyway. Doubtful.
    2. They wanted McDyess more. Who knows.
    3. They figure they didn't get Sheed, they better get McDyess or their screwed.

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    i hope it wasn't the same source that said the spurs were the front runners for sheed as well...we all know how that turned out.
    Exactly!!.That is what sources were saying last year about Maggette too!!..Why the would players not want to come to San Antonio?....

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    (Damn, Fin's going to be pissed when Pop dumps him at the curb. I keed, I keed.)
    I thought I read Fin had a no-trade clause, maybe that was for 2008-9. Would love to see us get something decent for a Bonner/Finley package. Might like to see Mason stay, but throw him in too if necessary to make the salaries work and as a sweetener. Bonner's $4 million salary is what we really need rid of, but who would want it?

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    So the offer is on the table...could we hear an answer by as soon as tonight...or tomorrow at the latest?

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    Not the best thing for the Spurs for info about a partially guaranteed third year to come out because some other team may offer the same sweetener. Then again, that may be the whole point of leaking that information out in the first place if it is coming from McDyess's people.

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    not a bad deal at all, he'll be a big trading piece once the 3rd year rolls around. and i love having high chaaracter guys in the locker room esp now that we are so young

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    I thought I read Fin had a no-trade clause, maybe that was for 2008-9. Would love to see us get something decent for a Bonner/Finley package. Might like to see Mason stay, but throw him in too if necessary to make the salaries work and as a sweetener. Bonner's $4 million salary is what we really need rid of, but who would want it?
    Seriously?

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    Those partially guaranteed final years wind up being pretty valuable.
    Exactly.

    Major props to the Spurs for going all out for McDyess. The third year should really help sweeten the deal and gives the Spurs a great trading chip when the time comes.

    Come on, Dice.

    Do it.

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    That's a better deal than was reportedly offered to Sheed. That must mean either:

    1. They didn't make that offer to Sheed because they weren't really in the running anyway. Doubtful.
    2. They wanted McDyess more. Who knows.
    3. They figure they didn't get Sheed, they better get McDyess or their screwed.
    I've kind of enjoyed 'Sheed being our poster boy for 3 point playoff daggers the last few years. I would have missed that had he signed with us anyway.

    I've liked Dice better from the start so I hope this works out.

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    That's a better deal than was reportedly offered to Sheed. That must mean either:

    1. They didn't make that offer to Sheed because they weren't really in the running anyway. Doubtful.
    2. They wanted McDyess more. Who knows.
    3. They figure they didn't get Sheed, they better get McDyess or their screwed.
    or 4. He's the best big left on the floor and they don't feel that they can afford to not land him.

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    or 4. He's the best big left on the floor and they don't feel that they can afford to not land him.
    Thats the same as #3

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