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42 and 15 is a great game regardless of who you play against.
Obviously it would have meant more if he had gotten that against SA, but 42 and 15 against NBA compe ion is still great
The guy said what has he done to make us think he can be good...i answered.
IM not saying he will be, just that he has the potential to be
42 and 15 is a great game regardless of who you play against.
Obviously it would have meant more if he had gotten that against SA, but 42 and 15 against NBA compe ion is still great
Assuming your claims are true, then that can only indicate one of two things. Either Phil Jackson knew Brown was not good enough to guard Brooks and so he didn't call his number, or Phil Jackson is a crappy coach that couldn't make the single most important adjustment of that series. I think it has a little more to do with you overrating Brown. BTW, with the dearth of point guards in the NBA free agent market, why was he bought for so cheap? Why was there no market for him?
Wow. Now you are REALLY digging yourself into a hole. I cannot remember how many times I heard the ole "regular season" argument from Mavs fans desperate to prop themselves up.
Didn't Orlando sweep the regular season against the Lakers? How relevant was that? Basing an argument on the regular season is suicidal. I guess its easier to forget a 39 point Finals loss actually happened than to try and defend how its not relevant...
The original point being argued is that Bynum is better than Manu in a playoff game.
You took up that argument. Now you say it's about "potential".
Typical circular argument from a Lakers fan.
Also had to point out this complete ownage of Mr. House that he never commented on.http://www.nba.com/games/20090504/HOULAL/boxscore.html
Playing time:
S. Brown - 12:30
J. Farmar - 02:53
NiceElNono.
Care to comment now, House?
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In 2008 Boston was clearly better.
If Boston had made the 09 finals, the Lakers would have had HC, which would have been huge, and im just saying the Lakers were better in 09, evidenced by beating Boston by 9 in LA and in Overtime in Boston. Do you know how hard OT in Boston would be? Considering Boston has perhaps the loudest Fans in the NBA.
The Orlando games both went down to the wire.
The LA-Boston games would not.
That being said LA v Boston in 09 would have gone 7 games IMO
LOL no dude i wasnt trying to say Bynum has more Impact than Ginobili. he doesntThe original point being argued is that Bynum is better than Manu in a playoff game.
You took up that argument. Now you say it's about "potential".
Typical circular argument from a Lakers fan.
Also had to point out this complete ownage of Mr. House that he never commented on.
Nice
Care to comment now, House?
Actually, we don't know who would have gotten HC since Garnett was out the last 25 games. I believe their records were identical when he went down. But it doesn't really matter. I think the better team always wins, regardless of HC. Maybe the Lakers would have won, but Boston would have been the definitive favorite if their team stayed healthy all season...
Boston failed to replace posey or brown...they would not been the favourites. Their bench had big holes that they can't did not replace..losing james posey was a big blow to their bench. They may of won it all but who knows...just like who knows if we would of been able to beat them with a healthly bynum or ariza...you can never tell. injuries are part of the game and it's tough to go through what if's.
What if SA/Boston/Houston/Orlando/Denver/Hawks etc didnt have major injury problems?
LA wouldn't own a 15 le.
Lakers are better than all those teams even when healthly....Boston is the only team you could argue would be able to beat the Lakers out of that group. Denver had injury problems? since when? and the Hawks? you even mentioning them makes you a clear Laker hater...hard to respect people's point of view when you are blinded by hate.
When did time reverse itself and this suddenly become 2006? That was about the last time Artest was better than RJ.
Artest is not a smart player
Artest takes too many stupid shots
Artest plays for Artest
Artest makes Wacko Rodman look like David Robinson
You guys think that he will be on his best behavior, but he is about to be thrown into the 2nd biggest media market on the biggest stage in the NBA.
And this is a guy who just threw up some freaky youtube trubute to Michael Jackson and expressed some kind of wacky prophecy that he will be joining Jackson some time next year.
I'm telling you the guy is going to make the Shaq/Kobe thing look tame.
RJ on the other hand will fit in perfectly with the Spurs, he is high character guy that does exactly what we need and we got him for basically nothing since we likely will be getting Bowen back.
True, their depth was not as great. But their play at PG was much better. You did see Rondo during the playoffs, right? He played as good as any PG in the playoffs -- a distinct advantage now for Boston that was not present two years ago.
I think Artest wants to be in LA more for the fame than for the ring. I think right now, Ariza is the better all-around defender. If u had a team with Ariza and Artest, who would u have guard the best perimeter player on the other team? IMHO, Ariza
May be, may be
The fact here is the number of shots
Parker shoot more than Fisher, Kobe than Manu, Artest sometimes shoot too much, Duncan = Gasol, McDyess = Bynum
In Point per Shot:
Parker 1.25 vs Fisher 1.18
Manu 1.39 vs Kobe 1.29
Jefferson 1.32 vs Artest 1.18
Gasol 1.46 vs Duncan 1.31
McDyess 1.14 vs Bynum 1.42
Every game
Parker > Fisher
Kobe > Manu
Gasol = Duncan
Sometimes
McDyes = Bynum
Jefferson > Artestand sometimes Artest > Jefferson
So:
The Lakers lost Ariza and won Artest
The Spurs won Jefferson and McDyes
Lakers 09 = Lakers 09-10
Spurs 09 < Spurs 09-10
If we are judging Bynum on his great potential then why are we not giving the same consideration to Blair and Mahamini? Blair is a rebounding machine, and Ian is a 6'11 280 lb athletic freak. I actually think Ian will be our starting center next year next to Tim. Ian had a freak accident last year and it pretty much cost him the whole season, well he is now healthy and will be turning some heads with his play.
Until proven otherwise, the Lakers still have the edge on everyone else. But the difference is a lot smaller.
Whoever wins the West is going to have to win 2 very tough series.
Bynum has proven he can dominate teams in this league..granted limited amount of games but he is still proven he can play at this level...those two havn't.
I'd like I vbookie on who will average more rebounds per minute next year, Blair or Bynum.
Who were those games against?
Wow. He had a stretch where he played good for 5 games. All in the regular season. Probably all against bad teams with no centers. Keep impressing us.
Let's see him do it for 82 games and the post season before you start acting like he's one of the best players in the NBA.
Carmelo was obviously injured the whole series, dunno how you missed it.
Lakers are better than all those teams even when healthly....Boston is the only team you could argue would be able to beat the Lakers out of that group. Denver had injury problems? since when? and the Hawks? you even mentioning them makes you a clear Laker hater...hard to respect people's point of view when you are blinded by hate.
No hate. Just facts. LA lucked into health while everyone else didn't. The end.
BTW, your team was NOT better than all of these teams. Their 16-7 record proved it. The 03 Spurs went 16-8 and Tim didn't have anyone near Pau or Odom's level.
Absolutely agree. This is about him marketing his show biz credit. He could have gotten more money and playing time in Houston.
Dominate the Clippers?
coming back does not mean returning to equal performance. knee reconstruction has a long history of robbing players of much of their athleticism.
mcdyess certainly plays above the rim still but if you compare his time in denver when he could leap out of the building to his time after the surgery and its night and day.
you basically have 10 games of him playing and a whole bunch of knee injuries. in two years hes dislocated his knee cap and tore his MCL. In both cases his recovery took longer than expected and when he did finally come back he still wasn't healthy enough to play worth half a flip highlighted by his benching for sucking.
Stability issues and slow recoveries do not bode well for future performance. why do you think blair fell to the second round? He fell after 2 years of good health because knee issues like that have a history of crippling players.
This is even before you consider that hes an unproven talent nitwithstanding Laker Koolaid claims of ten games of dominance.
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