Name one NBA GM who would take McDyess over Bynum. Name one.
I think more dominos will fall in the Spurs big man quest.
McDyess may be more of an insurance poicy at this point. The big upside could come from Haislip and, possibly, other aquisitions as the summer (and season) progress. I would agree, however, that the Spurs need more length and athleticism on defense than McDyess is likely to provide.
You have downplayed everything the spurs have done this off-season and mainly have payed attention to anything they have done and followed them
sorta like a spurs fan. Why?
And if you're that confident about the Lakers, why bother posting or commenting about what the spurs do?
I mean, if they're so good...
But yes, lets go ask the piston fans what they think..
The Spurs made great moves. They did the best they could do. I'm not denigrating that.
I'm just injecting reality into idiots that think the Spurs are now on the Laker's level. They aren't. They are still a big frontcourt piece away from really competing with the top dogs. Unfortunately getting quality frontcourt players is hard to do, they aren't a dime a dozen like SF's in the NBA are.
Welcome to a class organization Antonio. I believe that you have made the correct choice. We're glad to have you.
with Bynum's price tag??? I doubt all GM will get him over McDyess...
And his health. He's pretty fragile for a young guy.
dr. house is intentionally downsizing what mcdyess brings to the table. he is a solid pick and roll defender and gets out to the perimeter better than thomas ever did and is a much better rebounder than kurt as well. the spurs were terrible on the boards last year and the addition of a 10 rebound a game player coupled with picking up blair will dramatically improve the spurs on the glass this season. there was no post player the spurs had last year other than tim that you knew could get you a double/double anytime they were out there and now you have 2 who can do that as well as another who can deliver a solid PER that would translate to a double/double.
R.C. Buford
Even though I know ESPN discredits and dismisses alot of what the Spurs do but Im still amazed that they havnt reported on this yet.
http://www.freep.com/article/2009070...sz/5IV8M9rs%3D
'Dice' rolls along to San Antonio
Antonio McDyess is no longer a Piston.
McDyess, who despite being 34 was among the most sought players on the market this summer, reached a deal with the Spurs and is expected to sign this week, team spokesman Cliff Puchalski said.
Terms of the deal were not disclosed, but the Spurs had their full midlevel exception, worth about $5.6 million this season, to offer the 6-9 forward. McDyess spent five seasons with Detroit, which officially lost Rasheed Wallace on Wednesday when the veteran forward signed with Boston.
McDyess averaged 9.6 points and 9.8 rebounds in his 14th season. His rebounding average last season was the third highest of his career.
As for the Pistons -- with Charlie Villanueva, Kwame Brown and Jason Maxiell the only big men on the current roster -- the team may look to free agents like Mavericks power forward Brandon Bass or to trade to add size.
Obviously you don't watch a lot of McDyess. His jumper extends out to 22 feet. He's also capable of hitting from a lot more angles than Thomas.
He's substantially more mobile to boot, and this keeps him out of foul trouble for the most part whereas KT usually found himself needing to sit before half due to getting his third.
Prayers aren't needed really. Ron Ron is an implosion waiting to happen. It's only a matter of time till Kobe tries his primadonna on him and gets on his nerves. Shaq was mellow. Artest will go Compton on his ass.
I disagree that the Spurs need another superstar frontcourt player to be on the Lakers level.
Parker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fisher
Mason <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Bryant
Jefferson = Artest
Duncan > Pau
Dice < Bynum...though I could argue the health issues even things out here.
And a healthy Manu coming off the bench. Seems pretty damn even to me.
LOL at thinking that the Lakers are on some unattainably high level.
We are talking about a team that has trouble defending quick point guards.
We are talking about a team that has trouble playing rough, hustling teams.
We are talking about a team that struggled against a Rockets team that was missing their best player for half the series.
We are talking about a team that went through the playoffs in very unimpressive fashion.
Yeah, the Lakers deserved the championship last year because they were the best team, but they were in no way, shape or form as far apart from the compe ion as you make it out to be.
So if we say... "Wow ur right!" Will you just go away and get back to rearranging your Kobe, Kareem, Magic, Shaq Fu action figure collection. Seriously dude... every now and again trolls come in and say something enlightening (i.e. Piston fan), but you come in and pretty much fit the Faker stereo-type.
Just like when you guys landed Malone and The Glove in the banner 2003-2004 off season. The Lakers won the offseason and were "unbeatable." Malone was a lock for his elusive ring. Championships ain't won on paper... Malone should have gone to Detroit in 2003 if he wanted a ring.
Jamstone made this nice little tidbit of a point:
McDyess
30.1 mpg
9.6 ppg
9.8 rpg
1.3 apg
51.0% FG
Odom
29.7 mpg
11.3 ppg
8.2 rpg
2.6 apg
49.2% FG
How interesting. So Odom is a "non-factor" just like McDyess!
Listen House, LA is in for a rude awakening. They have continued to delude themselves about Bynum being a franchise player. So far all he's shown is that he sucks. 12 million per year and he gives you about what Josh Powell gives you.
LA faced teams with mediocre frontcourts during their playoff run -
Utah: No decent bigmen defenders + Okur injured
Orlando: One great big (Howard) + a bunch of SFs
Houston: no Yao, no Deke but LA made Chuck Hayes look like an All-NBA defender
Denver: Decent big man rotation. Naturally LA made Nene looked like an All-NBA player who could score at will; heck even KMart looked like a capable player against them
We all remember KG/Perk/Powe/PJ Brown ting all over LA's frontcourt in 08. LA dodged a huge bullet when KG went down this year.
Now on to this year: You've got LA with the same soft (but skilled) big man rotation of Gasol/Odom/Bynum. Boston reloads with KG/Perk/Wallace. Cleveland will field Shaq/Z/Varejao. SA improves with Duncan/Dice/Mahinmi. Dallas will have Dampier/Dirk/Marion. LA has yet to prove that they can overcome a team with a tough and deep frontcourt. If Landry, Scola and Hayes can outplay your big man rotation twice in a series, you still have a lot to prove.
Now Bynum may improve and that'll change the equation. But that hasn't happened for 2 years now, so we'll have to see it to believe it.
You're questioning Bynum yet you add Mahinmi as an improvement? I can be a Spurs homer too but not to that extent.
Yeah, Mahinmi has a ways to go before he warrants those sorts of accolades, but I thought the rest of Warlord's post was spot on.
Bynum put up 6/4 in the playoffs after 2 years of hype. He got benched or pulled out because of foul trouble repeatedly.
Mahinmi hasn't even been on the floor, so we really don't know. In fact maybe Mahinmi won't pan out. Maybe it will be Blair. Maybe it will be Haislip. We don't know. We do know that Bynum is lazy and robbing the Lakers blind.
If Chuck Hayes can play big minutes in 2 Houston victories over LA, I'm feeling good about our set of backup bigs.
If we trade our deadweight (Fin, Bonner) for another big man, it's not even close.
I've been saying this since the playoffs..
the Lakers are VERY overrated..did you guys actually pay attention to their compe ion?..
first round..they play a Utah team with chemistry issues that was ravaged with injuries, and they were missing their starting C/3rd best player for pretty much the entire series(only had one game where he played more than 13 minutes)..Okur was one of their few matchup advantages, since he would have been able to pull one of their big men out of the paint..
2nd round..they play a Houston team missing Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady, and Dikembe Mutombo..Ron Artest was absolutely horrible once Yao went down, and that was their #1 option..their #2 option was Aaron Brooks LOL, and their go-to-guy down low was Luis Scola..their defensive big man rotation was 6'5 Chuck Hayes, 6'8 Carl Landry, and 6'9 Luis Scola..
third round..they finally play a good team in Denver..they get 2 wins off the SAME EXACT IN BOUNDS PLAY, involving the same players..Denver is WCF talent, but clearly one of the lowest IQ teams in the NBA, as everybody knows..losing 2 games off in bounds is beyond ridiculous..
the finals..they play an Orlando team that is pretty much missing it's all-star PG, and he was arguably hurting the team..they get a win off Courtney Lee's missed wide open floater, and missed wide open alley-oop at the buzzer..then they get a win from Howard's inability to make 1 free throw that would have ended the game, and then allowing Fisher to make a pull-up 3 to send it into OT..
This is also ignoring the fact that Boston was missing their best player..
very unimpressive le run, similar to our le run in 2007..
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