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    MB found the post. Awesome work. So it seems someone is pretty high on him.

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    To me, you move a player if he's holding someone better back. Right now that would be Bonner and/or Haislip. I don't get it. Everyone and their dog is sick of Bonner, wants the Spurs to 'go young', be aggressive, etc...With the Spurs signing McDyess, you'd think the board would be even more in favor of the Spurs being aggressive in giving their young bigman talent a shot.

    It's not like Mahinmi had demonstrated that he couldn't handle the league over the course of at least a 20 game stretch. Even then that would be too early to give up on a young talented athletic bigman who was one of the best players in the NBDL. Especially when you consider that the Spurs are looking to break early and often, at least during the regular season. Mahinmi is tailor made for that kind of game.

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    This is a load of horse , GHILL was putting up 20ppg on some nights when parker was out injured earlier in the season, and when he return ghill minutes went down and pop stopped him from playing as point in favor for mason. Ghill also had some nice defensive assignments also...

    2nd worst player, who let the attention horse out
    He was referring to Hill's summer league play last year, not his play during the NBA regular season. Remember how many posters were blasting the Spurs drafting Hill over CDR, Chalmers, etc. after seeing his horrendous shooting performance in the summer league?

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    Am I right in thinking the Spurs carry 5 bigs on the 12 man active roster?

    If so then - Duncan, McDyess, Blair, Bonner, Haislip, Mahinmi-- that is 6 players. IMO they need to dump Bonner and go with the young guys. Haislip is way cheaper than Bonner as a 5th big.

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    Yes, it looks like Bonner's days are numbered in SA, especially after the Haislip signing.

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    Ian Mahinmi's place in the D-league record book:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...er_season.html

    PER: 10th highest in D-league history
    Defensive Win Shares: 26th
    Offensive Win Shares: 29th
    Win Shares: 16th
    True Shooting %: 4th
    FG%: 10th

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    Ian Mahinmi's place in the D-league record book:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...er_season.html

    PER: 10th highest in D-league history
    Defensive Win Shares: 26th
    Offensive Win Shares: 29th
    Win Shares: 16th
    True Shooting %: 4th
    FG%: 10th
    Mahinmi's career PER is 23. That PER would be second in the career list. Your link is season leaders.

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    Did the waiving Mahinmi idea just come out of left field?

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    Mahinmi's career PER is 23. That PER would be second in the career list. Your link is season leaders.
    Ah, yes, just a full point behind Courtney Sims. Also, if we are are going by career D League stats, then Ian drops to 87th in offensive win shares, and 86th in win shares. In the D league.

    Though I would be willing to bet that he does have a shot at a better career in the nba than his statistical twins in the D-league, Sims and Nick Fazekas.

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    Did the waiving Mahinmi idea just come out of left field?
    I don't think anyone is saying we should waive Ian. When I said ditch Ian, I meant that emotionally we should ditch the hope that he is going to be a solid contributor. Even then I think we should let him play out some if not all of his contract to see if he can prove me wrong. I give him about a 3% shot of ever cracking the spurs rotation (barring injuries of course.) I just don't think he has what it takes to take his game to the next level. Tentative is about the worst thing you can say about a big man in the nba, and Ian personifies the word.

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    You're full of . He wasn't "tentative" with the Toros.

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    After being out a year with an injury, I don't think we should expect a whole lot from Ian in summer league. He's getting his legs back. Everybody needs to settle down a bit.

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    2 years ago he played sparingly with the Spurs early in the season and showed some great, brief moments with blocks and jump hooks in the lane. I thought they should have brought him back later in the season just to see what he could do. But as is often the case with the coaches, we wanted to bring him along slow. And then the next season he gets injured for the whole year.

    I think it's been bad timing as far as his injuries and the timing of when we could have used him. While he was putting up incredible D League stats it seemed odd to me that we didn't give him more of a chance on the Spurs when we could. It's not like our backup bigs were that great that year either.

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    ah i am so happy! just found a site with archived summer league games on it. i was just about to purchase that nba summer league plan but screw that!

    can't wait to watch that spurs/hornets game in a bit.

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    ah i am so happy! just found a site with archived summer league games on it. i was just about to purchase that nba summer league plan but screw that!

    can't wait to watch that spurs/hornets game in a bit.
    What's the website? I'd LOVE to see that game.

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    Ian Mahinmi’s Movement



    I just re-watched Sunday’s game, and my thoughts on the game run along the same line as Graydon’s, with one exception. Unlike Graydon, whose assessment found Ian Mahinmi lacking, I thought the Spurs’ big man played well. But of course the difference in our opinion owes everything to context–Graydon was evaluating Ian Mahinmi in the context of the game (his piece was a game recap, after all), but I watched the game in context of the previous two seasons. So don’t see this as a competing opinion so much as an alternate perspective.


    Wayne Vore caught up with Ian Mahinmi after the game, and he confirmed what many of us assumed true: Sunday’s game was Mahinmi’s first compe ive scrimmage in a year.

    I have watched Mahinmi play on at least a dozen occasions. Probably more. With that exposure as a backdrop, I can say that Mahinmi looked rusty on Sunday. He was a shadow of his pre-injury self, but–and this is the important part–didn’t seemed hobbled. He moved well.

    In the past, Mahinmi has seemed lackadaisical showing up top or, say, sealing the baseline with a crisp rotation. He did those things fairly well on Sunday. He drew an important charge late in the game, and on another possession he altered a shot that led to a George Hill block. His value to the Spurs’ roster is not as a scorer–Duncan, McDyess, Blair, Bonner and, perhaps, Haislip can bring offense. The best thing Mahinmi could provide for San Antonio is a player who is able to compliment or spell Duncan for short stints. Functioning within the system is 75% of that struggle. I was encouraged by what I saw.

    The best way to think of Ian Mahinmi as a Spur is Francisco Elson with more talent and a higher ceiling. But truth be told, he’s not far from Elson-like production right now.

    And while it’s undeniable that Mahinmi was a little bit of a ghost on offense in his first game off the shelf, remember he’s shown a reliable offensive repertoire in the past. During his season with the Toros, Mahinmi dominated several games with a variety of post moves and good roll work off screens. As the summer grinds forward, I suspect we’ll see some of that from Mahinmi. On Sunday, the Spurs did not do a good job of getting him involved.

    Let me put it this way: we won’t know if Mahinmi will crack the rotation until late in the preseason. It’s going to take all summer for him to kick off the rust. Don’t pass judgement too quickly. These things take time.

    I’m already convinced that George Hill and DeJuan Blair will be part of the regular season rotation, and not without significant contribution. Much like Mahinmi, I watched Malik Hairston carefully when he was with the Toros. By the end of this game, it was obvious to me that he’s taken at least one significant step forward this offseason. He logged a lot of minutes at power forward in college and didn’t seem comfortable on the perimeter for the better part of last season. That’s changed. Unless he lays an egg over the balance of the summer, Hairston is a near lock to make the team, and he has an outside shot at the minutes available behind Richard Jefferson. With Hill, Blair and Hairston, the Spurs already have a good idea of what they have to work with. They need to dig a little deeper with Mahinmi.

    Going forward, I’d like to see Coach Newman call Ian’s number early and often. This has the duel advantage of working George Hill through multiple ball screen scenarios each game. Both players need to find a steady rhythm of read, recognize, and react. Going through those motions will shake the injury rust loose.

    In the meantime, it’s best to evaluate Mahinmi against the continuum that is the offseason. It’s a process. Right now, Mahinmi is merely a figure standing against a distant horizon. He’s out of focus. His task this summer is to gradually emerge in the foreground. Put simply, I’ll place far more stock in his last two summer league games than his initial two, and October is more important than July.

    http://www.48minutesof .com/2009/...nmis-movement/

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    You know, timvp, getting back to McClinton... he was tentative but I think I saw McClinton's contribution a bit differently when he was running the team in the 3rd qtr.. It was the one time Jack was effective. Not that he has grat PG skills, but he was given several high screen plays and he did a nice drive and kick to Hairston for a 3-ball and another feed to Malik for a jumper, plus he got to the line for 2 FTs. The Spurs actally saw their brief lead expand during that time.

    I see him as a scorer, not a playmaker, but he did a couple of nice things when he had the ball at the top.

    I believe if Jack can knock down a couple of early jumpers in the next game, his confidence will build and we'll see less hesitation and tentativeness in his
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    This may be premature, but does anyone have any links for the game tonight?

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    This may be premature, but does anyone have any links for the game tonight?
    http://summerleague.istreamplanet.co...er/default.asp

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    You know, timvp, getting back to McClinton... he was tentative but I think I saw McClinton's contribution a bit differently when he was running the team in the 3rd qtr.. It was the one time Jack was effective. Not that he has grat PG skills, but he was given several high screen plays and he did a nice drive and kick to Hairston for a 3-ball and another feed to Malik for a jumper, plus he got to the line for 2 FTs. The Spurs actally saw their brief lead expand during that time.

    I see him as a scorer, not a playmaker, but he did a couple of nice things when he had the ball at the top.

    I believe if Jack can knock down a couple of early jumpers in the next game, his confidence will build and we'll see less hesitation and tentativeness in his
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    I saw the exact same thing, he started to play well when he was playing the the PG spot. He had some nice drive and kick outs to Hairston for 3's in the corner.

    If he is more comfortable at the 1 in the NBA, maybe the Spurs should develop as a 1 instead of a primary shooting guard

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    1. Mahinmi hasn't played in a long time. He needs to knock off the rust. These players aren't much different than D-League guys, so he'll be okay, at least here.

    2. McClinton hasn't played in an environment where he's not the main guy, and where the defense is much faster and athletic. He needs to adjust.

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    The best way to think of Ian Mahinmi as a Spur is Francisco Elson with more talent and a higher ceiling. But truth be told, he’s not far from Elson-like production right now.[/URL]
    That's what I've never understood about the Elson-basher/Mahinmi-supporters. The two players are very similar -- slight Afro-European players who can run but lack physical play and, possibly, "basketball IQ." Elson made significant contributions to the '07 le run. The Spurs soured on him the next year, but it's not like their bigman situation has had any credibility since with the guys they kept.

    The Spurs still need a long athlete who can run, defend, rebound (and, God forbid, "rotate.") Hopefully Mahinmi (or someone else) can be that guy.

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    The first game of San Antonio's 2009 summer league action resulted in a 92-86 win over the New Orleans Hornets. The Spurs were rocky on both ends of the court for the first three and a half quarters but really locked in to pull out the victory.

    The Hornets got good efforts out of their starting guard tandem of Darren Collison and Marcus Thornton. Julian Wright also flashed his potential with a number of talented plays.

    While the Spurs had a lack of cohesiveness for much of the game, that was to be expected due to the limited number of practices. Expect the team to play better as the week progresses.

    George Hill

    31 minutes, 25 points, four rebounds, three assists, four turnovers
    7-for-13 from the floor, 0-for-2 on three-pointers, 11-for-11 at the line


    Entering his second summer league, George Hill looked much improved over last season. The aspect that stood out the most was his increased confidence level. Hill played like he knew he was in charge and paced himself well throughout the contest.

    In the first three quarters, Hill didn't have many opportunities to run the pick-and-roll but that changed in the fourth quarter. Down the stretch, he took control by attacking New Orleans' defense off the pick-and-roll and either created for himself or a teammate. The biggest shot of the game -- a three-pointer by Malik Hairston -- was created off of a Hill pick-and-roll.

    When Hill shot from perimeter, everything about his release looked improved. His balance was better, he took his time and he put more arc on the ball. If he can add a jumper from off the dribble, his effectiveness in the halfcourt offense would greatly improve.

    Defensively, Hill was hit and miss. Sometimes he seemed to be going through the motion, but at other times he illustrated his elite potential at that end of the court -- especially in the last few minutes of the game.

    Hill still needs to work on beating the halfcourt trap with the dribble, making the smart pass in transition and keeping his foot on the accelerator at all times but overall this was a very positive summer league debut. He looked like he was the best player on the court and did so while playing within his capabilities.

    DeJuan Blair

    22 minutes, 13 points, 10 rebounds, one steal, two turnovers
    4-for-7 from the field, 5-for-6 from the line


    This guy is simply a beast on the boards. There's no other way to put it. Last year, he averaged 18.1 rebounds per 40 minutes at Pittsburgh. In his first summer league game, Blair pulled down 18.2 rebounds per 40 minutes. Even more impressive is the fact that he pulled down 10 rebounds in 22 minutes, while the rest of the team pulled down 18 rebounds in 178 minutes.

    Blair has a wide body, long arms and a pair of giant suction cups for hands. He also has impeccable timing and isn't afraid to throw his weight around. While summer league isn't the NBA, this is undoubtedly a very good sign that his rebound rate in college wasn't a fluke.

    Offensively, Blair had a few good moves. He can jump quickly and already has a crafty feel around the rim that allows him to get his shot off despite being undersized. Blair also displayed a smooth face-up jumper. He had a few possessions where he tried to do too much and his size became a liability but that is to be expected as he adjusts.

    On the defensive end, Blair needs a lot of work. His pick-and-roll defense was sub par and he was slow to get back to defend the rim. It will probably take most of his rookie season to get him up to speed defensively.

    All in all, there's no reason not to be excited about San Antonio's first pick in the 2009 draft. He appears to be at least as good as advertised.

    Ian Mahinmi

    25 minutes, eight points, four rebounds, one blocked shot, seven fouls
    1-for-3 from the field, 6-for-6 at the line


    Ian Mahinmi's stats don't look very good but there were some bright spots. Compared to last year's summer league action, Mahinmi was much more energetic and played with more heart. He also had a very good move late from out on the perimeter to give the Spurs a two-point lead.

    That said, the Spurs need to see much more production out of Mahinmi if he's to remain in their long-term plans. His upper body looks stronger but his lower body remains extremely skinny. He's not a graceful athlete and he can get pushed around down under the basket.

    In the forthcoming games, Mahinmi needs to translate some of his energy into positive contributions. He had quality moves and was putting up a fight but he rarely finished off a possession well. Considering that he's been out of action for a year, rust had to be expected. It'd be fair to wait a couple of games before counting him out.

    Malik Hairston

    29 minutes, 16 points, one rebound, one assist
    7-for-11 from the field, 2-for-2 on three-pointers


    It was a story of two halves for Malik Hairston. In the first half Hairston played poorly on both ends of the court. He appeared destined to another first game disappointment. Then came the second half.

    After going 0-for-3 in the first half, Hairston poured in 11 points in the first four minutes of the third stanza on 5-for-5 shooting. He came out with much more tenacity and more confidence in his outside shot. With 18 seconds remaining in the game, Hairston's three-pointer gave the Spurs a four point advantage.

    Seeing Hairston drain outside jumpers is a very good sign. He struggled shooting in summer league and in the NBA last year. To survive in San Antonio's system, Hairston has to show the type of shooting he provided on Sunday afternoon.

    Defensively, Hairston had some good moments but he has a lot of room to improve. He was playing too close in man-to-man defense and allowed the opponent to beat him off the dribble. He also didn't crash the defensive glass well enough.

    On offense, Hairston was best when spotting up or driving the ball directly to the basket. His ballhandling looked extremely shaky when he tried to create off the dribble. He also clogged the lane too much at times when he prematurely tried to hit the offensive boards.

    Hairston's 16 second half points were a big part of the victory. If he can give a more consistent effort and clean up some of the smaller aspects of his game, he'll give himself a very good chance of making the Spurs regular season lineup.

    James Gist

    23 minutes, four points, three rebounds, one steal, one blocked shot
    1-for-6 from the floor, 2-for-4 at the line


    Last year in summer league, James Gist looked like a stud in the making. His 2009 summer league campaign didn't start off nearly as hot. He looked worse in this game than he did at any point last year.

    It appeared as if Gist was trying to make the adjustment to play more out on the perimeter but he ended up looking uncomfortable. He hesitated on a few jumpers and didn't look like he was sure where he was supposed to be on the court.

    Defensively and on the boards, I thought Gist looked rather weak. He got pushed around and his physicality was missing in action. He wasn't making up for his lack of bulk with his athleticism like he did last year.

    It's not time to push the panic button but Gist needs to show a lot more if he wants to have a chance at making the team. Right now, a second year in Europe appears like it could do him some good.

    Jack McClinton

    16 minutes, two points, two rebounds, two turnovers
    0-for-2 from the floor, 2-for-2 at the line


    There's no way to sugarcoat it -- Jack McClinton was really bad in his summer league debut in every aspect of the game. He didn't do anything offensively, played poor defense and just didn't look like an NBA player.

    Offensively, McClinton played like he didn't know when and where to pick his spots. Constant second-guessing caused him to do next to nothing on the offensive end. In his few minutes running the team, he proved that he's not much of a point guard prospect.

    On defense, McClinton's lack of size was obvious. Fellow second round pick Marcus Thorton ate him alive a number of times. McClinton is too small to be much help on the boards but he needs to do a much better job of boxing out and staying between his man and the basket.

    The good news is that a lot of McClinton's struggles can be attributed to rookie jitters. If he can settle in, nail a few open shots and realize he can be aggressive when looking for his shot, there's a chance he can bounce back. And as we saw last year with Hairston, a poor summer league opener isn't the end of the world.

    Romel Beck

    24 minutes, 13 points, three rebounds, one assist, one steal
    5-for-10 from the field, 3-for-3 at the line


    Aggression isn't a lacking trait for Romel Beck. From the moment he stepped onto the court, he was ready to fire. When it comes to a polished offensive game and a sweet outside stroke, Beck might lead the team in both areas.

    The problem with Beck is he has a few glaring holes in his game. First of all, he's a poor ballhandler for a perimeter player. He dribbles with a high bounce and doesn't change directions well. Beck also doesn't have a good feel when it comes to passing the ball or spotting the open man.

    Defensively, Beck's slight frame hurts him. He gives good effort on that end but he gets pushed around and bumped out of position with regularity. He also appears to have below average quickness.

    Beck could earn a spot in training camp but he'll have to show that his ability to put the ball in the hole outshines the rest of his flaws.

    Stephane Lasme

    10 minutes, three points, one assist, one blocked shot, two turnovers
    1-for-1 from the field, 1-for-1 on three-pointers


    Stephane Lasme has changed his game from the last time I saw him play. On the offensive end, he was trying to play much further out on the perimeter. Although he hit a three-pointer, he didn't look too comfortable out of the lane.

    Defensively, he wasn't helping out much. He went for a number of blocks but he was playing soft and didn't help out on the glass at all. For Lasme to become an NBA player, he'll have to figure out how to mix in his elite shotblocking ability with the rest of his defensive responsibilities.

    Alonzo Gee

    11 minutes, four points, one rebound
    1-for-2 from the field, 2-for-2 from the line


    Though he appears to be a very good athlete, Alonzo Gee didn't show many perimeter skills. He played much more like an undersized power forward rather than a small forward. There were a number of time he didn't make the simple pass.

    On the defensive end, he showed some promise. He has a good combination of strength, quickness and leaping ability. Keep an eye on his defensive play the rest of the week to see if he can possibly win a spot in training camp due to his potential on D.

    Donnell Taylor

    Nine minutes, four points, one assist, one steal, one blocked shot, one turnover
    1-for-5 from the field, 2-for-2 at the line


    The backup to George Hill in the summer league opener was Donnell Taylor. Unfortunately, he played the position like a poor man's Roger Mason, Jr. -- which may be appropriate because Taylor and Mason were teammates with the Washington Wizards.

    Taylor struggled handling the ball, rarely made the right pass and overall just looked like a 6-foot-5 shooting guard playing out of position. Will Squeaky Johnson get a shot as the backup point guard or will Taylor keep the job? Stay tuned.

    WOW! This has to be one of the best posts I've ever read! Do you work for ESPN or Hoopshype? great work!

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