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    Well, TP has never seemed able to play that many minutes. At least not like a Kobe Bryant. He is not good at pacing himself throughout games. Now, with his new increased role in the Spurs offense, he looked very tired last year at times in the playoffs having to carry that burden (although he handled it well). Hopefully with people healthy and the new additions it won't be so difficult.

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    Thank the basketball gods that this thing is over and Parker wasn't the one to get hurt. I still don't understand why these players risk so much to play in these games but whatever. Congrats to France for looking better than previous years.

    Now it's up to Pop to figure out how to give TP adequate rest so that he's strong for the playoff push . . .
    Thank God they are not risking in the NBA

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    Nine weeks of rest for ten months of play? That's not much of rest ... especially since he just came off playing two games in less than 24 hours. Add in the travel and the effort he had to give being the best player on his team and I can't believe he's as rested right now as he's been in years past.
    TP played his last 2 games thursday and saturday. That's 2 games in 3 days.

    The FNT camp started July 14, the Spurs were eliminated from the playoffs April 28. This is 77 days of rest... 11 weeks (+about 2 weeks because of his "famous" injury). He will have some more weeks of rest now.

    Oh, and don't start with the travels... you know why.

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    TP played his last 2 games thursday and saturday. That's 2 games in 3 days.

    The FNT camp started July 14, the Spurs were eliminated from the playoffs April 28. This is 77 days of rest... 11 weeks (+about 2 weeks because of his "famous" injury). He will have some more weeks of rest now.

    Oh, and don't start with the travels... you know why.
    Why?

    NBA players in the offseason should just sit on thiet a$$e$ and do nothing more then sit on their a$$e$.
    They can't do the things they like, swimming, riding a bike etc. and you want them to represent their country? Something they are pround of? Get serious man !!!!

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    Nine weeks of rest for ten months of play? That's not much of rest ... especially since he just came off playing two games in less than 24 hours. Add in the travel and the effort he had to give being the best player on his team and I can't believe he's as rested right now as he's been in years past.
    It's sure that today TP should be tired after the Eurobasket like he is tired after 2 weeks of regular season and he has 10 days to rest before the start of the training camp. In April, after months of NBA games, these 2 weeks of Eurobasket will be meaningless.

    What is important in an offseason is to have enough time off to allow the body to heal from his nagging injuries and to be ready mentally wise for a new NBA season. This year TP has had more time off than in the previous offseasons with 10 weeks truly off.

    Whether or not you can't believe it, TP has been able to rest more this summer than he had in the years past.

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    Why?

    NBA players in the offseason should just sit on thiet a$$e$ and do nothing more then sit on their a$$e$.
    They can't do the things they like, swimming, riding a bike etc. and you want them to represent their country? Something they are pround of? Get serious man !!!!
    huh ?????

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    SARCASM RAGE



    In polish borads I do not have to explain sarcasm. why do I have to do it in here every single time I use one?

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    And yes well it was towards timvp and rest of guys that negates players playing (in the offseason)

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    And yes well it was towards timvp and rest of guys that negates players playing (in the offseason)
    So do it quoting the right people.

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    Good news, Ian Mahinmi is playing right now !

    It's a really really friendly game.

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    Buzzer beater from half court by Antoine Diot just before halftime.
    France 34 Croatia 24

    Diot 15 pts in 14 min
    De Colo 12 pts in 14 min
    Mahinmi 4 pts 3 reb in 12 min

    The young guys are doing well in a very friendly game.

    Tony Parker and Florent Piétrus are not playing (rest) and Boris Diaw is injured.

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    14-0 for Croatia at the end of the 3rd and start of the 4th.

    Now the 2 teams are playing for real. 5 min to play France 57 Croatia 53.

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    France win 69-62.

    France with only 1 loss and 8 wins finish in 5th position at the 2009 Eurobasket.

    The Spurs should draft Antoine Diot next year, he's gonna be an awesome player.

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    So do it quoting the right people.
    I did

    It was better to quote you with the adequat phrase

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    It wasn't a that bad game for a meaningless, end of tournament game. It was nice to see Ian playing even if he was quite bad.

    So, end of the summer for FNT. To me, it was a positive one with good results and a better game than in previous years. It's a good basis to build something with 2012 Olympic games as final goal. The biggest negative is Boris' injury.

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    If Spain wins today, France will be the only team with just one defeat and they are fifth. This is just stupid.

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    Well, it's not a league, it's a tournament. Whether you like it or not.

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    If Spain wins today, France will be the only team with just one defeat and they are fifth. This is just stupid.
    Yeah but those who made the tournament rules could not have forseen the fact that the best team of the tournament (Spain) would finish 4th of his group...

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    and group E was weak compared to group F.

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    and games against Greece, Turkey and Croatia were not exactly that compe ive and as meaningfull

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    The Spurs should draft Antoine Diot next year, he's gonna be an awesome player.
    I agree that the kid was way better than I expected the whole summer.
    If he can confirm his potential on the Euroleague level (his team will play the qualifying rounds in few days) he could very well be drafted next year, but I don't think he will be NBA ready until 2011.

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    http://www.lequipe.fr/Basket/breves2...t-le-coup.html

    Florent Pietrus : «On est vraiment content même si on n'a rien ramené cette année. On sait que l'année prochaine, on pourra ramener quelque chose. Collectivement, on a vraiment franchi un pas. Au bout, ça fait super long mais ca valait le coup de se sacrifier pendant deux mois parce que le basket français était dans une situation assez compliquée. On a ramené de cette campagne deux compé ions, la Turquie l'année prochaine et la Lituanie dans deux ans.»

    Ronny Turiaf : «Ca fait du bien de voir les pe s copains sur le terrain en train de se faire plaisir, d'avoir du succès. On joue vraiment les uns pour les autres, personne ne tente de tirer son épingle du jeu. On se met vraiment au service de l'équipe. C'est pour ça qu'il y a toute cette joie, tout cet engouement pour chacun. Je suis content. Huit victoires et une défaite, je pense que vous allez être gentils avec nous...»

    Ian Mahinmi : «C'est vrai que ce n'était pas forcément facile du fait de ma blessure. Je n'ai pas pu m'entraîner, ça fait deux semaines que je ne cours pas trop. Ce n'est pas facile d'être lancé comme ça mais ça m'a fait plaisir. J'ai joué vingt minutes, ça fait du bien. Je n'ai pas eu de douleur mais de l'appréhension au début. Après, ça a été. Maintenant, il faut me concentrer sur ma prochaine saison (avec les San Antonio Spurs), qui est très importante.»
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    Diot : «Un été de dingue»
    Début août, après l'Euro espoirs, Antoine Diot devait partir en vacances à Djerba. Mais il a été appelé en urgence en équipe de France. En un tour en main et à seulement vingt ans, le meneur du Mans s'est affirmé comme un Bleu incontournable. Il commente cette trajectoire fulgurante et son avenir.

    «Antoine Diot, l'Euro vous a-t-il changé en tant que joueur ?
    Je ne pense pas avoir changé ma façon de jouer. J'ai pris de l'expérience et de la confiance surtout. La compé ion avec les moins de vingt ans (l'Euro espoirs en juillet, où la France a terminé deuxième) m'a fait énormément de bien. J'ai retrouvé une position de leader, je me suis libéré. Je suis arrivé dans cette équipe en étant serein et en ayant confiance en moi. En plus, mes coéquipiers et le coach m'ont fait confiance tout de suite. Obligatoirement ça aide. J'ai évolué au cours de (...) cet été de dingue. Je ne me suis pas arrêté. J'ai eu trois jours entre les deux compé ions, mais je ne regrette rien, j'ai gagné une médaille avec les moins de vingt ans et on finit cinquième d'un Euro.

    Vous reprenez dès les jours qui viennent avec Le Mans. Ne risquez-vous pas de payer le prix de cet Euro chargé ?
    On a tout de suite des matches importants, le match des champions (Le champion de France, l'ASVEL, contre le vainqueur de la Coupe de France, Le Mans, dimanche prochain), le tour de qualification de l'Euroligue dès la semaine prochaine. Ça va être difficile mais je ne suis pas spécialement fatigué. Je le sens un peu sur les fins de match mais je n'ai pas de pépin physique. Avec du repos, en gérant un peu les entraînements, je pense que ça devrait passer.

    Au Mans, l'entraîneur J.D. Jackson a recruté un meneur plus organisateur que scoreur. Vous aurez donc l'occasion de confirmer vos progrès au shoot.
    Zach (Wright) est un meneur vachement passeur, qui joue plus en défense, qui fait un peu de tout, mais qui n'est pas énormément scoreur. On en avait parlé plus ou moins avec J.D. Il a énormément de confiance en moi, donc je pense que c'est un peu dans cette optique, une espèce de transition.

    Où vous situez vous dans l'équipe de France à ce jour ?
    J'espère être dans l'avenir le back up (remplaçant) de Tony (Parker). On peut même jouer ensemble. On l'a fait, on se complète plutôt bien. C'est important de garder ça. Maintenant, je sais que tant que Tony sera là, je serai son back up, que la hiérarchie sera toujours la même pour moi. Je l'accepte, je suis vraiment content de jouer à ses côtés, même derrière lui. Aux entraînements, il m'apprend beaucoup. Je suis content d'être là. Ça se passe très bien.»

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    Florent Pietrus: "We're really glad even if we didn't win anything this year. We know that next year, we'll be able to win something. Team-wise, we really took a step forward. In the end, it's very long but it was worth sacrificing ourselves for 2 months because French basketball was in a rather complex situation. We brought two tourneys from this one: Turkey next year and Lithuania in two years."

    Ronny Turiaf: "It feels good to see the buddies on the court having fun, being successful. We really play for the others, nobody's trying to take over. We really give ourselves to the team. That's why there's all this joy, all this craze for everyone. I'm glad. Eight wins and a loss, I think you (journalists) will be kind to us..."

    Ian Mahinmi: "It's true that it wasn't easy because of my injury. I couldn't practice, I've not been running much for two weeks. It's not easy to be thrown (in the game) like this but I liked it. I played 20 minutes, it feels good. I didn't feel pain, but a little apprehension at first, and then it was alright. Now, I need to focus on the next season (with the Spurs), which is capital."


    Diot: "A crazy summer"
    Early August, after the Euro Espoirs (less than 20 years), Antoine Diot was going on vacation at Djerba, but he was called in emergency into the French National Team. Immediately, at just 20, the Mans point guard turned into an indispensable "Bleu". He comments this meteoric trajectory and his future.

    "Antoine Diot, did the Euro change you as a player ?

    I don't think I've changed my style of play. I gained experience and confidence mostly. The compe ion with the under 20 (in July, France finished 2nd) did me a lot of good. I got back to a leader position, I got free. I came into this team with a peace of mind and self-confidence. Besides, my teammates and the coach trusted me right away. Of course it helps. I progressed during this crazy summer. I didn't stop. I got three days in between the two tourneys, but I don't regret a thing, I won a medal with the under 20, and we end up 5th of a Eurobasket.

    You play with Le Mans in the next few days. Won't you pay the price of this busy Euro ?

    We got important games right away, the Champions game (France champion, ASVEL, against the winner of France Cup, Le Mans, next Sunday), the Euroleague qualification round next week. It will be hard but I'm not really tired. I feel it a little bit by the end of games, but I don't have any physical trouble. With some rest and practice-management, I think it should be OK.

    This question is about his French club, I don't translate.

    Where is your place in FNT now ?


    I hope to be Tony's back up in the future. We can even play together. We did it, we were pretty complementary. It's important to keep that. I know that as long as Tony will be there, I will be his back up, that hierarchy won't change for me. I accept that, I'm really glad to play next to him, even behind him. At practice, he teaches me a lot. I'm happy to be there. It goes very well."
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    So Boris's injury is not that serious and will not effect the FNT at all, correct? Good to hear Ian is playing. Hopefully he can be ready and confident for Spurs training camp.

    Bruno or others that watched: did Ian play poorly because of taking it easy with the injury or did it look like he was over matched talent wise?

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