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    The last player cut is Ajinça.

    The 12 players roster for the first qualification game against Italy is:
    Antoine Diot
    Aymeric Jeanneau
    Yannick Bokolo
    Nando De Colo
    Edwin Jackson
    Nicolas Batum
    Boris Diaw
    Florent Pietrus
    Alain Koffi
    Ali Traoré
    Ronny Turiaf
    Johan Petro

    Except De Colo, Batum and Diaw (who is more a 4 than a 3), the rest of the perimeter players shouldn't be able to help the team. The team also lack a lot of offensive potential. These are huge concerns for the game against Italy.
    Bruno I don't know what is your feeling but I think we are in big trouble.

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    Our offense sucks right now but i watched some Italy games and they play no defense. So maybe we can be steal the game in italy with only good defense.

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    Our offense sucks right now but i watched some Italy games and they play no defense. So maybe we can be steal the game in italy with only good defense.
    When you have no O and you shoot the FTs at less than 50%, I really hope Italian D sucks Big Time

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    well i didn't see the last game, but i heard the offense was pretty pathetic, so i'm worried too. I don't think they'll shoot the 3pts that bad though.

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    Even considering a very bad Italy I just don't see this team winning this game, I hope it will be close enough to have a chance after

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    i have some pictures and very short videos (including the last shoot of nando de colo) i made..
    http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w...0vs%20Hongrie/

    have you seen the fights between italian players and canadian players today...ugly!

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    They will defeat Italy sans TP... bet money on that! Diaw and Batum will dominate!

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    i have some pictures and very short videos (including the last shoot of nando de colo) i made..
    http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w...0vs%20Hongrie/

    have you seen the fights between italian players and canadian players today...ugly!
    nice pics. yea i saw the fight, i posted it earlier in this thread.
    maybe there will be some suspension in the italian team.

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    They will defeat Italy sans TP... bet money on that! Diaw and Batum will dominate!
    Italy has a better team right now.

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    Bruno I don't know what is your feeling but I think we are in big trouble.
    I think too.

    Problem is that they went with a 13 players group very soon in the preparation. It makes sense when you only have 3 weeks and 4 preparation games but the NT had some injuries (Parker, Gomis and Diarra) and is now in panic mode.

    Collet went with players that know his systems and/or were in shape as subs ute. I don't know if he could have made otherwise given that it was one week before the first game, but the result is that the team has players that have nothing to do on a NT (Diot, Jackson and an out of shape Jeanneau).

    Now, I won't say that this team won't lose for sure by 20 against Italy. There are some talent (Batum, Diaw, De Colo and some solid bigs) and Italy doens't look great. I have a hard time saying what this team will do. Nothing will surprise me coming from them for this first game.

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    As you said we are in trouble.

    I still don't understand why Jeanneau was not there in the first place. Even if Gomis was there, he is not a PG. Gomis, Bokolo, De Colo none can play PG at this level for long stretch. The NT staff should have known TP could miss games for any minor injury ( Especially this year, with the Spurs going all in).

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    Any stream for the Italy game? If France can keep it in single digits, they should be good.

    They won't lose to Finland even without Parker, right?

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    I still don't understand why Jeanneau was not there in the first place. Even if Gomis was there, he is not a PG. Gomis, Bokolo, De Colo none can play PG at this level for long stretch. The NT staff should have known TP could miss games for any minor injury ( Especially this year, with the Spurs going all in).
    I've always considered Jeanneau as a quite bad player but it's true that with TP injury, a Jeanneau in shape would have really help the team.

    There was a quite interesting article about the whole "combo guard/true PG" problematic few days ago:
    http://www.lequipe.fr/Basket/2009072...es-les-go.html

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    Any stream for the Italy game?
    Too soon to say.

    They won't lose to Finland even without Parker, right?
    They shouldn't. Finland is a quite bad team.

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    I've always considered Jeanneau as a quite bad player but it's true that with TP injury, a Jeanneau in shape would have really help the team.

    There was a quite interesting article about the whole "combo guard/true PG" problematic few days ago:
    http://www.lequipe.fr/Basket/2009072...es-les-go.html
    IMHO Gomis and Bokolo are not combo guards but undersized SG without a jumpshot.

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    Italy is ready to play.
    Mancio showing the way.
    The adequate team reaction to the elbows activities of the sonofa canadian proves the point.

    Bring them on.

    Just bring the parker-less frencies on.

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    I think too.

    Problem is that they went with a 13 players group very soon in the preparation. It makes sense when you only have 3 weeks and 4 preparation games but the NT had some injuries (Parker, Gomis and Diarra) and is now in panic mode.

    Collet went with players that know his systems and/or were in shape as subs ute. I don't know if he could have made otherwise given that it was one week before the first game, but the result is that the team has players that have nothing to do on a NT (Diot, Jackson and an out of shape Jeanneau).

    Now, I won't say that this team won't lose for sure by 20 against Italy. There are some talent (Batum, Diaw, De Colo and some solid bigs) and Italy doens't look great. I have a hard time saying what this team will do. Nothing will surprise me coming from them for this first game.

    I agree with that. To have a chance we need Boris take over the whole thing but he is not selfish enough to take 20 shoots and unfortunately he hasn't the leadership spirit. I miss Bonato, Rigaudeau..

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    The vets (Diaw, F. Pietrus, Turiaf) need to play 30 min + and Boris has to step up and take his responsabilities.

    The X factor should be De Colo and maybe Batum. If one of them or better, both of them perform well, France is in good position.

    Nando has shown vs Hungaria that he can take things on his back (being the only one who can shoot) and isn't afraid. He also knows european BB better.

    I think Collet should start him at PG cos he's the only one beside Diaw who can make things happen on offense.

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    Italy is ready to play.
    Mancio showing the way.
    The adequate team reaction to the elbows activities of the sonofa canadian proves the point.

    Bring them on.

    Just bring the parker-less frencies on.
    Is Mancinelli getting suspended or not?

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    Is Mancinelli getting suspended or not?
    No news so far.
    I guess not.

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    http://www.lnb.fr/index.php?pid=50&i...cursor_start=0

    I think he will play. How many times, how, it's another question but I believe we won't be able to keep him off playing. He will want too much to play. He will be back on Thursday at Pau and we will only play on Thursday. He will want to play anyway. Saturday, on phone, he was still a little upset about having to stay for few days in the USA but he was also very happy about coming back.

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    Game between Canada and Italy was organized by Italian federation and not by the Fiba so Mancinelli shouldn't be suspended.

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    Game between Canada and Italy was organized by Italian federation and not by the Fiba so Mancinelli shouldn't be suspended.
    Lucky for Italy.

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    didn't see posted

    from L'Equipe.fr

    S'il sera bel et bien absent face à l'Italie mercredi, Tony Parker jouera bien face à la Finlande, samedi à Pau. «Je pense qu'il jouera. Combien, comment, c'est autre chose, mais je crois qu'on ne pourra pas l'empêcher de jouer. Il aura trop envie», a expliqué Vincent Collet, lundi, avant d'ajouter: «Il sera de retour jeudi à Pau et on ne joue que samedi. Il voudra jouer de toute façon. Samedi au téléphone, il était encore un peu agacé de devoir rester plusieurs jours (aux Etats-Unis) mais aussi très content de revenir». Une nouvelle qui, selon Collet, va «regonfler les troupes». «Désormais on a tout pour avancer», conclut le sélectionneur des Bleus.

    Tony will play saturday against Finland. V collet "I think he will play but how and how long, I don't know. I think it will be impossible to prevent him from playing, he wants badly to play. He will be back Thursday in France (Pau) and we only play Finland saturday. He will want to play. Last saturday on the phone it seems he is still annoyed to be obliged to stay in SA several days but he is very happy to come back."

    edit: for some corrections

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    Tonight first game Italy - France without parker at 20h30 Paris time

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