The 2009 Greek NT thread

[ata]

Another great performance from Spanoulis
Spanoulis is 2nd, just behind Logan of Poland in total turnovers (10) and hence TOs per game: 5.0
In TO per 40 min, Spanoulis beats even Logan!
AST per TO ratio is excelent: 0.6

PS: Lakovič has ApT ratio 4.0

Another great achievement for Spanoulis - he is tied in 1st place (with Logan, Poland) for most turnovers in the tournament and most TO per game.
However in TO per 40 min, Spanoulis beats even Logan (6.32 vs. 4.57).

Spanoulis' ApT ratio is still under 1.0

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Another great achievement for Spanoulis - he is tied in 1st place (with Logan, Poland) for most turnovers in the tournament and most TO per game.
However in TO per 40 min, Spanoulis beats even Logan (6.32 vs. 4.57).

Spanoulis' ApT ratio is still under 1.0

Spanoulis has much better stats so far than Tony Parker does. Like I said, Spanoulis is better than Parker.

[Spurs Brazil]

Spanoulis has much better stats so far than Tony Parker does. Like I said, Spanoulis is better than Parker.

[mountainballer]

Spanoulis has much better stats so far than Tony Parker does. Like I said, Spanoulis is better than Parker.

his stats are worse. and he isn't half as good as Parker.
that's why Tony got Eva and Spanoulis got you.

[VasP]

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

his stats are worse. and he isn't half as good as Parker.
that's why Tony got Eva and Spanoulis got you.

You are insane. Parker's stats are pretty damn bad.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Spanoulis has had 3 different girlfriends that are all much sexier than Eva is.

[ChumpDumper]

Spanoulis has much better stats so far than Tony Parker does. Like I said, Spanoulis is better than Parker.

Parker has much better NBA stats so far than Spanoulis does. Like I said, Parker is a better NBA player than Spanoulis.

[sonic21]

Spanoulis is weak mentally, he won't lead greece to a medal. Without Papaloukas and Diamantidis it will be hard for Greece to reach the SF.

[Cry Havoc]

You are insane. Parker's stats are pretty damn bad.

22 points
3.1 rebounds
6.9 assists
2.58 turnovers (a 2.67 assist to turnover ratio)
1 steal
on over 50% shooting.

And this was against NBA compe ion. Against monster powerhouses like Macedonia, he could easily score 30-35 points per game, since not a single player in Greece would ever have a ing PRAYER to stay in front of him.

So what are Spanoulis's stats again?

[mountainballer]

2.7 PPG, (32%Fg, 17% 3s)
0.9 APG (0.9 TO)

wtf is that?? oh, Spanoulis NBA stats. wow, they are worse than Kevin Ollie's stats. didn't know that they even install a datafile for such a bad player.

[Spursfan092120]

This Greek team would ing destroy Redeem Team. Next year you will lose.

Greece will never..EVER..beat USA again, as long as we control the guys we send to the international compe ions...book it.

[tso & lo Cavfanatic]

This Greek team would ing destroy Redeem Team. Next year you will lose.

no way mate. USA is by far better than any other team in the world.

Spanoulis is weak mentally, he won't lead greece to a medal. Without Papaloukas and Diamantidis it will be hard for Greece to reach the SF.

Greece right now is among the 4-5 teams in Europe with chances to win the Eurobasket. Spain, Slovenia, France, Serbia and, why not, Turkey are the others.

Spanoulis has much better stats so far than Tony Parker does. Like I said, Spanoulis is better than Parker.

Spanoulis is a better scorer than TP. But, Parker is better in handling ability and pass. V-Span is a small-sized SG.

[tso & lo Cavfanatic]

Never said that. I am just denying KBP's claim that Spanoulis is "Greek Steve Nash".

Spanoulis is not a true PG. Nothing similar to Nash's style. He is more of a Monta Ellis type of player.

[timaios]

Spanoulis is a better scorer than TP.

Sorry, my english must be very poor because I don't understand that sentence...

[Bukefal]

Greece will never..EVER..beat USA again, as long as we control the guys we send to the international compe ions...book it.

USA is way better, thats for sure and chances are low for Greece to beat em, but still dont be too sure, everyone is beatable, even if it seems impossible.

[Bukefal]

no way mate. USA is by far better than any other team in the world.


Greece right now is among the 4-5 teams in Europe with chances to win the Eurobasket. Spain, Slovenia, France, Serbia and, why not, Turkey are the others.

True, Greece is probably the one with the biggest together with France and Spain maybe. But Turkey? No, I dont think so.

Spanoulis is a better scorer than TP. But, Parker is better in handling ability and pass. V-Span is a small-sized SG.

Better scorer than TP?

[Mel_13]

Ultimately these comparisons of Spanoulis with NBA players are silly. He has chosen, for reasons known only to himself, to be content with playing in the Euroleague, the second best club league in the world. He may even be the best player in the second best league. So what? It's like comparing the minor league home run king to Albert Pujols.

And I don't care if averages 50 pts a game in some offseason exhibition tournament between teams that play together a few weeks a year. It proves nothing about where he stands relative to the best players in the world. If he wants to be considered among the best, he has to compete against the best day in and day out for a period of years. You can't do that playing 40-50 games a year against a lower level of compe ion.

Spanoulis obviously has enough talent to play in the NBA. Whether he would be a star, a rotation player, or a scrub is impossible to know with any certainty. The only thing we do know for sure is that he was scrub the first time he played in the NBA. Nothing he does in second level compe ion can ever change that. To change that he has to step up and return to the NBA.

[manufan10]

Ultimately these comparisons of Spanoulis with NBA players are silly. He has chosen, for reasons known only to himself, to be content with playing in the Euroleague, the second best club league in the world. He may even be the best player in the second best league. So what? It's like comparing the minor league home run king to Albert Pujols.

And I don't care if averages 50 pts a game in some offseason exhibition tournament between teams that play together a few weeks a year. It proves nothing about where he stands relative to the best players in the world. If he wants to be considered among the best, he has to compete against the best day in and day out for a period of years. You can't do that playing 40-50 games a year against a lower level of compe ion.

Spanoulis obviously has enough talent to play in the NBA. Whether he would be a star, a rotation player, or a scrub is impossible to know with any certainty. The only thing we do know for sure is that he was scrub the first time he played in the NBA. Nothing he does in second level compe ion can ever change that. To change that he has to step up and return to the NBA.

[Freeze]

Spanoulis has much better stats so far than Tony Parker does. Like I said, Spanoulis is better than Parker.

1st, Parker needs to involve his teammates, which limits his statistical impact.
2nd : Diaw, DeColo, Turiaf, Batum, Pietrus, etc... They all can create their own shoots, wich limits the statistical impact of their PG.
3rd : Parker's 19,7 PPG >>>> VSpan's 15,3
Parker's 4,3 RPG >>>> VSpan's 2
Parker's 2,7 StealsPG >>>> VSpan's 1,3
Parker's 3 To'sPG >>>> VSpan's 4

Assists are equal.

Wrong again KBP, as always. Feel better ?

[Stump]

Ultimately these comparisons of Spanoulis with NBA players are silly. He has chosen, for reasons known only to himself, to be content with playing in the Euroleague, the second best club league in the world. He may even be the best player in the second best league. So what? It's like comparing the minor league home run king to Albert Pujols.

And I don't care if averages 50 pts a game in some offseason exhibition tournament between teams that play together a few weeks a year. It proves nothing about where he stands relative to the best players in the world. If he wants to be considered among the best, he has to compete against the best day in and day out for a period of years. You can't do that playing 40-50 games a year against a lower level of compe ion.

Spanoulis obviously has enough talent to play in the NBA. Whether he would be a star, a rotation player, or a scrub is impossible to know with any certainty. The only thing we do know for sure is that he was scrub the first time he played in the NBA. Nothing he does in second level compe ion can ever change that. To change that he has to step up and return to the NBA.

Excuse me, sir, but your well thought-out argument is not welcome here.

[Macca76]

his stats are worse. and he isn't half as good as Parker.
that's why Tony got Eva and Spanoulis got you.

[Macca76]

Nice lies.

Pau Gasol
Marc Gasol
Juan Carlos Navarro (obviously he can easily play in NBA if he wants to)
Garbajosa (would be there easily if he wanted)

Rubio would be if not for his buyout.

STFU with your sickening deranged bull

Honestly you're awesome

Have you considered humor as a way of living ?

[Macca76]

1st, Parker needs to involve his teammates, which limits his statistical impact.
2nd : Diaw, DeColo, Turiaf, Batum, Pietrus, etc... They all can create their own shoots, wich limits the statistical impact of their PG.
3rd : Parker's 19,7 PPG >>>> VSpan's 15,3
Parker's 4,3 RPG >>>> VSpan's 2
Parker's 2,7 StealsPG >>>> VSpan's 1,3
Parker's 3 To'sPG >>>> VSpan's 4

Assists are equal.

Wrong again KBP, as always. Feel better ?

I love this thread

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Spanoulis is weak mentally, he won't lead greece to a medal. Without Papaloukas and Diamantidis it will be hard for Greece to reach the SF.

Before you swore they could not make it past quarterfinal. You already realize you have been owned. And by the brackets there is a good chance Greece gets Spain in quarterfinals. I cannot wait because we will crush them.