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You're comparing wide open mid range jumpers where Pierce or Rondo sucked a defender away from KG to Dirk's one legged fade away with a player right in face.
Howard, Terry, Harris, Stackhouse, Dampier, Diop, etc. all at their primes that was a great team.KG with pierce and allen= nba champions
Dirk with josh howard and terry = finals
So we can't really judge.
You're comparing wide open mid range jumpers where Pierce or Rondo sucked a defender away from KG to Dirk's one legged fade away with a player right in face.
or how good the celtics are, more like. The Celtics with KG would have repeated, their only bump in the road a mentally frail Lakers team they pwned the very year before.
they all choked in the finals. You need to have other stars to win it all.
If Dirk had Allen Pierce, Perky, Rondo, Posey, PJ Brown, Eddie House and Sam Cassell, his team would have won it all in 2006.
If KG had the supporting cast I just described his team wouldn't sniff the finals.
and terry, howard and diop only show up against the spurs
Dirk > KG
and its not nearly as close as they used to be.
KG's defense is overrated.
Dirk's defense is underrated.
And Dirk always owns KG head to head.
Change Dirk for KG in 2008 and I really doubt that the Celtics would have been the champs.
Dampier had crapped out since long before 06 while Stack also had entered the 3rd year of his twilight era, Devin Harris was still immature by that time and Diop was simply an x-factor that only plays well when facing Duncan and Spurs. Actually the real help could only be demanded from Jet and Josh, so it was approximately Dirk himself that carried that team into the NBA finals.
what now, you really think that?
I doubt that. The reason those guys won the 'ship in '08 was because of their defense, and according to them the reason for that defensive improvment was KG's prescence. He set the tone for everyone.
yes. Without KG that team wouldn't have been even half as good defensively. And the defense was what won them the championship.
Because Boston happened to run a system last year that needs a player like KG to succeed.
That'd be like saying I doubt the Suns win 62 games in 2005 with Kobe instead of Nash therefore Nash > Kobe.
wrong. I didn't compare in that post. I just think its incredulous (read: re ed) to call out KG for shooting jumpers like he has his entire career when comparing him to the world's premiere 7foot jumpshooter.
even a Spur fan will say Dirk is a nobrainer. It's like comparing Jason Terry to Manu Ginobili
You really don't think Dallas with Perkins, Allen, Pierce, Rondo, Posey, Brown House and Cassell would have won it all in 2006?
Some bitter Spurs fans in here I can see.
Yes but Manu would be KG (two locks for the HoF), and Dirk Terry (two that aren't, even though I think Dirk will eventualy get there).
Except that's not what I did moron. I said when your offense consists of wide open mid range jumpers someone else creates for you, you're not an "above average" offensive player. Dirk creates virtually every shot he takes.
exactly, Manu and KG both are prone to injuries. Healthy Manu and KG are as good as JET and Dirk though.
They wouldn't have needed to be as good defensively with Dirk instead of KG.
Dirk > Manu
If manu is a lock, so is dirk
The Allen and Cassel of '06 aren't the same that the Allen and Cassel of '08. And yeah I don't think they would have won it all. 'Cause that team wouldn't be as good on defense as the '08 Celtics. And defense is what wins championships.
How the is Manu a lock for the HoF?
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