Obama "We noticed"

[Phenomanul]

It's clear he's not being influenced by demons, so I don't think it's that big a deal. He just hates America.

I think it's pretty safe to say we find your suggestions for summoning demons to be much more entertaining.

Entertaning as you may find this all to be... mess with demons at your own peril...

You make it sound like I'm the only person in the world that believes in angels and demons.... they come with the territory of believing in GOD.

Millions do...

But as I told clambake, I find your attempts of invalidating my arguments based loosely on my personal beliefs, to be a concession that you can't address them. Like her... now you're just reaching. You don't stoop to that. You're usually stubborn... not this.

[Phenomanul]

You brought it up.

You said it was hit or miss.

What do you think will happen if it hits?


We all agree he hates America.

Now, tell us all what you think will happen if the apparent summoning you described doesn't miss and instead hits?

I never arrived at that conclusion...

[clambake]

"Bartender, I'd like a shot of God with a Ouija chaser".

[ChumpDumper]

Entertaning as you may find this all to be... mess with demons at your own peril...

You make it sound like I'm the only person in the world that believes in angels and demons.... they come with the territory of believing in GOD.

Millions do...

But as I told clambake, I find your attempts of invalidating my arguments based loosely on my personal beliefs, to be a concession that you can't address them. Like her... now you're just reaching. You don't stoop to that. You're usually stubborn... not this.

If you are afraid to say what you believe regarding the summoning of demons, that's fine.

I don't know why you would bring it up in the first place if you are that afraid, though.

I personally don't believe a demon can be summoned in such a manner.

You obviously seem to believe one can, but somehow don't want to admit it.

Strange.

[clambake]

i could be a demon, right?

[ChumpDumper]

I never arrived at that conclusion...

Or he thinks he's a rebel.

Great. Issue resolved.

Now about these demons -- what could I expect to happen if the summoning you described is successful?

[clambake]

what better place for a demon to lurk than the internet.

[Phenomanul]

While I tend to disagree with your points in this thread, I applaud your civility.

That said, your ouija thing seems more like a change of subject more than any substantive answer, so you shouldn't characterize your audience as being relieved to move away from the discussion when you led them down that rabbit hole.

To clarify... that was based on something that happened.... sheesh I can't even remember when... 1? 2 years ago?

It was a challenge I gave clambake whenever she decided to mock my belief in angels and demons.... one I distinctly remember she refused. Apparently she doesn't believe in it... but it strikes fear in her nonetheless...

And if you go back to like page 2... she's the one who brought it up... Post No. 39

Isn't it possible that he was distracted by demons?

Who would ask that randomly, unless they had an axe to grind? I called her out for it.

[Phenomanul]

If you are afraid to say what you believe regarding the summoning of demons, that's fine.

I don't know why you would bring it up in the first place if you are that afraid, though.

I personally don't believe a demon can be summoned in such a manner.

You obviously seem to believe one can, but somehow don't want to admit it.

Strange.

If your inquiry were solely based on wanting to know what I believe I would freely tell you...

But your questions are always laced and tarnished with an agenda that aims to knock the person responding to your query. You do this to everyone... and it's rather annoying.

I could PM you my response if you so desired.

[clambake]

To clarify... that was based on something that happened.... sheesh I can't even remember when... 1? 2 years ago?

is your memory that fleeting? give us every detail. nobody could forget like this.

It was a challenge I gave clambake whenever she decided to mock my belief in angels and demons.... one I distinctly remember she refused. Apparently she doesn't believe in it... but it strikes fear in her nonetheless...

how can it strike fear in me if i don't believe it?

And if you go back to like page 2... she's the one who brought it up... Post No. 39

you making judgement calls about other people automatically includes the influences of demons. get used to it.

Who would ask that randomly, unless they had an axe to grind? I called her out for it.

you can never run from your beliefs when you're discussing the character of others. it's a done deal.

[ChumpDumper]

If your inquiry were solely based on wanting to know what I believe I would freely tell you...

But your questions are always laced and tarnished with an agenda that aims to knock the person responding to your query. You do this to everyone... and it's rather annoying.

I could PM you my response if you so desired.

I think many people want to know what might happen in such a situation.

My agenda is to know what you believe what would happen if one of was successful in executing the ceremony you described.

[jack sommerset]

Your devil's advocate position is rather predictable...

If you're anything like your internet persona in real life... I'd be surprised that anyone would want to put up with you...

You mock everything.
You snicker at everything.
You've mastered cynicism to an artform.
You're a semantical freak.
You must argue everything to death.

You should have just left it at this. Chump never STFU.

[ChumpDumper]

You should have just left it at this.

i don't think he is doing particularly badly. He eventually tries to say what he believes; he just seems to be afraid of the judgment of others.

[Phenomanul]

I think many people want to know what might happen in such a situation.

Well then you're just going to have to join clambake's ritual... While you're at it... buy a satanic bible and go all out. Invoke his name.

My agenda is to know what you believe what would happen if one of was successful in executing the ceremony you described.

Unfortunately, you can't get everything you ask for... awhile back you were apalled that anyone's curiosity could 'demand' an answer or an explanation...

I'm pretty sure that you've stooped to "demanding" at this juncture... and I don't owe you anything... whereas elected officials do.

[clambake]

i don't blame you, phen.

this is a trainwreck.

[Phenomanul]

is your memory that fleeting? give us every detail. nobody could forget like this.

You're the one that put my out of context quote in your sig... it happened shortly after... use the search feature.

how can it strike fear in me if i don't believe it?

Which is why you will try it and prove once and for all that the angelic realm doesn't exist?

you making judgement calls about other people automatically includes the influences of demons. get used to it.

He was asking why I would derail the tread... clearly you did.

you can never run from your beliefs when you're discussing the character of others. it's a done deal.

Again, when have I denied my belief in the existence of angels or demons?

When you go back and use the search feature... look that one up as well. Hurry... don't take long....

[ChumpDumper]

Well then you're just going to have to join clambake's ritual... While you're at it... buy a satanic bible and go all out. Invoke his name.

So you think it's possible to actually summon a demon that way?

Unfortunately, you can't get everything you ask for... awhile back you were apalled that anyone's curiosity could 'demand' an answer or an explanation...

I'm pretty sure that you've stooped to "demanding" at this juncture... and I don't owe you anything... whereas elected officials do.

Actually, you have professed your interest in talking about the summoning of demons, and now I have an interest in hearing it.

I had no such interest in guessing why Obama didn't put his hand over his heart at the same time a couple of other people did in a still photo.

It takes at least two for a conversation, and here we are -- talking about the summoning of demons since you brought it up.

So what would we expect to happen if we were successful in the summoning ceremony you brought up earlier?

[clambake]

did a demon make you think that admiralsnackbar posted those quotes?

[td4mvp21]

clambake is a woman?

[admiralsnackbar]

I always forget... did you just libel or slander me, Phenomanul?

[Phenomanul]

i don't blame you, phen.

this is a trainwreck.

For you. You've been exposed repeatedly here.

What do you have on me...?? that I believe in Angels and Demons??? That this belief somehow makes me crazy?

You've got nothing. Your self-delusion that you did (for the third time in this thread) is pathetically flawed. But keep reaching....

[Phenomanul]

did a demon make you think that admiralsnackbar posted those quotes?

????

[clambake]

i'm everything you say i am.

tell us what happens.

[jack sommerset]

i don't think he is doing particularly badly. He eventually tries to say what he believes; he just seems to be afraid of the judgment of others.

[Phenomanul]

So you think it's possible to actually summon a demon that way?

Actually, you have professed your interest in talking about the summoning of demons, and now I have an interest in hearing it.

I had no such interest in guessing why Obama didn't put his hand over his heart at the same time a couple of other people did in a still photo.

It takes at least two for a conversation, and here we are -- talking about the summoning of demons since you brought it up.

So what would we expect to happen if we were successful in the summoning ceremony you brought up earlier?

Try it and see... maybe your theory is proven correct....