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Thanks.
Duncan is hands down player of the decade.
No way in Kobe is 1st. I have no problem with Kobe athlete of the decade, but not player of the decade. When TD is good physically he dominates both ends.
Anyway, great ing win by the Suns.
it would hurt but he deserves to win another ring and the current team does not deserve Tim Duncan
Thanks.
Duncan is hands down player of the decade.
No way in Kobe is 1st. I have no problem with Kobe athlete of the decade, but not player of the decade. When TD is good physically he dominates both ends.
Anyway, great ing win by the Suns.
So why do you blame Tony if you know he isn't 100% healthy?
+ he is THE ONLY ONE on the roster who HAS TO change his game for the good of the team.
You should realise that even healty it's not an easy thing to do after 8 years in the league (for anybody!)
You all blame the TP homers (whitch I'm not), but maybe they are/became because you guys ALWAYS find good excuses for Tim and Manu when they are not performing and when it comes to Tony it's like a gangbang at ST!!!!!!
hey mate, Dejaun Blair played his heart out.
Mason Jr showed up tonight too. I'm giving Roger props too.
No you can't have TD!
+1.2 seasons ago, the Suns won the season series [3-1] against the Spurs...the playoffs that year were a completely different story. Win some...lose some...I'm sure the coaching staff will have plenty to rant about given the missed defensive assignments, wide open 3 balls, and poor ball movement in the 1st and 4th quarter.
S.A. made a uva run there. This and the other previous 3 losses prove that its not a mountain they need to climb, just make some adjustments. I know...I know...it sucks hearing that crap almost every time they lose a close one, but the silver lining is that they're getting there. This team is capable of doing the job if they can get consistent. The rest of the month seems like a gimme. If all goes well, they'll enter the new year 20-10.
How about Tim takin over though. He still owns Amare.
seriously.
+1
Thanks for much needed and rare level-headed realism.
"I know...I know...it sucks hearing that crap almost every time they lose a close one, but the silver lining is that they're getting there. This team is capable of doing the job if they can get consistent."
It does suck dealing with so many losses. Some have been humiliating. Some have been frustrating, and some have been so close. Every single Spurs fan has a right to be extremely frustrated, confused, and worried... but the knee-jerk solution threads and blame game threads are pointless and a waste of time. Some are even 100% ignorant.
The 2010 Spurs are a wild animal. There's such a combination of new, old, and young that it's really, seriously will take time to make the pieces fit and function as the well-oiled machine we usually identify the team as. It's a very large task for Coach Pop and the team to reign it all in and get everything under control and in sync.
There are flashes of brilliance and there are glaring flaws. You can't realistically expect it to just work cause we want it to. This year's team reminds me of a complex beer. Some strong(high APV)microbrew or Belgian import. The flavors are intense and complex and taste at first bottling is usually strong, overwhelming, ...all-over-the-place. Cellar the bottle like you would a good wine(a few months and for beer-up to 3 years) and after time the ingredients settle nicely. All things hit your palette evenly and the true character is revealed.
I'm sure we're all tired of waiting, but I really feel like there are so many personalities and disciplines on this roster that it might take the whole season to come together. We might be biting our nails in April. We might be like the '95 Rockets(who we sadly fell against) and be a late bloomer, a surprise low-seed Champion that goes down in history as the tough compe ors that never quit.
I hope we do well this season.
I hope all of you enjoy this season. Please try to enjoy Spurs basketball.
sorry timmy
Good game Goran!!
Wooooooeeee, you know it's bad for the Spurs and their fans when so many threads get moved in one night.WE only need a couple threads to get it all off our chest anyway. Time for Pop to go badass on the team and start kicking some ass. If RJ, Dice and Bogans can't fit in them get rid of their sorry asses. All of the other so-called contenders have new guys who are fitting in nicely. Something ain't right in SA. Time to get it corrected, Pop!
That's pretty much what I think too.
TP was supposed to carry the team or at least be the second best player and it hasn't happened. Tim is doing it all again.
Damn the mods are real busy tonight
Remember a few years ago when he realy started being a beast at scoring?
He always said "Pop told me I could take 20 shots if I wanted..."
That's what puts a scorer in confidence!!!
Now he is ALWAY hesisating or getting rid of the ball quickly...
I HATE THAT!!!!!
LET HIM BE HIMSELF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is not a natural playmaker AND WILL NEVER BE!!!!!
...and it's fine (and has alway been) in the spurs systems, where almost every plays are drawn and it's all about execution...
Pop is just destroying one of his best toys...
That's a good question. I would be mad at the Spurs for not surrounding him with the talent, but not at Tim if he wanted a trade. I love Tim and sometimes when I am really mad I think for a second the Spurs should trade him to a team like the Magic because he should have more rings. People are just starting to get on the Kobe wagon and not even mentioning Tim anymore and I think that is total bull for how great Tim has been and still is. It truly pisses me off and that's why I sometimes think he should ask for a trade.
You know who I'm talking about, Ice009. Guys who've spent some time in the NBA and are supposed to play like pro's but are not! I praise Blair nightly but, he is only a rookie who Pop is using sparingly and wasn't in my grouping of the TP's, RJ's, KB's AMcD's, etc.
I've posted tonight like I always do that Blair is making Dice look like a Junior High bball player. Dice has been worthless so far. Sheed is making Boston look like Geeenyusses and RC & Pop like beginners!
We need our guys to pull their collective heads out of their collective asses and start playing Spurs BBall...!
He can shoot it consistently, but that takes away too much from the offense.
The only time Tony is a consistent shooter is when he takes 15+ shots. We won't win like that though with him taking all the shots and freezing everyone else out.
This.
Oh by the way, I just realized, we have yet to play a game in the Eastern Conference.
Maybe we should start Mason Jr and bench RJ.Yeah, Tim Duncan remembers me time and time again why he is the greatest Power Forward to ever play the game.
Jefferson and Ginobili played like **** though. Parker got it going at times, but he should have played much better.
Roger Mason was awesome tonight, nailing 3 balls from everywhere. Hill was good and Blair was a beast. Although I am happy we cut a 20 point lead to 3, we still need to learn how to play better Defense and keep our momentum going. I can't totally blame the Spurs though, because the Suns got a lot of phantom calls down the stretch.
Oh well, we still got more rings.
TP needs shooters around him and I think the only role Mason Jr. could excel at is starting at SG again. If you want to maximize Mason Jr. you might have to start him again. We also cut the lead to 1 point, not three, so we were right there.
Parker said in an interview the other day that he is very close to 100% healthy. WTF do you want us to do when he says that.So why do you blame Tony if you know he isn't 100% healthy?
+ he is THE ONLY ONE on the roster who HAS TO change his game for the good of the team.
You should realise that even healty it's not an easy thing to do after 8 years in the league (for anybody!)
You all blame the TP homers (whitch I'm not), but maybe they are/became because you guys ALWAYS find good excuses for Tim and Manu when they are not performing and when it comes to Tony it's like a gangbang at ST!!!!!!
off.
Coming into this thread to rub it in and rag on the Spurs some more huh?
It wasn't directed to you only!! cool!
But a lot of people are just making Ducks act like that because of their lack of objectivity toward Parker!
It's like nobody ask himself WHY he is performing that way...
Everybody point out his weaknesses as if he was a rookie we were discovering...
The guy is in his 9th year with the spurs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So give him a litle respect when he is not good, he has earn it I think...
PS; About his D, we have all talk about it hundreds of time, he has not the physical capability to defend all year the way he defends during the playoffs... I don't like it, but it's fine with me (and Pop too I gess)
im not even talking about jumpshots or him taking 20+ shots a game, im talking about the 4-6 easy layups off screens or in transition tony used to get every game last year. he could make those in his sleep. im wondering why everything is coming so hard now.
not why tony cant get into a rhythm without taking a bunch of jumpers.
Well I'll just say some of those layups are tough shots. It is amazing that TP was making all those layups. Some of those layups that TP has made in previous seasons have been amazing. TP has really been one of the best PG finishers in NBA history with those layups. I don't need to tell you that though as you already know that, but what I am saying it that you can't blame him for not finishing like that all the time. That's gotta be tough to make those shots.
You know I am a shooter and get on guys for missing jumpers, but I could never make any of those layups TP makes so I am usually amazed most of the time when Tony makes those.
I really don't like what Chip did too because now TP has lost that Tear drop runner. That was such a lethal weapon.
Remember in 2008 Manu was trying to add that tear drop to his game too. What happened with that? Why don't both Manu and TP still try to keep working on that shot.
Updated.
Suns remain perfect at home with win over Spurs
The Spurs expected big games from Amare Stoudemire and Steve Nash. Goran Dragic’s sharp shooting was what stunned San Antonio.
Stoudemire had 28 points and 14 rebounds and Nash had 25 points and 13 assists as the Suns broke a three-game skid to San Antonio with a 116-104 victory Tuesday night, improving to 9-0 at home to remain the NBA’s only unbeaten team at home this season.
Dragic had a career-high 18 points while making 7 of 9 field-goal attempts, including a career-high 4 of 5 from 3-point range.
“Steve and Amare did what they do. They played well. Dragic kind of shocked us a little bit,” San Antonio’s Tim Duncan said.
Dragic’s 3-pointer with 6:07 remaining gave the Suns (17-9) a 100-90 lead, and the Spurs, who cut a 20-point third-quarter deficit to one in the first minute of the fourth quarter, never were closer than nine again.
“My coach from Serbia has been in town for the last four days, and we worked a lot on my shot,” Dragic said. “Before when I shot, my arch was not so high. Today it felt great. The arch was higher.”
Duncan had a season-high 34 points and 14 rebounds for San Antonio (12-10), and Roger Mason had a season-high 19 points, including a season-high five 3-pointers. Starters Richard Jefferson and Tony Parker and sixth man Manu Ginobili had a combined 26 points on 8-of-26 shooting.
“I thought Phoenix did a great job coming out aggressively and keeping the aggressiveness for 48 minutes. We had too many pathetic games from too many people. You can’t do that against a team like Phoenix,” San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich said.
Stoudemire had his seventh double-double of the season.
“I was definitely in attack mode tonight, bringing that energy that we needed,” Stoudemire said. “I think we collectively brought great energy.”
The Suns made 11 of 16 3-point attempts while shooting 52 percent from the field.
Phoenix has scored 100 points or more in its last 35 home games, a streak that began after San Antonio won at U.S. Airways, 91-90, on Dec. 25, 2008, when Mason hit a 3-pointer at the buzzer after entering for the first time with 4.3 seconds to play.
“It’s a real good win against a real, real solid team. You look at their record now. Come back to me in April. They won’t be two games over .500 then,” Suns coach Alvin Gentry said. “It’s always fun playing against them. They are such a smart team and have such a high basketball IQ. They hung around until they made a run. I thought we won the game with our defense.”
The Suns outrebounded San Antonio, 47-42, and limited the Spurs to 46.5 percent shooting from the field.
Phoenix led by as many as 18 points twice, the last when Nash made a 3-pointer from the right wing to give the Suns a 63-45 lead with 1:13 remaining. Dragic acquired from San Antonio in a 2008 draft-day deal, had three 3-pointers and 11 points in the first half.
Grant Hill gave Phoenix its biggest lead, 76-56, on a basket with 8:38 left in the third quarter. San Antonio cut it to 89-84 at the end of third quarter, finishing on a 28-13 run that included three 3-pointers by Mason and eight points by Duncan.
“Against a great team like Phoenix, one half is never enough,” said Ginobili, who had seven points. “We started soft. They are a high-scoring team, and if you make mistakes, they punish you. We didn’t expect Dragic to make four 3s. We want Steve and Amare to score on us, and nobody else. It’s a good lesson.”
NOTES: Nash had his fourth straight 20-point game and drew four offensive fouls. … Suns guard Jason Richardson, playing with his right wrist taped after bruising it in a 105-99 loss at Denver on Saturday, started but missed his first three shots in the first quarter and did not play in the second. Richardson’s first basket of the game was a 3-pointer with 8:38 remaining in the third quarter, and he finished with three points in 23 minutes. Muhammad Ali had a court-side seat. Ali has a home in the Phoenix area. Phoenix center Louis Amundson suffered a mild left ankle injury in the first half and did not return. He had four points and a blocked shot in seven minutes.
I'm just glad there was no vBookie tonight...
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