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    Stupid bigs that space the floor...the Spurs wont win anything trying to use bigs that shoot from the outside.

    That guy was great. Unfortunately he retired. Time to move on.

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    Make up your mind...
    I did.


    Exactly...
    Thanks for agreeing with me.


    You can't determine what the advantage is from that stat.
    Why not? Do you not know enough about the Spurs to posit a theory?

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    If this is all you are reading then yes I suppose it would look like that. =P
    You don't know the game that well, and I'm ok with that. You should be ok with it too.

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    You mean Odom? Doesnt he usualy plays as the playmaker(pg) for the second unit? I'll admit I havnt watched many lakers games lately but I though Paul usualy plays mostly with Bynum.
    How much did Bynum play last season?

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    I did.Thanks for agreeing with me.
    Don't thank me. You agreed with me.

    Why not? Do you not know enough about the Spurs to posit a theory?
    You would know the answer if you knew what that stat is, and what is the resolution of the information it provides. You would actually not be asking the question in the first place.

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    You don't know the game that well, and I'm ok with that. You should be ok with it too.
    Damn that must have been you that I keep catching looking in my dinning room window since you know me so well! I'm on to you NOW dammit!

    Typical elitist at udes around here, but whatever. I used to tell people off like that or try to belittle them or call them silly names when I disagreed with them. When I was in the 3rd grade!

    We can try to be a little more civilized if you care.

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    Don't thank me. You agreed with me.
    That 20 feet is not under the basket? No, I said that first.

    You would know the answer if you knew what that stat is, and what is the resolution of the information it provides. You would actually not be asking the question in the first place.
    Actually it's a rhetorical question. I have a theory, it has a lot to do with offensive spacing.

    What is your theory?

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    How much did Bynum play last season?
    You do have me there, good call. Heh, guess that shows how much I really care about the Lakers.

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    Damn that must have been you that I keep catching looking in my dinning room window since you know me so well! I'm on to you NOW dammit!

    Typical elitist at udes around here, but whatever. I used to tell people off like that or try to belittle them or call them silly names when I disagreed with them. When I was in the 3rd grade!

    We can try to be a little more civilized if you care.
    I wasn't being "uncivilized." I really don't mind that you're having problems understanding simple basketball concepts. When you have a dominant low post player you want to open things up for him...you want to unclog the paint so he can work and so players like Tony and Manu can also get into the lane.

    That picture i posted of Robert Horry worked for both the Spurs and the Lakers championship runs. He spread the floor for Shaq. He spread the floor for Duncan. To those who think Bonner sucks...this season Bonner is shooting better than Robert Horry ever did over the course of his career.

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    That 20 feet is not under the basket? No, I said that first.
    No, that we don't need a guy 20+ feet out in order for Duncan to operate effectively. I said that first.

    Actually it's a rhetorical question. I have a theory, it has a lot to do with offensive spacing.
    What is your theory?
    I don't have a theory. Let's hear yours.

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    This is impossible:

    We say: Horry played and spaced the floor with Tim. We also say that Pau, KG and Wallace did the same for their teams.

    El Nono says: Even though KG took more shots outside than inside, the fact he shot a better % closer to the rim shows he operates down low. Then even though Horry played a bigger role than Oberto/Nazr, the fact they were on the team and sometimes were in the lane shreds the spacing argument.

    We say: Ok...

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    this thread has really grown fast...

    anyway, I never heard of haislip back when we got him preseason. so I've been interested in seeing him play.

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    This is impossible:

    We say: Horry played and spaced the floor with Tim. We also say that Pau, KG and Wallace did the same for their teams.

    El Nono says: Even though KG took more shots outside than inside, the fact he shot a better % closer to the rim shows he operates down low. Then even though Horry played a bigger role than Oberto/Nazr, the fact they were on the team and sometimes were in the lane shreds the spacing argument.

    We say: Ok...
    I say: What happened with Gasol and Wallace? What happened with Nazr/Rasho/DRob/Oberto?

    You say: Ok...

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    No, that we don't need a guy 20+ feet out in order for Duncan to operate effectively.
    I never said that we did.

    I don't have a theory. Let's hear yours.
    I think the offensive spacing is better in these lineups, since Bonner doesn't often supply much more.

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    this thread has really grown fast...

    anyway, I never heard of haislip back when we got him preseason. so I've been interested in seeing him play.
    Let's hope he defends better than he did in the preseason.

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    This is impossible:

    We say: Horry played and spaced the floor with Tim. We also say that Pau, KG and Wallace did the same for their teams.

    El Nono says: Even though KG took more shots outside than inside, the fact he shot a better % closer to the rim shows he operates down low. Then even though Horry played a bigger role than Oberto/Nazr, the fact they were on the team and sometimes were in the lane shreds the spacing argument.

    We say: Ok...

    For a lot of these guys the NBA started in 2002.


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    I say: What happened with Gasol and Wallace? What happened with Nazr/Rasho/DRob/Oberto?

    You say: Ok...
    What do you mean what happened with Gasol and Wallace? They have the ability to space the floor. The fact they have that ability whether it is from 3-PT distance, 20 feet or 13 feet, the fact you have to respect that opens up the spacing.


    We already explained the Nazr/Rasho/Drob/Oberto. Horry was there and spaced and played the most crucial role. D Rob played away from the rim, even if it was not 20 feet.

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    I wasn't being "uncivilized." I really don't mind that you're having problems understanding simple basketball concepts. When you have a dominant low post player you want to open things up for him...you want to unclog the paint so he can work and so players like Tony and Manu can also get into the lane.

    That picture i posted of Robert Horry worked for both the Spurs and the Lakers championship runs. He spread the floor for Shaq. He spread the floor for Duncan. To those who think Bonner sucks...this season Bonner is shooting better than Robert Horry ever did over the course of his career.
    Ok, was it really that hard now. Still couldn't help it with the petty insults of your superiority course. However you are who you are and I can't change that. It's just way to easy to have this at ude on the Internets.

    Maybe one day when I grow up I can be a fraction like you.

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    I never said that we did.
    You said that some of our bigs camped in the key. The key, last I checked, is 19 feet long from the baseline. That's a lot less than 20 feet overall.
    So yeah, you did say it.

    I think the offensive spacing is better in these lineups, since Bonner doesn't often supply much more.
    Sounds plausible. But then I have to ask, why would the Spurs send him to the bench to play alongside Blair instead of Duncan then?

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    For a lot of these guys the NBA started in 2002.
    When did the NBA started for you?

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    Never mind...

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    What do you mean what happened with Gasol and Wallace? They have the ability to space the floor. The fact they have that ability whether it is from 3-PT distance, 20 feet or 13 feet, the fact you have to respect that opens up the spacing.
    You said we needed a guy shooting 20+ feet out to provide enough spacing. I can go back and quote you on that. Are you backtracking now? 13 feet is a lot different from 20 feet.

    Are you going to deny that Rasheed Wallace was primarily a post up player when Detroit won it all?
    Are you going to deny that Gasol is a low post player?

    We already explained the Nazr/Rasho/Drob/Oberto. Horry was there and spaced and played the most crucial role. D Rob played away from the rim, even if it was not 20 feet.
    Horry was great, but what made him great was well beyond his 3 point shooting. He was a great defender, he could rebound, he took charges and he occasionally would block a shot. He had a tremendous basketball IQ.

    We simply don't have another Robert Horry. He retired. We need to move on. Tim has been successful in the paint before we had Horry. There's no reason he can't be again.

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    Couple of these in this thread already... just go ahead and say what you think...
    It's no big deal... it's not like anything we say has anything to do with what Pop is going to do anyways...

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    Couldn't have said it any better.
    Me either. Outside of tim. What r we spreading the floor for. Maybe they plan on bringing some naked women during games to really make things interesting.

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    Couldn't have said it any better.
    Me either. Outside of tim. What r we spreading the floor for. Maybe they plan on bringing some naked women during games to really make things interesting.now that's worth spreading the floor for

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