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But why would the Spurs do this?
We really need either Haywood or Camby, we don't really need more offense. I pick Haywood over Camby only for his extra ability to not take those ineffective 20 footers when he can't, that is the offense I am looking for, someone who can grab offensive boards and put the ball into the basket, no plays needed.
But why would the Spurs do this?
We need a perimeter player to take some load off of Parker and Manu's creating and scoring ability. Those two are having to do more than their bodies can handle. It is evident how they can't create the separation they used to in isolation and pick and roll situations. Especially in the 4th quarter. I thought RJ was going to be the answer, but I was dead wrong. The guy has been a disappointment. Luckily his contract is expiring after next year.
They also need a big with length that can defend, rebound and that's good enough to play significant minutes in front of Blair and McDyess. IMO
Brandon Bass might be on the trading block, SVG doesn't know how to use him at all, and he loves bigs that can shoot the 3.
So he might be interested in Matt Bonner to act as a backup to Ryan Anderson and Rashard Lewis. Bonner wouldn't see much PT over there but would probably be a much cheaper alternative.
The trade works in the trade machine, and the magic would save 800K this year (more because of being over the cap) and then 8m over the next 2. Spurs would get a starting caliber PF/C that can really bang and has some experience hat Blair is lacking right now. Not to mention ACL's and a much stronger lower base that would help him defend the post much better than Blair.
Gortat otoh I think is pretty much a big part of their plans, doubt Van Gundy has any plans to let him go.
Two Trades:
Trade #1:
Bonner, Finley, Mason, and a pick to Bulls
Salmons, Thomas to Spurs
If RJ and Manu continue to struggle in crunch time, Salmons can sub for
whoever's playing worse at the time. He can start at SG and move over to
SF when Manu comes in. And the Bulls get their cap relief getting rid of
Salmon's contract.
Trade #2
Thomas, Mahinmi to Wizards
Haywood to Spurs
The Wizards get two young big men to replace Haywood but they're both
expiring contracts so I doubt something like this would happen without the
Wizards getting a draft pick or finding a third team to take Blatche.
I know it's tough enough making just one NBA trade let alone two so this
is stretching it.
Unless this is a 3 team deal, Tyrus Thomas cannot be packaged with another player in another deal.
Unfortunately, you're right. As much as I'd like to see this trade come to fruition, it almost certainly will not and this (along with the fact that it hasn't been reported that it's even been discussed between the two teams) is why.
As for what Bruno said, in terms of the Spurs not taking on that kind of money, that could be another potential stumbling block. Or they could look at it as Dalembert has a slightly smaller '11 expiring contract than Jeffersona and Iguodala, while his deal runs for a lot of years, could be a key building block going forward. Let's face it, this team is going to have trouble drafting (at least so long as Duncan is around and they're attempting to win championships, meaning they'll be picking in the 20s and they won't have substantial, if any, cap space) or acquiring a similar player to build with beyond the Duncan era.
The Spurs don't need Stoudemire. He's another player who needs the ball in his hands to be effective, is a terrible defender, a sub-par rebounder and a mediocre shot blocker. Collison and Anthony aren't enough. Collison is similar to what the Spurs have now, he's another slightly undersized, un-athletic 3rd big and Anthony, while a solid rim protector, is essentially a younger, lesser shot blocking version of Ratliff. Haywood and Camby are perfect. Both are 2nd bigs, both are legit bigs, both are shot blockers, rim protectors, rebounders and decent scorers. The thing I like is they can guard 4's or 5's, so Duncan wouldn't always have to be the lone true big on the court.
This actually makes sense and would be good trade IMO
Yes, because they won't have him next season. Might as well get something in return now than have him walk away getting nothing, much more it's for Parker and Dice.So Miami would even think of trading Wade ???
There is something called the sign and trade.
Thanks, I think it makes perfect sense too. Magic is over the cap now and for the forseeable future. This trade would provide instant cap relief now and down the road.
They could resign Bonner to a smaller deal after this year. Bass is too damn good to be warming the bench over there. The spurs could really use an experienced banger like him. He would be an instant upgrade over Blair in the starting lineup.
But the Player has to agree with it, whereas they can send him anywhere now without his consent.
You do get something out of a sign and trade, so it is not as if they get nothing out of it. Plus, the politics behind trading a top 5 player like Dwyane Wade will result in the fans turning on the team and affect tickeet sales, merchandise sales, etc.But the Player has to agree with it, whereas they can send him anywhere now without his consent.
Yeah, it's unlikely, but possible. We just have to make them remember Shaq with Orlando and Boozer with Cleveland.
Why is this guy even in the discussion. He made Cleveland give him a pay raise on his rookie contract, promised he would resign and then hopped to the Jazz. If LeBron has Boozer now, they are favorites to be 2010 NBA champions.Yeah, it's unlikely, but possible. We just have to make them remember Shaq with Orlando and Boozer with Cleveland.
Last edited by Chieflion; 01-25-2010 at 09:50 PM.
And this team needs to make a trade.
But it's only January...
the regular season, CIA Pop just trying to get the 8th seed and take out the Lakers while his crew is still fresh
Yep they do. But honestly i dont think they can get the right player from a trade because there is a 14 million dollar piece of that doesnt do anything.
Well we shoul be better than what's going on.. I bet we couldve had the same record with spending a boat load.. Disgusting
Turn out the lights, the party's over.
call up Cuban...we'll give you Josh Howard for Manu...best deal ya gonna get
I've lowered my expectations by a lot, and I don't mind these losses at all, as long as they lead to a trade, which is something this team desperately needs..if it doesn't lead to a trade, this team might not even make the playoffs..
Please stop drinking Pop, stop..
to all the "it's only september, october, november, december, january" guys. go yourselves.
this ship was sinking the 1st month.
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