<Insert Big Trade Proposal Here>

[Chieflion]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjuofqe

point guard- Tony, Hill
shooting guard-Manu, Sam Young, bogans
small forward- RJ, Finley
power forward -Tim, Blair
center-Haywood, Theo, Thabeet

I would do this trade in a heartbeat.

what do y'all think?

This trade isn't lopsided enough, maybe you could add O.J. Mayo in the mix?

[EmantheSpursFan]

Grizz are disappointed in thabeet and would gain a cheaper version in Ian and gain a vet to help this young team in McDyess

washington gets beloved RMJ back and a big that can help spread the floor

lol

[Chieflion]

Grizz are disappointed in thabeet and would gain a cheaper version in Ian and gain a vet to help this young team in McDyess

washington gets beloved RMJ back and a big that can help spread the floor

lol

They drafted him as a project, how is Thabeet a disappointment? That alone is lopsided. The Grizzlies are trading a 7 foot 3 center with huge potential as an elite defender and decent scorer and you call it not lopsided. I am sure the Wizards really need more scoring.

[Big P]

Glad you asked.

At first glance they may appear similar but if you really look deeper they are totally different players Blair is a wide body with little athleticism who relies on great timing and long arms to corral rebounds. He has a weak lower base (probably due to not having ACL's) which makes it hard for him to guard stronger players. And he can't guard taller players either. He's pretty much a defensive liability out there.

Bass otoh.

1. Has 5 years of NBA experience playing at a high level. Mavs surely wouldn't have let him go had they realized they weren't getting Gortat. People forget that.

2. Can shoot free throws at +80%, has a GREAT midrange J as well.... Blair doesn't have a perimeter shot to speak of, and his free throw shooting is atrocious.

3. Can finish around the rim with authority. 90% of the time anything he catches in the paint will be dunked with authority. None of this tap-miss-tap-miss-tap-miss .

4. Has tree trunks for legs, and isn't moved very easily. Where Blair relies on weight, Bass uses muscle AND weight. This makes his post defense much better.
Has a couple inches of height over Dejuan which defenitely makes a difference too.

Pretty much all of Blair's weaknesses right now are Bass' strengths. The spurs need a starting quality big man and Bass could be that man.

Thats great and all, but Blair @ $800k per>>>>>>Bass @ $4m per

[EmantheSpursFan]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yz8sy9x

okay how about this to offside the lopside of loosing thabeet

[EmantheSpursFan]

washington looses crittenton who lately has been a huge distraction to the team and the grizz get 3 promising young players and a defensive SG

[Chieflion]

washington looses crittenton who lately has been a huge distraction to the team and the grizz get 3 promising young players and a defensive SG

I don't really know what to say. I think Sam Young stays on the Grizzlies. Bogans stays on the Spurs. There is no need to swap them. If Hairston moves to the Wizards, it will be good, or Nick Young shouldn't be given up. If the Spurs take Thabeet in, Haywood needs to go to the Grizzlies.

[EmantheSpursFan]

Honestly i like Sam Young more than Bogans and i think he's only going to get better, he's not a superstar by any means but he can certanly become a solid rotation player.

[Chieflion]

Honestly i like Sam Young more than Bogans and i think he's only going to get better, he's not a superstar by any means but he can certanly become a solid rotation player.

I think the Grizzlies want to keep Sam Young to be part of their "core" for defensive purposes. If we want Haywood, Thabeet has to go to the Wizards.

[EmantheSpursFan]

I see, sorry last post my girlfriend called me, (its offically her birthday...midnight) blah :p
anyways that distracted me earlier and i can see what your saying about haywood and thabeet. but man one man can dream right? haha

[FeZZy]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yz92cda

NICE

[mountainballer]

Here you guys go, I think you'll like this one:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yhkjjky

great.
hope you don't mind that I tried to upgrade it.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjctkpn

[Mal]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yz92cda

NICE

Throw Finley in to Chicago for Dudley. Bulls looking to clear their roster and have cap space for 2 all- stars. They are looking for expirings.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=ygossjd

[lurker23]

great.
hope you don't mind that I tried to upgrade it.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjctkpn

Thought about that one, but figured it might make too much basketball sense to try to get Hedo back for his contract compared to RJ's.

[ffadicted]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjzw9ms

Parker, Battier, Jefferson, Blair, Duncan start; Hill, Ginobili, McDyess, RMJ off the bench, 9 man rotation, huge upgrade on the perimeter D, no more small ball, insta win

Come on Houston do us a solid lol

[5in10]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjzw9ms

Parker, Battier, Jefferson, Blair, Duncan start; Hill, Ginobili, McDyess, RMJ off the bench, 9 man rotation, huge upgrade on the perimeter D, no more small ball, insta win

Come on Houston do us a solid lol

I think someone on espn actually said for ppl to look for them to trade battier to get even more under the cap for this summer...I do like this trade and would hope houston would cut either finley or bonner.

[HarlemHeat37]

Haywood is currently #3 in ESPN's DPOY rankings, which are written by Dwight Howard..I don't agree with that and it's irrelevant anyways, but Howard HAS said in the past that Haywood is probably the best defender against him, which speaks well and backs up my point about his ability inside..I don't like the hype, it'll bring more suitors..RC needs to make something happen..

[TJastal]

Thats great and all, but Blair @ $800k per>>>>>>Bass @ $4m per

So what is your point exactly? Is the object to spend as little money as possible for another 1st round exit or spend a little more for that missing piece to win a championship?

[FlAVaK]

So what is your point exactly? Is the object to spend as little money as possible for another 1st round exit or spend a little more for that missing piece to win a championship?

4 is way more than 0.8
Like five times more...

And the production of those two players is nearly the same!

So what was your point again?

[TJastal]

4 is way more than 0.8
Like five times more...

And the production of those two players is nearly the same!

So what was your point again?

lol you obviously didn't read a thing I wrote earlier.

[scottspurs]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

The only trade I would be happy with if we are going to trade Manu and/or Tony is:

Spurs get: Dwayne Wade, Lebron James, and Dwight Howard

Cavs get: Manu and Mason

Heat get: Tony and Bonner

Magic get: Jefferson and Finley

The money works (try it) and this is the only way I would want to trade two players that have done so much for the Spurs Franchise.

[Agloco]

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Brandon Bass might be on the trading block, SVG doesn't know how to use him at all, and he loves bigs that can shoot the 3.

So he might be interested in Matt Bonner to act as a backup to Ryan Anderson and Rashard Lewis. Bonner wouldn't see much PT over there but would probably be a much cheaper alternative.

The trade works in the trade machine, and the magic would save 800K this year (more because of being over the cap) and then 8m over the next 2. Spurs would get a starting caliber PF/C that can really bang and has some experience hat Blair is lacking right now. Not to mention ACL's and a much stronger lower base that would help him defend the post much better than Blair.

Gortat otoh I think is pretty much a big part of their plans, doubt Van Gundy has any plans to let him go.

Seriously?

Now Blair has a weak lower base? And that's exactly why the Magic would snap him up?

As for a move.........anything involving RJ would be great by me. He just doesn't work in our system unfortunately. As the weeks have progressed, I've become convinced that he's reached his peak potential with us, which is quite sad.

I'd also be in favor of trading Parker and Manu (preferably not together though)

[HarlemHeat37]

So Arenas is suspended for the season and allegedly WANTS his contract to be avoided..

So can any salary guys(Bruno, mountainballer, etc) explain how this would affect the Wizards' willingness to make a trade..

[TJastal]

Seriously?

Now Blair has a weak lower base? And that's exactly why the Magic would snap him up?

As for a move.........anything involving RJ would be great by me. He just doesn't work in our system unfortunately. As the weeks have progressed, I've become convinced that he's reached his peak potential with us, which is quite sad.

I'd also be in favor of trading Parker and Manu (preferably not together though)

Uh.., ya? Doesn't it makes sense...

It's clear Blair does not have good lateral movement. That is why is pick and roll defense and rotations are slow. Missing the ACL's I have to assume would be a part of this. The ACL's provide the support around his knee for making high impact / high energy explosive moves. He can only apply so much pressure on his knees (which is not alot) or risk injury.

If you haven't noticed, Blair does not jump off the floor very far either, he uses his long limbs and great timing to get rebounds. This falls right in line with his knees not having that kind of strength. Upper body wise he's a defenite load. But you don't use your upper body to hold your position you use your lower body.

[TJastal]

Oh, and my suggestion was to trade Matt Bonner, not Blair. Blair would come off the bench w/ Dice (they make a pretty formidable tandem actually), and Bass would start alongside Duncan.

Magic would save $$$$ with Bonner this year and be able to resign him next year for less than what Bass was making.