Phila, I am assuming you have heard nothing up until this point.
Not that I would ever want k. Martin on our team, but to back you up, there has been rumors about the kings willing to part with kmart because they don't see Martin and Evans as a fit in the backcourt. Most logical people also see Evans as a 2 not a 1 which of course is the same position kmart and why the kings would be willing to part with kmart for the right price.
I don't think acquiring Ray Allen (Edit: or Kevin Martin) would do much for this team. They need a 7 footer that is a good defender and rebounder and not a liability on offense. I don't really like Amare because he's not a great defender or rebounder.
Biedrins and Haywood are probably the two best options as of right now. Getting Biedrins would probably require Finley, Mason, and Bonner. Getting Haywood would require Finley, Bonner, and a draft pick/rights to Splitter. I think either of those trades helps tremendously, especially in the playoffs.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yl58akg
HAHA keep timmy and manu trade everyone else
for those who want brendan haywood, the wizards wanted batum AND fernandez for him. if blazers agree to even just one of them, then they have effectively outbid the spurs. i would not give up george hill for haywood, and the spurs would probably have to give up blair and splitter/1st round. may or may not be worth it to outbid the blazers.
Means the wheels are turning...and gerbils aren't the ones pushing.
Is there any shenanigans we can pull to land Gerald Wallace? Larry and Pop are pals, can he do us a favor?
this would be my dream.
I could cry for a month straight from happiness.
rjeff for gerald wallace! just do it!!!
While we're at it...
Jefferson for Lebron...Let's go Ferry!
Why do these ing noobs keeping opening new threads when this is here??
since paul is injured, hornets should just tank. james posey anyone? his contract is horrible but he adds overall toughness and defense.
this actually got me thinking. spurs can do a last all in move.
richard jefferson + dead weight of bogans/finley + ratliff for okafor and posey.
NO might even have to throw in a pick or two because okafor and posey have horrible contracts. but in the end, this would give NO a serviceable scorer in paul's absence, keep them in the playoff hunt because the last thing they want to do is deal the finishing blow to their franchise by returning to the lottery, and jefferson's contract is like gold compared to posey and okafor's.
for the spurs, they will drastically improve in defense with okafor's interior dominance and posey's mid-range defense.
I was to harsh. sorry for that. I got impatient.
Nobody wants RJ's bad contract, that's why I only used expirings...
I guess it's safe to say that we were the suckers...
RJs contract is a great contract as it expires next year verses a player who has a contract for 3-5 years. (Okafor - 5 years)
The length of the contract is relative if the player delivers what he's being paid for. Whois going to pick up the tab for $14 mill/year for a guy averaging 12PPG?
And people here think Ginobili is overpaid...
i read on espn insider that andre iguodala is still in play. what would be worth giving up? ginobili + picks/splitter? my idea of jefferson + filler for iguodala and dalembert? ginobili + filler for iguodala and dalembert? out of all the players rumored to be available, i think only iguodala wold dramatically improve this team. the question is at what price.
but we also hear that half the Wizards roster is for sale. just for the sake of discussion:
wouldn't a Caron Butler + Haywood duo help out as much or more than Iggy + Dalembert?
for probably a lower asking price and less costs long term?
I would say it depends on what they want..
For impact, you could go either way, and it depends who we would have to give up..I really don't think Butler and Jefferson would fit together at all, so for me it would depend on whether or not RJ is involved..Butler has been a poor defender this season, which might be unusual for him, and he also can't really shoot 3s..I would take him, but I don't know how well he would fit..the thing I'm worried about with Butler would be that the FO would be banking on him to defend like he used to, which is what they tried to do with RJ too, and that obviously hasn't worked out..for the record, I am definitely a fan of Butler, I'm just saying..
Iguodala would be a good fit here, regardless of whether it's Manu or RJ involved in the trade IMO..he's one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA..he doesn't shoot the 3 at a good clip, but that's partly due to shooting too many and the fact that he isn't suited to be a #1 option that has to consistently create his own shot, but he CAN make the 3 at a decent rate when he's in a rhythm..he's also a solid passer and still extremely athletic, so I think he would be a very good fit with the Spurs..
Haywood is my personal preference, I've been watching most of the Wizards games this season, I'm always impressed with his ability as a role player..Dalembert might put up sexier stats, but Haywood is definitely the bigger and better post defender..he's also much less of a bonehead..
I would be happy with either deal though, there isn't much of a difference between the 2 groups..it would completely be up to what they're asking for IMO..I'm assuming Washington will continue to play it tough and not let other teams lowball them since other teams probably feel like the Wizards are vulnerable with all the drama going on..I'm assuming Philly is going to act like they want teams to take back Brand if they want Iguodala..
I'm sure the right deal can be made around the deadline..the question for me is whether the Spurs are willing to give up Manu, Splitter and/or Hill or Blair, whether the Spurs FO is scared to attempt to pull off another "big" trade, and whether or not the Spurs FO feels like our current roster will be enough with gelling and health..
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