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People thought Steve Nash wasn't worth the money, but that system made him a two-time MVP. It favors passers and shooters, which describes Manu's game. Half court games are just as grueling on the body as run N' gun.
I was thinking that maybe the Suns would want an expiring contract and Jefferson. They then would convince RJ to opt out of his final year and then resign him long term for about 10 million a year. That would bring them further under the cap to pursue a free agent in 2010 but it's just not enough to make this deal work.
People thought Steve Nash wasn't worth the money, but that system made him a two-time MVP. It favors passers and shooters, which describes Manu's game. Half court games are just as grueling on the body as run N' gun.
If the Spurs don't trade Manu, I bet they extend him after the trade deadline.
I would trade RJ for Amare, but not Manu.
unfortunately i dont see manu having much left in the tank past next year. if you guys want to give him 3 more years worth 30 mil ( which he will be asking for )... do you really think he can hold up. ???????? i mean seriously. i love manu but c'mon
So basically you're saying the Suns will win in the end?
I hope not.
a Kaman like player is what we need... Not Amare... things are shaping in such way that if Manu is gone for Amare... he may accept a buyout but I highly doubt he'd come back to the Spurs... Celtics, Cavs and the Lakers would be the best suitors for him... heck even Orlando or Atlanta...
love Tyrus Thomas. Dude looks like he's bunjee jumping when ppl try to score in his basket.
Do it!
Here's something that the Suns should not resist -
Spurs
Out- Trade RJ to Clips, Blair to Suns, Tiago's rights to Suns, 2010 first round pick.
In - Amar'e from Suns, Ricky Davis from Clips (I know he is a plague, but this is his contract year and I remember Glen Robinson "played" for us not long back).
Suns
Out- Amar'e to Spurs
In - Blair from Spurs, Camby from Clips, Tiago Rights, Get under the cap.
Clips
Out - Camby to Suns, Davis to Spurs
In - RJ, 2010 First Round Pick of Spurs
Nets
Out - None
In - Mahinmi
ESPN Trade link - here
Would the Clips say no? They got Kaman locked at 5, Griffin at 4, and a good 82 game player in RJ along with Baron Davis and Eric Gordon for next season. No free agent is coming to the Clips next season and RJ is as good as they can get if they get him rightaway. Heck, he even helps them in this year's playoff run ambitions... FWIW.
Spurs squad after trade -
Parker/Hill
Ginobili/Mason/Hairston
Bogans/Finley/Davis
Stoudemire/McDyess/Bonner
Duncan/Ratliff
Last edited by Spursfanfromafar; 01-27-2010 at 01:56 PM.
Where's the puke icon for Ricky Davis... Yuck.
I know ..The alternative is Telfair..
Stephon Marbury thinks Ricky Davis is a cancer
I'm sorry but Stoudemire is not the answer to our problems. That dude does not play any defense. And if we have learned anything it's you can't get a player who has already been molded into a certain type of player to change his style of play(see RJ, Haslip, ect.). Yeah if we want a chance at winning this year some type of move has to be made, but this isn't it. We would be better off waiting for next year and getting Tiago Splitter in a Spurs uniform. The Spurs better pull out all the stops on that one. That is my only glimmer of hope of keeping the championship window open.
Tyrus Thomas isn't an answer either when realistically considering that we're the Spurs and Pop is the coach. Pop would play him 5 games and then sit him. How would Thomas fit in where other BBIQ-challenged big men have failed?
It's like the Gooden situation all over again, except Thomas has less fundamentals.
More importantly, if we want a super athletic big man why not...I don't know...just play Ian. He's already paid for. He actually plays defense unlike Amare (and most likely Thomas) and most importantly, he knows the impossible to learn defensive schemes already. No way Amare or Thomas can learn them in time for the playoffs.
I don't mind a big trade but it should at least make some sense.
If we want to split up the Big 3, then I think trading Parker makes way more sense. We could get a lot more options in return. And though his health isn't perfect this year, no one thinks he can't return to last year's level.
Besides, the fanbase will revolt if Manu is shipped out for a half-season rental and it doesn't work out.
Amare had microfacture knee surgury. Microfacture surgury used to mean retirement. Some have returned to the game, but none can play like they did before. Imagine Amare without the freakish athletic skills.
No thanks.
Yes,Manu can leave us this summer.What about Parker? Is he going to re-sign here next summer? If we aren't stupid we can't paid him more because he will be at 30 so he's not going to be better when his better talent is quickness and speed.
If we are ready to make a big trade it would think in the next summer.Free all the money we can to go for Chris Bosh or someone better.
When we talk about Amare we have to think that he's not good enough to lead this team to the championship,same Parker,same RJ,of course same Manu..... We can't have 3-4 players with an all star player's contract in the same team if they arent enough good together to bring back the tle.
Too much money.That's what happen this year and what is going to happen the next years with that kind of trades.
TP/RJ/Amare/TD = TP/RJ/Manu/Duncan = second round at best
I will put RJ+Manu or Parker in any trade.Only to free money.Right now we need a Superstar,not a nearly all-star.
This is the only way I would be happy with Amare here and it's not going to happen:
If we are going to trade for Amare then I will try to bring here Nash too.Last dance for him and Tim this year while they still playing very good and we will have to rebuild from the draft or the free agent market in 2 years.
Parker+RJ+Dice for Nash+Amare
Nash
Manu
Amare
TD
And we need to add a SF who can hit 3s.Not defense and a lot of fun but maybe not enought to win anyway.Of course Pop never would play that basketball so fire him too.
I agree.
I think we should trade with the Wizards. Get Butler and Haywood. Butler is quick off the drible and off of screens. He is also a good solid rebounder at the SF position. Also a good playmaker. Haywood is a big ass C who I know would help out the Spurs right away.
lol just trade manu and TD to suns instead .... same team ....
Hill
Ginobili
Butler
Duncan
Haywood
We aren't trading Tony Parker..enough with that..
Im just sayin...
Can we get a 1st round draft pick too? I wonder if we could get more for Parker?
But we are trading Manu?
How is Tony going to mesh with Amare? Probably not great.
How is Manu acceptable and Parker not? Tell me what you're thinking.
I'm not in favor of trading Amare for Manu at all..I said I would only want Amare if the deal involves RJ or the expirings in some sort of way..I also don't believe these rumors mean anything, they're just rumors..
I can't really think of any realistic deals that would involve Manu or Parker that I would like..
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"Not that the Spurs would get Amar'e, but that they may be part of a multi-team deal to make it possible for Phoenix to move him."
This thread should have ended back there...
How long ago did he have that surgery? Dude is still a freak athletically today.
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