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    Bad move if it does go down. Spurs will be downgrading their defensive frontline even more than they should.

    However if RJ is part of the deal, I'm willing to let it go through. Im tired of that gutless .

    I cant however tolerate seeing Manu traded.
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    It can't be stressed enough how getting Stoudemire will not really help if he does not have a good set up player next to him, which is why trading Manu for him is a bad idea. So if they trade away their only decent set up player, then add a player who needs one, is an inconsistent rebounder and has zero interest in playing defense how does that make them any better? I just don't see this trade happening.

    As Bruno and others have said, the good thing about all of this is that the Spurs recognize the need to make a move to keep this team in the hunt. Hopefully this one is not the move.

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    Jefferson + Splitter + 1st round + a choice between Blair,Dice and Ian
    = in a heartbeat easily

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    How would you feel if the Suns would like:

    RJ
    Manu
    Hill
    Blair

    for

    Amare
    J. Richardson

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yhdno2h

    No changes, no iffs, AS IS: Would YOU pull the trigger?

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    How would you feel if the Suns would like:

    RJ
    Manu
    Hill
    Blair

    for

    Amare
    J. Richardson

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yhdno2h

    No changes, no iffs, AS IS: Would YOU pull the trigger?
    Yeah..I will pull the trigger on whoever who makes this trade.

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    Sign Stoudamire and add yet another horrific defender to this team? Why? The Spurs certainly need an athletic big next to Duncan, but they need to shore up their incredible defensive woes too. Stoudamire probably plays the worst defense this side of Dirk. He doesn't even try. Plus he's a lazy rebounder. This is a sign of a desparate front office and I just don't see how this helps the Spurs.

    I've read through the threads and no one has addressed Stoudamire's need to have the ball. And who is going to get him the ball? TP doesn't play well off pick-n-roll right as it is. Are the Spurs expecting Stoudamire to be as effective in a Spurs uniform as he is with Nash as a running mate? I think not.

    If the brass still want to do this deal, it had better not include Blair, Hill or Ian. I'm still against it, but if they wanna ship out a combination of Bonner, RJ and Splitter's rights, then re-up Amare for a couple of seasons, I could live with it.
    +1 Stoudemire would have the same problem Richard Jefferson has, not enough touches to get a rhythym and nobody to create opportunities for him.

    I can't believe the spurs are even considering this.

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    I'm sure if Manu is traded the Suns would have to throw in J-Rich on some other spotup shooter! Splitter, Finely, Bonner, Ian would have to work for Stupamire! They might want Blair. Imagine Manu & Stupamire on a P&R! They'll figure away to keep Manu. They was saying lastnite the need a sub for Nash cuz he plays to many mins so they might want Hill.

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    lets try to add bosh on our roster...he is texan moreover...
    bosh will be our gasol but younger and finally we will have our twin towers back and duncan will get the role of drob?

    and lets sign kevin durant in 2 years from now....woaaaa i dream so much

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    I'm sure if Manu is traded the Suns would have to throw in J-Rich on some other spotup shooter! Splitter, Finely, Bonner, Ian would have to work for Stupamire! They might want Blair. Imagine Manu & Stupamire on a P&R! They'll figure away to keep Manu. They was saying lastnite the need a sub for Nash cuz he plays to many mins so they might want Hill.
    No, they wouldn't want Hill because they already have Dragic. The only reason the Suns might want Hill is if they shipped out Barbosa too.

    Anyway, I'm not sure this trade would be good for the Spurs and I definitely don't see how it would be good for the Suns.

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    It can't be stressed enough how getting Stoudemire will not really help if he does not have a good set up player next to him, which is why trading Manu for him is a bad idea. So if they trade away their only decent set up player, then add a player who needs one, is an inconsistent rebounder and has zero interest in playing defense how does that make them any better?
    Totally agree, the only way I can see it work would be if we're offering some package around RJ and Hill or Blair but the Suns would get much better offers than that, so it's a no-go.

    If we trade for Amare it'd be either because we're willing to grand him the extension he wants or if we want his expiring contract to free up some cap space. I don't see why the Suns would do expiring for expirings and we don't really have great picks or assets to entice them. I also see no way we give him the max extension that Pho refused to give him.

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    Also, I thought the Spurs problem was defense, would bringing Amare in help with that??

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    Stoudemire's production would take a huge dip not having Nash spoon feed him. He'd have to work harder for his shots.

    And on the other side, RJ would flourish in the Suns system if we were to send him over there (though I know he wouldn't be the one to go).

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    Also, I thought the Spurs problem was defense, would bringing Amare in help with that??
    Amare's probably a much better 5 than Roger Mason for defensive sets.

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    Amare's probably a much better 5 than Roger Mason for defensive sets.
    Anything to stop small ball, eh?

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    Amare's probably a much better 5 than Roger Mason for defensive sets.
    Loooool! Thank you! Somebody here understands a bit of ball..

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    I saw the news this morning and at first I thought, "No Amare this, No Amare that." But Why exactly not? Depending on who we have to give up obviously, but if it doesn't include our Big 4, why the NOT? We literally can not get worse defensivley, it's not possible. This way Pop will HAVE to play Stat and Duncan together. Could you imagine having to guard Manu and Stat on a P&P? Yah his defense is not there, but when have the Suns EVER talked about Defense? With Duncan and Pop Stat will be motivated since he WILL be close to a championship team and he WILL get his touches, which makes Duncans role even less, + on the defensive end. I'm all for this, because realistically we're not getting Camby, nor Haywood for a matter of fact. Even after Duncans days are done, I have NP with Tony, Hill, STAT and Spliteer (Hopefully).


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    Anything to stop small ball, eh?
    Amare playing the 4 or 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jefferson, Ginobili, Mason, Finley, or an under performing Dice at any big man position.

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    Amare playing the 4 or 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jefferson, Ginobili, Mason, Finley, or an under performing Dice at any big man position.
    I agree to that. Some people fail to see it though. And we need a go-to scorer besides Duncan, that can't be disputed.

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    Cool. How many D-League guys are the Spurs going to sign to make up the required number?

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    Didn't Barbosa just have surgery?

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    Didn't Barbosa just have surgery?
    Yep. I posted it earlier. He removed a cyst from his wrist. Out for 4-6 weeks. That is almost till the end of the regular season.

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    Mahinmi playing the 4 or 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jefferson, Ginobili, Mason, Finley, or an under performing Dice at any big man position.
    Until proven otherwise, this.

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    trading Richard Jefferson, Splitter, and filler for Stoudamire makes sense for both teams.

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    Horrible idea.

    Lets just get rid of our best pick and roll passer (Manu) for a pick and roll dunker.

    And you know Tony doesn't pass like Nash can.
    So, why not .....

    Parker and Manu for Nash and Amare ?

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