The idea of a Duncan & Amare front-court is mouth-watering. But as you say, it seems unlikely the Suns will agree to trade him to the Spurs. Besides, as you say, who can the Spurs give up in return to make this trade worthwhile for the Suns? Ironically, the Big Three have been doing OK so far: Manu is healthier than he had been for years and with a bit more game time under his belt could be on fire come playoff time; Duncan is having an MVP year and anyways should never be traded full stop; and Parker - well, he's slowed down this year, but he's clearly injured and I think he has too much upside to consider trading and he's still fairly young. Which only leaves the Spurs possibly giving up RJ with his fat contract and perhaps another good player such as Mason. Not sure what works financially, though.. But despite Amare being one of the arch-rivals of the Spurs in years past, I think it's def worth looking at. He has the nastiness, toughness down low that Duncan and the Spurs need right now
IF HE GO I GO! You may say who cares but that would affect ratings an attendance! I get NBA league pass every year to watch the Spurs but I wouldn't if they trade Manu or let him walk after this year. That wolud affect Time warner so imagine how many people think like that! Time warner would have to make that money up somewhere. Its called the "Manu Affect"! Who's with me? Lmao
Amire would be no better then what Gooden was for us IMO. He would probebly be in Pop's dog house in less then 5 minutes.
trade manu !?
A Spur's fan our a player's fan?
Even if TD was no longer on this team I would still bere there.
Amire would be no better then what Gooden was for us IMO. He would probebly be in Pop's dog house in less then 5 minutes.
Pop will need to adjust his style....
This makes a lot more sense. I wonder what will be in it for us?Two different NBA sources told me Tuesday the Spurs have come up in the Amar'e Stoudemire sweepstakes. Not that the Spurs would get Amar'e, but that they may be part of a multi-team deal to make it possible for Phoenix to move him.
We throw in an expiring or two to make ends meet, and get a player and pick?
"Amare with the double pump reverse jam, and the foul!" -Sean Elliott
Spurs fans explode with excitement.
"Look, what is Pop doing? He is subbing Stoudemire out. I don't believe it." -Sean Elliott
Nah, I am just kidding, looks like it could be a 3 way deal. I wonder if the Spurs could nab someone good.
Something to consider is that Spurs fanbase and Spurs FO aren't maybe at all on the same page about Manu.
Last summer, when Bruce was waived, the consensus among fans was that he was still good and that it was a no-brainer to bring him back for the min. Spurs decided that he was done and signed Bogans for the min.
The consensus among fans about Manu is that he is still a big part of the team and that he shouldn't be traded. I don't know what the FO thinks about Manu but it's possible that their point of view is quite opposite and consider that it's time to move up with Manu and use his contract in a trade like they did last summer with Bruce.
Amare sucks. Trading for him would be the final death knell to Spurs Defense Is First philosophy. Spurs are already, in the words of Pop, "Scoring more than we ever have in our lives." Players are struggling but those struggles will become minute once defense fully becomes priority #1 for this team. I can't remember how many times this yr Tim as said "We have to start with improving the defense, everything else will then follow.
I hate this trade. Amare is the wrong piece.
I think this might has more to do with them thinking they're not going to be able to make him a compe ive offer as an unrestricted free agent, and the message Manu sent a little while ago saying he would listen to all the options out there when the summer comes around. Spurs might want to part ways to at least get something in return.
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=980682 -Stoudemire to Spurs trade thread, read at your own risk.
LOL at $20 in my wallet >>> rights to Tiago Splitter.
Another article, not sure if its been posted:
Stoudemire could be headed to San Antonio
By Mark J. Miller
There have been rumors these past few days of the Phoenix Suns sending forward Amar'e Stoudemire(notes) off to the Chicago Bulls, New Jersey Nets, or Miami Heat. But now it appears that the San Antonio Spurs have a pretty good chance of landing him and are planning to give it a shot, according to Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.
Wojnarowski has it that the Spurs have had numerous in-house conversations about trading for Stoudemire (things like "Would we give up Manu Girobili?"). Any way you slice it, the Spurs are interested in seeing if a deal can somehow be done, particularly after losing five of its last six games and falling into sixth place in the Western Conference.
"They know they've got to do something," a source that understands what's shaking in the Spurs' front office told Wojnarowski. "They feel like they've got to at least look at this ... and they are."
Meanwhile, Pat Riley and the Heat may just wait till Stoudemire is a free agent this summer and try to snag him as well as re-sign Dwyane Wade(notes).
I think any team trading for Amare would either have an extension inked before the trade or have an agreement to sign an extension included as a clause in the trade (if that's legal....).
If Splitter IS coming to the League next season, it's not worth trading his rights. Even for Stoudemire.
If he doesn't, however, I fear that will just be the first step to him become Scola 2.0.
The most likely is that Manu best offer in the FA market will be $19M/3 years. It isn't crazy money. If Spurs don't want to offer him that kind of contract, doesn't it mean that they are moving on from Manu?
Comparing Bruce Bowen of last year with this year's Manu is unwarranted. Bowen was 38 years old, playing sparingly (but effectively within very limited minutes). Manu is coming back from injury and is not rounding into true form at the offense level beyond a terrific passing game. His explosion and near-rim offense is worse than ever, but not unsalvage-able. His PER is still elite - more than 20 and that means that he is contributing enough for his salary unlike RJ.
The Spurs FO surely knows what it would lose if Ginobili goes away; it loses a player with the X factor and a winning drive, not to mention someone who can change the course of the game in seconds on the floor. Bowen, on the other hand, was clearly at the late end of his career and the Spurs FO knew it. The Spurs FO will not throw in the towel with Ginobili as you make it out to be.
From the limited that I have seen in this season, Manu has actually performed even better than TP, despite his underwhelming returns on court. If the Spurs are to contend for a championship, it has to keep its Core 3 intact. Their experiment with RJ has failed so far and thats why he must be the fall guy. Question is, whether RJ with his contract can get them someone who can help in the drive as a sureshot.
me too...
Don using timvp and SpursTalk yet again.
RJ and Splitter...do it. RJ would actually thrive in their uptempo offense, and i believe Pop could make Amare play some D here.
it would have to be for manu for phoenix to entertain it im sure
if sa could guarantee amare resgins and teams up with tony for years to come after timmy it may be worth it.....the fact sa is in the hunt is a intriguing
Once a team like NY or NJ lands one of the top FA next summer, they're going to want to augment their roster with role playing vets. Manu is a shoe-in for that. Guy doesn't need to dominate the ball and can still make everyone play. Health also doesn't seem to be a concern any longer, and unlike Bowen who was 38, Manu is 33...
The question is, if Manu is offered between $24M and $27M for 3 years, do the Spurs try to match?
i personally would love if we were to land Stoudemire. Even though he's had his injury problems himself, I think that acqiring him would revert SA back to how we initially started winning championships. Bring the Twin Towers back!!! Be would be just that much more of a threat.
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