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    I learned about American imperialism by living abroad and talking to people. Here are some books on the subject.

    http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Hope-C...7469199&sr=1-1

    (excerpts)
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Bl...Hope_page.html


    http://www.amazon.com/Washington-Con...7469337&sr=1-1

    (excerpts)
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/He...m_ChomHer.html

    Here's an online book written by an American general.
    http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/ar...risaracket.htm


    Here's some more stuff on Amerian imperialism. The first three links give a good summary. I posted the long list below of articles and videos if anyone wants to see the details.

    http://www.fas.org/man/smedley.htm
    http://mtwsfh.blogspot.com/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0JCJ4pIFEw


    http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/history/2002/0413angola.htm
    http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/42a/127.html
    http://www.namebase.org/scott.html
    http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle4377.htm
    http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Bl...Hope_page.html
    http://michaelparenti.org/Imperialism101.html
    http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19860409.htm
    http://www.antipasministries.com/html/file0000133.htm
    http://www.chss.montclair.edu/englis...skyin1282.html
    http://www.michaelparenti.org/yugoslavia.html
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Ze...Boomerang.html
    http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/articles/l30iran.htm
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13622.htm
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjlpqANnqX4
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...1+%289%2F11%29
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11635.htm
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8171.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAqG5...related&search=
    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle14295.htm
    http://www.jonhs.net/911/911_american_empire.htm
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=4245
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...mala+coup+1954
    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle17988.htm
    http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle13768.htm
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi5h3vZl6uo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAeWqBQr1GA
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/libya-and-imperialism/

    For more info, go into the "Search" feature of this site below and enter things such as "Death squads", "Torture", or "CIA".
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/


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    Starting on page 6 of this thread a campaign is being waged to bury my posts to keep the young people reading here from seeing the info. I'm therefore going to post links to the posts they are trying to bury here in order to thwart them.

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8581138
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8602058
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8603365
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145531&page=10&p=8605505&viewfull =1#post8605505
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8700387
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145531&page=10&p=8751724&viewfull =1#post8751724
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8924852
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    We're coming to get you muh-ha ha-ha hee hee ha ha hee hee!!

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    Sadly, there is a kernel of truth in this hysteria. The sun never sets on the US military.

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    This is all socialist crap. WTF?? Do you seriously want to put up capitalist ran countries against communist ones? Put up all the atrocities from a free elected countries army against the "people's" army?
    Furthermore look at how atrocities come out in free elected countries. From themselves. How about from the communists? You don't find out until it gets out. You don't find out until the govt. collapses. The irony is that you get to see this kind of information because it is not a completely socialist country.

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    Swell. Why exactly are US military installations needed in ~80 countries around the globe to provide for the national defense today?

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    Swell. Why exactly are US military installations needed in ~80 countries around the globe to provide for the national defense today?
    What if FDR never made the deal to take over the atlantic in in ww2? What would our world look like then. What if we didn't station troops in Germany? What if Churchill didn't make the deal of splitting up Eastern Europe like he did? What would Europe look like right now? What would the country look like if any other country developed the atomic weapon first?

    Do you think we would be safe as a country had we not had installations all over and maintained our military as one if not the best in the world? These are actual questions btw.

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    What is the threat today?

    Further, why is every other grand war which turned out with the American state triumphant referenced as justification for wars which have exposed baldly the downside to this great military and its influence in the national government? Or why must we dream up some mythical potential conflict?

    Or if you accept that there are future dangers to this country, does not the fact that a country which was mired in a major depression was nonetheless able to summon a military to deal with an existential threat in little time provide a justification for ramping down the military in times of non-existential threats?
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    "to take over the atlantic in in ww2"

    That was a war by the Axis aggressors against our Euro-cousins.

    800 bases world-wide now, in peace time, with the US defense budget and throw-power vastly out distancing the SUM of the rest of the plane'ts military power, is not justifiable, except to stuff the MIC with profits.

    Meanwhile 1000s of US babies and mothers die every year for want of perinatal care, but the military always gets its $600B+, 5-star, gold-plated, unaccounted-for budget, and endless wars.

    "Do you think we would be safe as a country had we not had installations all over"

    yes, of course. Those bases intimidate no one (but there's no one to be intimidated any more). Those bases are nothing but a sink for US national wealth. At best, they are a transfer of wealth from taxpayers to the MIC.

    I've noticed that our kick-ass military, after 8 years of trying, hasn't kicked the ass/beaten of a bunch of ragheads in two countries.

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    Or, the state spent $500 billion or so annually on "national defense" and couldn't prevent a significant attack on the country by nineteen individuals armed with box cutters.

    The "conservative" blind spot will always be the Pentagon. What an odd world in which we live in today.

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    @SnC:

    The alternate universe explanation may not apply to this one. MB used present indicative, not pluperfect subjunctive and capped the whole thing with the word today.

    Not some counterfactual bull from 65-70 years ago. Whatever one's disposition is on that as a matter of historical speculation, it doesn't necessarily relate to one's present take on the matter. The pieties of another day don't necessarily apply to you and me, SnC, and they don't necessarily apply to the present question, except as a dog whistle for those already believe the same.

    Just my guess, people would hate us a little less if we were a little more humble in our foriegn policy, and a little less America, yeah!

    (Just look what that voting for that got us.)

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    This is all socialist crap. WTF?? Do you seriously want to put up capitalist ran countries against communist ones? Put up all the atrocities from a free elected countries army against the "people's" army?
    Furthermore look at how atrocities come out in free elected countries. From themselves. How about from the communists? You don't find out until it gets out. You don't find out until the govt. collapses. The irony is that you get to see this kind of information because it is not a completely socialist country.
    I never said Communist governments didn't commit atrocities. The fact that communist governments commit atrocities doesn't make atrocities committed by the US go away.
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis...ckingbird.html
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    The Association for Responsible Dissent estimates that 6 million people had died by 1987 as a result of CIA covert operations, called an "American Holocaust" by former State Department official William Blum.
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    I'm not advocating Communism here. That's a totally different issue.
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    I never said Communist governments didn't commit atrocities. The fact that communist governments commit atrocities doesn't make atrocities committed by the US go away.
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis...ckingbird.html
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    The Association for Responsible Dissent estimates that 6 million people had died by 1987 as a result of CIA covert operations, called an "American Holocaust" by former State Department official William Blum.
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    I'm not advocating Communism here. That's totally different issue.
    The excerps I did look at that you posted came from socialist websites, or communist groups.

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    If only we would just leave, they would just love us.

    dat's right...uh huh.

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    Or, the state spent $500 billion or so annually on "national defense" and couldn't prevent a significant attack on the country by nineteen individuals armed with box cutters.

    The "conservative" blind spot will always be the Pentagon. What an odd world in which we live in today.
    The pentagon is a huge problem but to blame the dept. of defense, you would have to change their mission.

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    If only we would just leave, they would just love us.

    dat's right...uh huh.

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    Weatherman Ted: Ok, I'll do that.

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    You still don't get it, SouthernFried: Serving up yet another battered and deep-fried southern pla ude doesn't get you to the finish line. That's just where your argument fell down again again.

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    Ah, yes, the horrible Americans. Just think what a blissful Utopia the world would be without the US military. It would be just like that Disney ride "It's a Small World".


    Sincerely,


    Childlike leftist thinking

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    Who's delivering food, water, etc. to Haiti?

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    Washington Post:


    As food distribution improves, Haitians want U.S to 'take over'


    PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI -- International relief organizations backed by American soldiers delivered hundreds of tons of rice to homeless residents of the Haitian capital Sunday, laboring to ease a food shortage that has left countless thousands struggling to find enough to eat.

    But even as food-aid workers enjoyed their most successful day since the Jan. 12 earthquake, the increasingly prominent role of U.S. troops and civilians in the capital is creating high expectations that the Obama administration is struggling to contain.

    The needs are extraordinary, and the common refrain is that the Americans will provide.

    "I want the Americans to take over the country. The Haitian government can't do anything for us," said Jean-Louis Geffrard, a laborer who lives under a tarp in the crowded square. "When we tell the government we're hungry, the government says, 'We're hungry, too.' "

    Added Canga Matthieu, a medical student whose school was destroyed: "The American government should take care of us."

    "They're well organized. The United States is the richest country in the world, and they can help."

    But help has its limits, U.S. officials emphasize in their public statements and in their interactions with Haitians. "You will have a friend and partner in the United States of America today and going forward," President Obama said the day after the earthquake. But U.S. officials here make it clear that the American government is not responsible for rebuilding the ravaged country.

    "The military forces . . . are not here to do any reconstruction. That is not our mission," said Col. Rick Kaiser, a U.S. Army engineer overseeing emergency repairs to the Port-au-Prince docks, the electrical and water systems, and other battered infrastructure in the hemisphere's poorest country.

    Administration officials, including Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, describe virtually every activity here as "Haiti-led," although the government is barely functioning and its record was checkered even before the earthquake killed more than 110,000 people and leveled an array of government ministries.

    Louis Lucke, the senior U.S. Agency for International Development official in Haiti, stood in an American-run medical complex Saturday with President René Préval and told reporters that "the Haitians are leading the process in all the areas that are necessary" -- including food distribution, despite strong evidence to the contrary.

    U.S. officials are doing what they can to bolster the stature of Préval and Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive and to promote international assistance efforts for the more-daunting work that lies ahead. In the meantime, they are deploying personnel to support projects from food delivery to the erection of a temporary hospital near Port-au-Prince.

    Sgt. 1st Class Jason Jacot, an Army engineer, drove to a critical power station in the Delmas neighborhood Sunday morning to assess repairs made by Haitian and Dominican workers.

    Markestre Theolien, a supervisor with Haiti Electricity, the national utility, lamented the condition of the 27-year-old transformers and asked for new ones. Asked where the help should come from, he smiled and said, "U.S.A."

    "So they're expecting us to take over?" Jacot asked a translator. "No, no, no. How can we assist without completely rebuilding? We're not here to rebuild."

    The discussion went back and forth cordially. Jacot said he would be talking with the utility's director to learn what was needed. Theolien defined his bottom line: "What we really want is the United States to rebuild it, to modernize."

    U.S. soldiers, whose numbers within Haiti have risen to 6,500, played a central role in Sunday's food distributions, working alongside U.N. peacekeepers to prevent the pushing, shoving and occasional melees that have severely hampered deliveries. Where U.S. troops have been present in recent days, relief workers say, deliveries have gone smoothly.

    By day's end, the U.N. World Food Program calculated that roughly 400 metric tons of rice had been delivered to nine sites. Five more locations will be running early in the week, a spokesman said, but increased gang violence in the Cité Soleil slums made deliveries too risky.

    The generally smooth deliveries on Sunday, based on a new system of ration cards, were met with pleasure at the Place du Canape Vert, an impromptu settlement where several hundred families received large sacks marked "Product of USA" or "USA Best Rice." Yet some asked when there would be something more than rice, while others wanted to know why they were left out.

    Deliveries will resume Monday as the World Food Program, bolstered by an $80 million U.S. contribution, seeks to reach 2 million people in the next two weeks. The agency hopes the system will lead to distribution of other badly needed food and relief supplies.

    At the ramshackle encampment, some residents were boiling water for rice within an hour of the delivery. Some had beans or root vegetables to add, and a few had meat. Those who could afford neither complained that rice alone would not be enough.

    "It's there, but we can do nothing with it. We only got rice. No oil, nothing. And it's not easy to find water," said Flore Laurent, who is eight months pregnant. But she had nothing but praise for the role of the American soldiers. "I vote for the help of the U.S., 100 percent."

    A throng of people in the square discussed their lack of faith in Haitian authorities. One after another, they said their only hope is the United States.

    "The Haitian government has been here for a while, and they give us nothing. The United States should take over the country," said Andrelita Laguerre, shepherding four children and a grandchild at the camp. "Most of my friends expect the United States to take over. I wish!"

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    I thought a welfare state was bad? Make up your minds...

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    The Empire of the United States of America

    has a nice ring to it.

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    Who wants to be loved by the rest of the world in the first place?

    America has no money. No money should go towards outsiders until there is a surplus.

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    gees marcus haven't you learned from SNC that the only way to follow this country is blindly?

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    The UN is the current bad cop, even though it is the traditional US role so see to it Haiti's creole kleptocrats are not disturbed by politicians or the Haitian people in the enjoyment of their hard won booty. It makes sense that Haitians see us not just as the kingmaker, but as the possible king.

    (Maybe some of them are getting tired of indirect US rule.)

    An intriguing farrago of reporting on Haiti's 2006 election can be found at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=2061
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