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    Do you know Raja Bell's health status?

    If he is healthy and ready to go, I think his addition would help more than people think. That is if he's 100 percent and in game shape.
    Last I looked, the best I could tell is he'd be ready to play again in March. Since that is another month away, it doesn't make much sense to trade for him now. The Spurs would likely wait until the trade deadline ... unless the Warriors are pushing for a completion of the deal.

    As for Bell, I wouldn't love the deal but he'd be an improvement over Bogans. Plus, anyone willing to knock Kobe on his azz is a friend of mine

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    I know we all look at our Spurs with stars in our eyes but George Hill is not good enough to be a full-time starter at PG for "numerous teams". He's continuing to improve but he's not an efficient scorer and he doesn't really make up for that in other ways like great passing or rebounding. Parker is a little bit of a one-trick pony but his trick, scoring super-efficiently, is a damn good one.
    Ok now obviously Im not refering to teams like Utah, Chicago, or Phoenix...but Im pretty sure several teams like the Lakers, Heat, Knicks, Pacers, Sixers, etc would be upgrading with Hill. What about Hill's play makes some of you guys suggest that he isnt capable of being a starter...the kid is out there playing great agressive basketball and efficiently managing the game. He takes care of the basketball better than Parker and puts up solid numbers albeit in a different manner.

    If I had to guess the player involved, I'd guess RMJ. Pop was disgusted with his missed shots against Denver and again was mad this game when Mason kept missing wide open players and being careless. Perhaps the Spurs are ready to pull the trigger on something like Mason and Finley for Raja Bell and CJ Watson . . . . . .
    I think Raja Bell had season ending surgery when he was trade to GS, he'd been playing through the injury in Charlotte because theyre making a playoff push but once he was traded to GS he packed it in and opted for surgery.

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    raja bell hasnt hasn't had season ending surgery right now he is rumored to be traded to the celtics though

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    Raja Bell had season ending surgery when he was trade to GS, he'd been playing through the injury in Charlotte because theyre making a playoff push but once he was traded to GS he packed it in and opted for surgery.
    He had the cast removed about 3 weeks ago and supposedly will be ready in a month or so.

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    On the offensive side, I would much rather attain a player that is able to get to the middle of any defense and create easy opportunities for himself and others.
    So you want to trade for Kobe Bryant?

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    Stoudamire and Dragic?

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    It's clear, GH3 is the new sheriff in town. I hope Tony Parker is a part of these trade rumors.

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    It's clear, GH3 is the new sheriff in town. I hope Tony Parker is a part of these trade rumors.

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    I think Raja Bell had season ending surgery when he was trade to GS, he'd been playing through the injury in Charlotte because theyre making a playoff push but once he was traded to GS he packed it in and opted for surgery.
    Incorrect. Just looked it up:

    Raja Bell had the cast removed from his surgically-repaired wrist in mid-January, and the Warriors are still hopeful that he can contribute at some point this season.

    "I think he will play again," GM Larry Riley said. "Now, I don’t know how soon, but I think he will play some."
    If he got the cast removed a few weeks ago, perhaps he's about ready to play now?

    Hmmm ... if the Warriors have a standing offer that revolved around RMJ for Bell (Ludden wrote that the Spurs turned down that deal earlier in the season) , the recent events align. Pop first threw Mason under the bus for missing shots -- something I can't remember Pop ever doing in his coaching history. Now this rumor pops up the next game? Add in Pop being a huge Raja Bell fan and we might be cooking.







    Or I could be reading too much into it. We'll see

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    I know we all look at our Spurs with stars in our eyes but George Hill is not good enough to be a full-time starter at PG for "numerous teams". He's continuing to improve but he's not an efficient scorer and he doesn't really make up for that in other ways like great passing or rebounding. Parker is a little bit of a one-trick pony but his trick, scoring super-efficiently, is a damn good one.
    Wrong... if George Hill gets the playing time, he will be almost exactly like Devin Harris. Too bad Dallas let go of something so good... whatever...

    On a side note, i'm actually for the Spurs trading expiring contracts for Amare. We need more low-post presence.

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    This trade rumor plus Beno suddenly not playing had me scared. Thankfully, he was actually injured (bruised heel and plantar fasciitis) and not being sat out due to an impending trade. Trading for Beno and his ~$22 million over three years remaining on his contract would have ended in disaster.

    I haven't heard anything to go along with this rumor ... but it's definitely one that shouldn't be ignored. Why would a Kings announcer randomly say something so specific about the opposing team? Either he made a mistake or there is fire beneath the smoke.

    If I had to guess the player involved, I'd guess RMJ. Pop was disgusted with his missed shots against Denver and again was mad this game when Mason kept missing wide open players and being careless. Perhaps the Spurs are ready to pull the trigger on something like Mason and Finley for Raja Bell and CJ Watson . . . . . .
    the Hedo injury seems far more questionable IMHO. orbital bone isn't such a injury occurring to a basketball player that often and even if his bone was indeed hurt, it didn't affect him playing the game either. As the rumors diffuses around the league about Bosh leaving Toronto, it's reasonable speculation that Hedo is also on a move to another team preferably the teams he may help a lot, like the Spurs.

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    Wrong... if George Hill gets the playing time, he will be almost exactly like Devin Harris. Too bad Dallas let go of something so good... whatever...

    On a side note, i'm actually for the Spurs trading expiring contracts for Amare. We need more low-post presence.
    ...but not one with such a low rebounding average and low BBIQ, to boot. Pass.

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    Incorrect. Just looked it up:



    If he got the cast removed a few weeks ago, perhaps he's about ready to play now?

    Hmmm ... if the Warriors have a standing offer that revolved around RMJ for Bell (Ludden wrote that the Spurs turned down that deal earlier in the season) , the recent events align. Pop first threw Mason under the bus for missing shots -- something I can't remember Pop ever doing in his coaching history. Now this rumor pops up the next game? Add in Pop being a huge Raja Bell fan and we might be cooking.







    Or I could be reading too much into it. We'll see
    Guess it wasnt season ending, Id honestly be all for this deal...Bell has declined some but he's still solid. Mason seems to be fluctuate between hot and cold too much for us to consistantly rely on him.

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    Raja Bell would be disappointing, but it would be a Spurs-like move..

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    Bell would be a decent addition .... as long as Pop doesn't start him. Hill needs to remain in the starting lineup. Bell eating minutes Bogans, Mason and Finley would otherwise get would likely be an upgrade.

    But you put Bell in the starting lineup and Pop would soon be surprised how far Bell's defense has fallen. In the 2008 playoffs, Ginobili destroyed Bell ... even though Ginobili was playing on one leg. At this point in his career, Bell's mobility is a big question mark. But like I said, he's not afraid to rough up players like Kobe, so he might have the guile to make up for his decline in athleticism and quickness.

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    Is Bell even eligible to be traded at this point? I mean, didn't he just arrive in GS a couple of months ago?

    BTW, if the Spurs could add some sweetner and somehow pry Anthony Randolph off their hands...well....

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    raja bell hasnt hasn't had season ending surgery right now he is rumored to be traded to the celtics though
    Yeah, looks like Ainge may want him. That could be another reason why the Spurs would have to make the move now.

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    Bell would be a decent addition .... as long as Pop doesn't start him. Hill needs to remain in the starting lineup. Bell eating minutes Bogans, Mason and Finley would otherwise get would likely be an upgrade.
    That's too many players of the same ilk, at the same position. Wouldn't it be more likely they part with either Mason or Finley?

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    That's too many players of the same ilk, at the same position. Wouldn't it be more likely they part with either Mason or Finley?
    Yeah, I'm saying Mason is traded (maybe along with Finley) and Bell's role would be to play the minutes that are currently spread between Mason, Finley and Bogans.

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    Yeah, I'm saying Mason is traded (maybe along with Finley) and Bell's role would be to play the minutes that are currently spread between Mason, Finley and Bogans.


    That would make more sense.

    However that would mean Pop would be forced to break up with Finley? And right before Valentines Day too? If only, in my lifetime.

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    I was just checking to see if the rumor might have come from Amick, but I couldn't find anything. Where exactly, or more appropriately, whom exactly was reporting this rumor?

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    I was just checking to see if the rumor might have come from Amick, but I couldn't find anything. Where exactly, or more appropriately, whom exactly was reporting this rumor?
    The kings broadcasters right before tip off. They said Spurs are close to completing a deal that would bring in a forward and a back up point guard. And then said it might effect their rotation tonight.

    Can't remember their names.

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    This trade rumor plus Beno suddenly not playing had me scared. Thankfully, he was actually injured (bruised heel and plantar fasciitis) and not being sat out due to an impending trade. Trading for Beno and his ~$22 million over three years remaining on his contract would have ended in disaster.

    I haven't heard anything to go along with this rumor ... but it's definitely one that shouldn't be ignored. Why would a Kings announcer randomly say something so specific about the opposing team? Either he made a mistake or there is fire beneath the smoke.

    If I had to guess the player involved, I'd guess RMJ. Pop was disgusted with his missed shots against Denver and again was mad this game when Mason kept missing wide open players and being careless. Perhaps the Spurs are ready to pull the trigger on something like Mason and Finley for Raja Bell and CJ Watson . . . . . .
    Maybe CJ Watson and Turiaf?

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