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    If this has been posted yet, I haven't seen it...

    http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...s=iref:nbahpt1

    Why San Antonio would be looking at Tyrus Thomas. Utah has bludgeoned the Spurs in the paint this season, averaging an incredible 51 points in the paint per game and shooting 49.8 percent overall from the floor. The Spurs would also love to add Thomas's defensive length to their aging, non-athletic roster, though it's not a certainty that San Antonio would go that route again after middling results from bringing in Drew Gooden last winter.

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    So you are saying that if the Spurs wanted to trade him that is no problem and it could be done this season.


    I would have thought that it is near impossible to trade him because no one would want him even if the contract is short. 14 million is a lot for a player that doesn't produce much.
    Teams would trade for him for his expiring contract next year, more so than his ability.

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    Teams would trade for him for his expiring contract next year, more so than his ability.
    What has this post got to do with anything. You don't think I know next season would be easier.

    I am talking about this season. Bruno seems to think it can be done easily this season. I don't.

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    I can't see the Spurs taking on a long contract to get rid of RJ's.

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    If this has been posted yet, I haven't seen it...

    http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...s=iref:nbahpt1

    Why San Antonio would be looking at Tyrus Thomas. Utah has bludgeoned the Spurs in the paint this season, averaging an incredible 51 points in the paint per game and shooting 49.8 percent overall from the floor. The Spurs would also love to add Thomas's defensive length to their aging, non-athletic roster, though it's not a certainty that San Antonio would go that route again after middling results from bringing in Drew Gooden last winter.
    lol.... Drew Gooden and Tyrus Thomas' athleticism is not comparable.

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    If this has been posted yet, I haven't seen it...

    http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...s=iref:nbahpt1

    Why San Antonio would be looking at Tyrus Thomas. Utah has bludgeoned the Spurs in the paint this season, averaging an incredible 51 points in the paint per game and shooting 49.8 percent overall from the floor. The Spurs would also love to add Thomas's defensive length to their aging, non-athletic roster, though it's not a certainty that San Antonio would go that route again after middling results from bringing in Drew Gooden last winter.
    Interesting.
    Spurs were also said to be interested in Thomas a couple of years ago.

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    I think you are wrong on all points. But there is no changing your mind or mine at this point.
    Not to mention R.J is horrible in the pick and roll with the ball. Another thing Salmons has over him.

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    lol.... Drew Gooden and Tyrus Thomas' athleticism is not comparable.
    Yeah, I know. Gooden isn't overly athletic and is as as good as he's ever going to be. Thomas is a top 10 (maybe even 5) athlete in the league and could eventually turn himself into a versatile, lock down defender (a better version of Martin).

    I figured, after some deliberation, that this was who the Kings announcer was talking about. The way I see it, it's a low risk/high reward type scenario, assuming all it costs the Spurs is Bonner/Finley or Mason (I'd prefer it be Finley, who'd likely get bought out and re-sign anyway).

    Interesting.
    Spurs were also said to be interested in Thomas a couple of years ago.
    I remember hearing that. It makes sense, since Pop is clearly loathe to play Ratliff (mainly with Blair because of the lack of shooting) and a Blair/Bonner duo will not get it done against anybody defensively.

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    What has this post got to do with anything. You don't think I know next season would be easier.

    I am talking about this season. Bruno seems to think it can be done easily this season. I don't.
    It can be done. Teams that have a long contract and are in rebuilding mode would be willing to trade that long contract for Jefferson's expiring next year. They would be willing to pay his 15 million next year to save more money in the long run. IE Brands deal or even Igoudala's if the deal is right.

    Or even a situation in Golden State where they have Maggete's contract for 4 more years and are a lottery team. They would probably consider a Maggette/Bell deal for Jefferson, since RJ's expires next year.

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    It can be done. Teams that have a long contract and are in rebuilding mode would be willing to trade that long contract for Jefferson's expiring next year. They would be willing to pay his 15 million next year to save more money in the long run. IE Brands deal or even Igoudala's if the deal is right.

    Or even a situation in Golden State where they have Maggete's contract for 4 more years and are a lottery team. They would probably consider a Maggette/Bell deal for Jefferson, since RJ's expires next year.
    So the Spurs are the ones balking then? They don't want to take on a contract that is longer than RJ's?

    Do you think the Spurs are trying to trade him this season, right now?

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    So the Spurs are the ones balking then? They don't want to take on a contract that is longer than RJ's?

    Do you think the Spurs are trying to trade him this season, right now?
    The only long contract I think Spurs would consider for Jefferson's is Igoudala's, maybe Maggette's. That's if Holt approves, which is unlikely.

    Spurs are probably fielding offer's for everyone not named Duncan. That's part of their job.
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    The road to the finals leads through LA. If Hill is the #2 then we do need a backup PG. Since Ian is obviously a playable big we need one. Someone to bang with Bynum. Blair is great but not the answer. Ther Spurs need to roll the dice again or we will be gone again in round one.

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    RJ is known for at least being a "character" guy. I don't think Salmons is.
    Are you serious? Salmons is always humble and often thanks God in post-game interviews showing that he's a deeply religious man. He's a class act, especially with the way he presents himself. I'm not sure what would make you think otherwise? His stoic look? The goatee?

    I've read some good things about him too. Here's an article aptly named, "The Class of John Salmons".

    http://www.nba.com/kings/features/cl...n_salmons.html



    What about when RJ and Kenyon Martin laughed at Alonzo Mourning when he was ailing in practice because of his kidneys?

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    Yea, I wouldn't necessarily label RJ a 'character' guy.... he doesn't cause problems, but he's hardly led a role model lifestyle.

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    Thomas and Salmons or Thomas and Pargo makes sense. All three of those players have been on the Spurs' radar in the past. I doubt either trade makes the Spurs much better this season but I like Thomas as a long-term project. Salmons is a hot or cold player but when he's hot, he can go on tear for a couple of months.

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    thomas and pargo makes sense.
    +1

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    Thomas-Pargo is fine with me..

    I believe Thomas can help us this season, he fills a need and would be the main dimension that we're missing from our defensive frontcourt..we're missing a guy that can guard the mid-range bigs and we're missing a guy to help Duncan block shots..he's also an energy player, which is something we don't have and desperately need..energy is contagious, blocked shots obviously help lead to transition points..

    I think he would be able to give us 20MPG in the playoffs, and he already has playoff experience in a high-pressure series, so that's good..

    If this trade happens, we're really gonna need RJ to show some form of defense and ability to create for himself..

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    I once asked a Spurs scout who he thought was the most underrated player in the NBA. His answer: Caron Butler. He said if Butler was ever in a situation where he played in an unselfish offense, that he could become a superstar. It should be noted that this was two years ago but with Butler rumored to be traded any day now, it has me wondering if the Spurs could be in the mix.

    Butler's game seems to have really fallen off this year and he might not even be as good as RJ ... but perhaps the Spurs see it as a problem with the system and not the player. Personally, I don't think Butler is worth what it'd take to get him (assuming it's expirings + assets).

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    I would like Butler if Jefferson wasn't on the team..Butler is better than him, but acquiring him would pretty much make Jefferson even more useless than he is now..

    I watched Butler's game vs. Orlando a few days ago, it was unbelievable..29 points in the 2nd half and made the GW J with 0.5 seconds left..he's stepped it up hard after his poor start..his D has been average though, which wasn't the case a few years ago..

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    How about nobody for nobody lol, thats what it looks like and this thread is a bunch of what some want and what ifs thought of in fans minds! I am dying to see something realy, but nothing positive yet on the trade scene being said

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    I once asked a Spurs scout who he thought was the most underrated player in the NBA. His answer: Caron Butler. He said if Butler was ever in a situation where he played in an unselfish offense, that he could become a superstar. It should be noted that this was two years ago but with Butler rumored to be traded any day now, it has me wondering if the Spurs could be in the mix.

    Butler's game seems to have really fallen off this year and he might not even be as good as RJ ... but perhaps the Spurs see it as a problem with the system and not the player. Personally, I don't think Butler is worth what it'd take to get him (assuming it's expirings + assets).

    I added Butler to my NBA2k10 spurs team.

    Damn he was good.

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    How about nobody for nobody lol, thats what it looks like and this thread is a bunch of what some want and what ifs thought of in fans minds!
    I'm pretty sure I read someone admit that already. Don't get your hopes up when you click this thread...

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    I'm pretty sure I read someone admit that already. Don't get your hopes up when you click this thread...
    No but at the beginning during the Kings name they got some peoples hopes up alot by even saying that last week I heard it too and said yes they are close and came in here to respond to the thread. It seems close meant next year man

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    No but at the beginning during the Kings name they got some peoples hopes up alot by even saying that last week I heard it too and said yes they are close and came in here to respond to the thread. It seems close meant next year man
    You have my vote for poster of the year.

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    I once asked a Spurs scout who he thought was the most underrated player in the NBA. His answer: Caron Butler. He said if Butler was ever in a situation where he played in an unselfish offense, that he could become a superstar. It should be noted that this was two years ago but with Butler rumored to be traded any day now, it has me wondering if the Spurs could be in the mix.

    Butler's game seems to have really fallen off this year and he might not even be as good as RJ ... but perhaps the Spurs see it as a problem with the system and not the player. Personally, I don't think Butler is worth what it'd take to get him (assuming it's expirings + assets).
    You have that type of access? Any word on any trade speculation?

    A year or two ago, I'd have put Butler right up there for most underrated. He was probably the fourth best SF in the league, but he seems to have fallen into the Jefferson class. He's still better than him and could probably turn it around elsewhere, but it's not going to be with the Spurs because, the Spurs don't have what the Wizards are supposedly looking for. They're not just going to give him away for three small expiring contracts and a first round pick likely to be in the low twenties.

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