On ESPN.com trade machine, I tried Bonner+Finley for Battier and I got this:
So the big talk here in Houston this morning is that Daryl Morey is close to working a 3 way deal with the Nicks that sends McGrady away for Butler and Haywood. It was also reported by Wojnarowski earlier this morn.
Sure would look good in a Spurs unifrom (Butler and Haywood not McGrady). Maybe the Spurs can trump the McGrady deal with our expiring contracts and something to build with??? One can dream
Your last two posts were gold. My ribs hurt from laughing.
From David Thorpes ESPN chat:
Wayne (San Antonio, TX)
Richard Jefferson for Corey Maggette and Anthony Randolph?
David Thorpe
(12:39 PM)
I tweeted this summer that if AR played in San Antonio, he'd end up being a Hall of Famer.
Oh god please let that happen.
That would be too good to happen...
Bull ! What are we? the Lakers?!
That funny huh?
Like I said earlier, I'd take Randolph over Ty Thomas even knowing Randolph likely misses the rest of the season.
Randolph >>>>>>>>>> Thomas
Randolph hitting his ultimate potential would be a borderline Duncan replacement. There aren't five players with more potential in the NBA. That said, he has a long, long way to figure out how to use it all.
If IF this were to happen it would be a huge blow to the FO's ego so let's see if they could get past that first. Second it would make us better this year but UNBEAVABLE next year!
I would love to have both TT and AR, although I don't know how that would work out considering they're a lot alike. Guess you could have AR at SF and TT at PF, imagine the shot blocking between them and Duncan.
Randolph would eliminate the threat of Dirk/Odom type players. Also as timvp said he has the potential to be a top 5/10 player in the league at some point. The FO would be wise to snap him up if he's available.
I have a lot less confidence in Pop now that he'd be able to get a player like Randolph to reach his potential. Randolph is definitely one of those players with a fragile head that needs to be coddled a bit.
I sat behind the bench for the Spurs-Warriors game in Oakland, and the whole time, AR looked like he was going to cry on the bench from being in Nelson's doghouse.
No trade is necessary!!!!
This season can still be salvaged. Everyone says the samething about this team: They are uninterested and look deflated. Let's look at obvious reasons for their slump throught the season.
1. Parker's plantar fasciitis is indeed a p roblem that will not go away for the rest of this season. Timmy did not look at all like himself when was battling this injury. Parker does no look as explosive as he has in the past.
2. Ginobili seems like he might just be thinking too much about what's going on with him and the Spurs FO. Lately he looks inspired however, I do think with his partuicular skill set, father time is starting to set in. He looks half a step slower. Everyone says his FG% is extremely poor, however his shooting has always been off and on. this season he just looks like he is hestiant when driving to the basket.
3. Rebouding has killed this team. As evident in the LA game, we just dont have that much size. We have Ratliff but he is a s of his former self. Timmy and Blair really are the only big time rebounders we have.
4. Defensive lapses and 2nd Half lapses constanly kill this team. Bogans is no where near Bruce Bowen's capability. I would even venture to say that Finley and Bogans are a wash on defense. Even Hill who looks to be pretty defensive gets caught in lapses of not playing the pick and roll correctly. Mason is absolutely atrocious on D while RJ is about average. I wish POP would some how find some time for Ian to guard soemone like Gasol and see how he performs. the 3rd quarter lapses are reminiscent of SPURS teams from the past. Ususally when the Spurs got big leads they were able to sustain them. However now it seems like they can't hang on to a lead to save thier life.
apart of me feels that POP is unsure of what he has in this team. There is potential to be alot better but it all starts on the defensive side. Usually a big time win can jumpstart a run for this team. they play Denver next and everything points to a loss, however I look for the team to play with grit and determination and at least get to 6 wins for this road trip. If its one thing I know, its that a team can get hot at anytime. The Spurs know what it takes to get thorugh the payoffs. With the West being so compe ive this year, Ireally wouldn't doubt an 8 seed giving the top seed some problems. The Spurs are capable of beating every team in the top 8 in the West, its just a matter of getting thier confidence high and getting on a roll. At this point we are 29-21. Things could be worse, alot worse. (see year before Duncan got here). Everyone likes to jump ship as the team has been uninspiring, but for TRUE SPURS fans, we are too familiar with the team pedigree and the motvation Timmy has as a captian. POP may makes some headscratching decisoins but for anyone who gets frustrated by his calls, I ask you, how many les have you lead an NBA franchise to? The man has a plan and so do the Spurs. Giving up is easy but lets see what this team has got left. they'll either flame out or muster enough determination to turn this season around. I'll go with the latter. GO SPURS GO!
Pop would turn Anthony Randolph around the same way he did with Nelson's other doghoused project big with incredible potential.
Samaki 2010
If the Warriors were unwilling to do this deal, I wonder if they'd be more tempted if the Spurs offered to take both Maggette's and Biedrins' contracts for RJ + expirings. I know that's A LOT of long-term money, but at least it's long term money for guys who can play.
I've never heard that the Warriors wanted to move Biedrins.
I haven't heard that specifically that they want to trade him, but the owner is in some financial trouble and is considering selling the team. A team with considerably less committed payroll (even minus Randolph) might be more appealing. Also, Biedrins' tenure in GS isn't going too smoothly at the moment:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/land...47&feedID=2799
Would be nice to have AR, but if it's being reported, then it aint gonna happen. That's the way things work around here.
It is not being reported. Just some fan brought it up in Thorpes chat.
Richard Jefferson for Corey Maggette and Anthony Randolph is a dream trade right now lol. I'd even be willing to give up more than RJ. Being the same age, I think Maggette is playing a good bit better at this point in his career than McGrady.
Tim Duncan
Anthony Randolph
Corey Maggette
Manu Ginobili
Tony Parker
Have George Hill and DeJuan Blair being the first two off the bench and you've got something special there.
Who's to say you couldn't have both?
Just for entertainment's sake, what if the Spurs could pawn off RJ and Splitter for Maggette and Randolph (throw parts in from either side if you wish) and still had the expirings and a first-rounder, if needed, to acquire Thomas and Salmons?
I'm just spitballin', but Splitter to GS could give them a cheaper replacement for Biedrins, whom they could include in a separate deal to upgrade their roster, and they'd rid themselves of Maggette's contract; RJ's at least a name and someone that the fan base wouldn't be up in arms about acquiring. (he'd look much better in that offense)
The Spurs get one of the most improved players in the league this year and a guy who's suited to be a nice 6th Man moving forward; he's an upgrade to RJ this year (going out on a limb there, Blackjack) and I wouldn't vomit as profusely with him at the 4. But the key to this would be the acquisition of Randolph, someone who could be a franchise-level player down the road, and someone the Spurs wouldn't likely have the opportunity of acquiring under normal cir stances; losing Splitter would be a small price to pay, imo, if it's to acquire someone of Randloph's ilk.
If the Spurs still had the assets for the Thomas-Salmons deal, it'd be virtually the same rationale on the basketball court for this year and for the evaluation purposes of next year. You'd have Hill, Blair, Randolph, Thomas (should they see him worthy) and Hairston as your developing youth and good assets to mix and match, which would negate the loss of a first-round pick (should it be required in this trade).
It's not real well-thought, just kinda typing stream of conscience, but it's seemingly feasible and, at the very least, shoot-the- worthy...
We don't need to stinking trade. No trade will make a difference this year anyway because Pop will not give up on small ball.
All is not lost, Manu will not be back along with Bonner, Finley, RMJ etc. for a total of 23 mil flexibility. RJ will have an expiring contract at 15 mil that several teams will salivate for, next year.
the nucleus of Duncan, Parker, Hill, Blair, Hairston, (maybe Splitter) plus as much as 30 plus million for free agents makes the future look much brighter than most observe.
Getting another go to big could lesson the wear and tear on TD and allow him to play at another 4-5 years. Afterall his game is not high maintenance. No high flying dunks. No jump shot that will go south because of a lost verticle. He just needs less minutes to rest the knees, back, and feet.
Yes that funny. And at your expense, too. Something about your inability to just let it go just makes it that much funnier.
I was actually just joking with timvp. I didn't really want to "e-fight". But hey if that made you happy then good for you little guy... good for you.
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