Official Trade Deadline Speculation Thread

[lurker23]

We don't need to stinking trade. No trade will make a difference this year anyway because Pop will not give up on small ball.

All is not lost, Manu will not be back along with Bonner, Finley, RMJ etc. for a total of 23 mil flexibility. RJ will have an expiring contract at 15 mil that several teams will salivate for, next year.

the nucleus of Duncan, Parker, Hill, Blair, Hairston, (maybe Splitter) plus as much as 30 plus million for free agents makes the future look much brighter than most observe.

Getting another go to big could lesson the wear and tear on TD and allow him to play at another 4-5 years. Afterall his game is not high maintenance. No high flying dunks. No jump shot that will go south because of a lost verticle. He just needs less minutes to rest the knees, back, and feet.

Spurs won't have any cap space this upcoming summer. Free agent wise, all they'll have is their MLE and LLE, and part of the MLE will likely go to Splitter. All other spots will have to be filled via trade, draft, minimum contracts, and resigning Spurs who have expiring contracts this year.

I agree the Spurs future isn't all that bleak with some good young core players, but this team isn't going to be built by free agency, at least not this summer.

[MaNu4Tres]

Who's to say you couldn't have both?

Just for entertainment's sake, what if the Spurs could pawn off RJ and Splitter for Maggette and Randolph (throw parts in from either side if you wish) and still had the expirings and a first-rounder, if needed, to acquire Thomas and Salmons?

I'm just spitballin', but Splitter to GS could give them a cheaper replacement for Biedrins, whom they could include in a separate deal to upgrade their roster, and they'd rid themselves of Maggette's contract; RJ's at least a name and someone that the fan base wouldn't be up in arms about acquiring. (he'd look much better in that offense)

The Spurs get one of the most improved players in the league this year and a guy who's suited to be a nice 6th Man moving forward; he's an upgrade to RJ this year (going out on a limb there, Blackjack) and I wouldn't vomit as profusely with him at the 4. But the key to this would be the acquisition of Randolph, someone who could be a franchise-level player down the road, and someone the Spurs wouldn't likely have the opportunity of acquiring under normal cir stances; losing Splitter would be a small price to pay, imo, if it's to acquire someone of Randloph's ilk.

If the Spurs still had the assets for the Thomas-Salmons deal, it'd be virtually the same rationale on the basketball court for this year and for the evaluation purposes of next year. You'd have Hill, Blair, Randolph, Thomas (should they see him worthy) and Hairston as your developing youth and good assets to mix and match, which would negate the loss of a first-round pick (should it be required in this trade).

It's not real well-thought, just kinda typing stream of conscience, but it's seemingly feasible and, at the very least, shoot-the- worthy...

Blackjack...

Beat me to it...

Me and you think alike brother.

[Blackjack]

Blackjack...

Beat me to it...

Me and you think alike brother.

Probably something you shouldn't readily admit to...

I truly feel for you, bro.

[5in10]

Who's to say you couldn't have both?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yks5joo
throw in some first rounds and splitter if needed
BOOM! instant contention and instant rebuild

[Obstructed_View]

I was actually just joking with timvp. I didn't really want to "e-fight". But hey if that made you happy then good for you little guy... good for you.

Actually it just made me laugh my ass off. I don't need your approval for that, but your continually bringing it back to life does make me smile...

[rr2418]

Just throwing this out there. How about trading RMJ, McDyss, Finley for Tracy McGrady? At least in the trade meter it worked. I think Tmac would be a better fit than RJ.

[MaNu4Tres]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yks5joo
throw in some first rounds and splitter if needed
BOOM! instant contention and instant rebuild

That's a bit of a stretch. Somewhat realistic, but a stretch.

I moved around some things and came up with a little bit better proposal IMO. It kind of makes sense if Spurs throw a 1st round pick to the Bulls and throw Splitter to the Warriors.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=ygjnxwu

[I. Hustle]

Actually it just made me laugh my ass off. I don't need your approval for that, but your continually bringing it back to life does make me smile...

Well I still give you my approval. I say go for it. Laugh away. If I can help bring joy and laughter to a special needs person... well it just makes my day. You keep laughing little guy and remember that it doesn't matter if you are a little different.

[Blackjack]

That's a bit of a stretch. Somewhat realistic, but a stretch.

I moved around some things and came up with a little bit better proposal IMO. It kind of makes sense if Spurs throw a 1st round pick to the Bulls and throw Splitter to the Warriors.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=ygjnxwu

Zang...

[5in10]

That's a bit of a stretch. Somewhat realistic, but a stretch.

I moved around some things and came up with a little bit better proposal IMO. It kind of makes sense if Spurs throw a 1st round pick to the Bulls and throw Splitter to the Warriors.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=ygjnxwu

I like it but I wouldn't want throw in splitter unless we got back a center...maybe a future first round instead?

[benefactor]

Here's an article from Woj:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

How about the Spurs get in on the action?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjsk4f2

[venitian navigator]

iguodala + brand for rj, mason, bonner, finley works too...

[benefactor]

How about the Spurs get in on the action?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjsk4f2

Then we can do this and we are set.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yg98trv

[Blackjack]

Giving them Splitter is the kind of incentive that makes a trade like this plausible.

GS is desperately trying to shed salary and if the Spurs could take Maggette's contract off their hands and give them a cheaper replacement that could allow them to shed Biedrins $9M(?) in a separate trade, that makes sense/cents.

Splitter's a solid player and would contribute right away, but he's pretty much reached his ceiling and doesn't bring the long-term potential of a guy like Randolph; there's always a give and take.

[MaNu4Tres]

Giving them Splitter is the kind of incentive that makes a trade like this plausible.

GS is desperately trying to shed salary and if the Spurs could take Maggette's contract off their hands and give them a cheaper replacement that could allow them to shed Biedrins $9M(?) in a separate trade, that makes sense/cents.

Splitter's a solid player and would contribute right away, but he's pretty much reached his ceiling and doesn't bring the long-term potential of a guy like Randolph; there's always a give and take.

Not to mention Bulls would clear up some extra cap space, putting them at roughly 31 million in salary for next year. This would make them a bigger player in free agency this summer.

Also replacing Salmons for Mason/Bell and Thomas for Bonner isn't a significant fall-off in terms of production. That is if they valued getting players in return to help them compete in the playoffs this year.

So in all: Bulls shed Salmons off the books, get expirings in return that could actually contribute for the rest of the year, get to be big players in the best free agent market in the past 10 years, and get a 1st round pick on top of that.

[Blackjack]

SCH-WING!

Excellent...

I'll have the lemon chicken; I'm thinking she'll have the cream of some young guy.

[Sean Cagney]

Richard Jefferson for Corey Maggette and Anthony Randolph is a dream trade right now lol. I'd even be willing to give up more than RJ. Being the same age, I think Maggette is playing a good bit better at this point in his career than McGrady.

Tim Duncan
Anthony Randolph
Corey Maggette
Manu Ginobili
Tony Parker

Have George Hill and DeJuan Blair being the first two off the bench and you've got something special there.

Just to think a summer or so back we were very close to getting Maggette until the Spurs Warriors (Who were loaded around that position) offered him a little more and he goes there to lose Spurs had him pretty much until that.

If we get Maggette that summer we don't get Rich last year and we are a better team with alot less salary . Oh the near misses of the Spurs, that one still stings.

[Sean Cagney]

Just throwing this out there. How about trading RMJ, McDyss, Finley for Tracy McGrady? At least in the trade meter it worked. I think Tmac would be a better fit than RJ.

He would be a better fit than RJ, but RMJ and Dyess too? Who the heck do we have then sides Tim who is tall who plays? Ratliff? Ian? They get no time out there, Blair is a small PF. If we got rid of all three would we really be better just because we got rid of RJ? I doubt it.

[HarlemHeat37]

I would still do the Thomas trade right now..try to get him for expiring contracts, don't throw in Splitter at all, and try to avoid using a 1st round pick, although we might have to..

If he works out with the Spurs, then re-sign him and look to trade RJ's huge expiring contract in the Summer..there will be a lot of suitors for Jefferson next year, we can get some nice talent in return..it doesn't have to be a Maggette-Randolph combination, although that would be nice..there will be plenty of teams looking to move overpaid players with the impending cap situation..

[Blackjack]

How about the Spurs get in on the action?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yjsk4f2

Then we can do this and we are set.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=yg98trv

Not bad, benefactor.

Sham called Wright to Memphis months ago and by all accounts, all the Griz have to do is say yes (which won't happen 'til the deadline, most likely).

I don't think it'd do much for this year but it's two nice pieces to evaluate, and it's a pretty feasible deal you've put together; decent move if it's all there really is to be had.

[Blackjack]

Yeah, you don't send Splitter to CHI for Thomas.

But I'd have no problem sending him to GS with RJ for Maggette and Randolph, and giving up the first-rounder and expirings to CHI for the Thomas-Salmons package. (All the rationale's on the previous page..)

[mountainballer]

Magic men: Two league sources said the Magic is one of many teams the Bulls have talked to in their attempts to pare payroll before the Feb. 18 trade deadline. Guard Anthony Johnson has an expiring contract and the Bulls are making John Salmons and Tyrus Thomas available to any takers.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...0,894040.story

not really news, but the first time I saw the Magic mentioned explicitly in "our" trade.
however, the Spurs could make the better offer when it comes to expirings and also the better offer when the 2010 1st rounder comes into discussion.
but as mentioned, the Bulls talk to many teams and I'm sure that includes the Spurs. it's also more and more obvious, that the Bulls have put a TT plus Salmons package on the market.

[Blackjack]

Who's to say you couldn't have both?

Just for entertainment's sake, what if the Spurs could pawn off RJ and Splitter for Maggette and Randolph (throw parts in from either side if you wish) and still had the expirings and a first-rounder, if needed, to acquire Thomas and Salmons?

I'm just spitballin', but Splitter to GS could give them a cheaper replacement for Biedrins, whom they could include in a separate deal to upgrade their roster, and they'd rid themselves of Maggette's contract; RJ's at least a name and someone that the fan base wouldn't be up in arms about acquiring. (he'd look much better in that offense)

The Spurs get one of the most improved players in the league this year and a guy who's suited to be a nice 6th Man moving forward; he's an upgrade to RJ this year (going out on a limb there, Blackjack) and I wouldn't vomit as profusely with him at the 4. But the key to this would be the acquisition of Randolph, someone who could be a franchise-level player down the road, and someone the Spurs wouldn't likely have the opportunity of acquiring under normal cir stances; losing Splitter would be a small price to pay, imo, if it's to acquire someone of Randloph's ilk.

If the Spurs still had the assets for the Thomas-Salmons deal, it'd be virtually the same rationale on the basketball court for this year and for the evaluation purposes of next year. You'd have Hill, Blair, Randolph, Thomas (should they see him worthy) and Hairston as your developing youth and good assets to mix and match, which would negate the loss of a first-round pick (should it be required in this trade).

It's not real well-thought, just kinda typing stream of conscience, but it's seemingly feasible and, at the very least, shoot-the- worthy...

That's a bit of a stretch. Somewhat realistic, but a stretch.

I moved around some things and came up with a little bit better proposal IMO. It kind of makes sense if Spurs throw a 1st round pick to the Bulls and throw Splitter to the Warriors.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=ygjnxwu

What do you think, mountainballer?

[Thompson]

I'm pretty sure we can't trade our 2010 first rounder because we already traded away our 2009 first rounder; you can't trade consecutive 1st round picks.

[objective]

I'm pretty sure we can't trade our 2010 first rounder because we already traded away our 2009 first rounder; you can't trade consecutive 1st round picks.

he's right folks.

btw, the last bit of news on Warriors boards about Randolph that I read is Nelson ripped him on the radio for being injured and instead of being behind the bench in a sportcoat was spending games out at clubs. Now the Warriors have a fine schedule in place for hurt players not being at games when they're not under doctor's orders to stay away.

I'm sure Pop would looooooove that.