Reply With Quote
Manu and Finley for Telfair, Camby and Thornton.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns
It's a confirmation of previous rumors.
Telfair's salary of $2.7M in 2010-2011 seems like a reasonable price to pay to get Thornton or Camby. Even if he is damn old, I like more Camby because he could help more Spurs this year.
Manu and Finley for Telfair, Camby and Thornton.
I'd rather do Telfair, Thornton and Camby for Bonner, Finley, Mason, Mahinmi and Hairston.
Either that or I will push for Richard Jefferson to be traded to them, if they are willing to bite. The Clippers are not expecting any decent free agent to come to them next year without overpricing himself and they are in need of a good SF.
I think they are in the look out for Iguodala at a maximum and RJ/Josh Howard should be part of their mix of wanted SFs.
Other contenders for Camby must include the Blazers, Rockets and Thunder. The Blazers will only offer Outlaw as the Clips' SF, but he is injured all year and not a consistent piece that they would like. Rockets will try dangling McGrady's expiring but they have nothing more and the Clips know that TMac won't play for them next year. Thunder can only offer Harpring + Etan Thomas; both of whom don't fill the Clips' need.
The Sixers want to move Dalembert as well if they will to sell Iguodala and that is not to the liking of the Clips.
All that means that some amount of persuasion and last minute phone burn can possibly land Camby from Clips for RJ, if the Spurs have indeed given up on him.
The reason why they want to dump Telfair is to have as much cap space as possible for this summer. Trading for RJ will do the opposite, it doesn't make a lot of sense for them.
I highly doubt these teams are ready to offer a lot for Camby. They are pretender with a young core. Going after a 36 years old Camby doesn't make a lot of sense for them.
Yea, you're right. But would the Clippers accept all those not so good players?
They are also playoff contenders lacking big men. Blazers with both centers injured, Rockets with Chuck Hayes, and Thunder lacking an experienced big. All of whom would like Camby and his half season rental for this season's stretch run alone.
Except I agree they don't want to offer the Clips much.
The Clips will ideally want to both cut salaries and add a decent SF to their core. Hence their wanting to give away Telfair and Thornton, both of whom they have lost interest in after a series of poor and lackadaisical displays in the past seasons.
As Dunleavy Sr himself said some time back, they are not keen on being in a situation where someone will do a Brand on them. They will make a trade to get what piece they want right now and not wait till the offseason to do the needful. Question is, if RJ can be that piece.
Last edited by Spursfanfromafar; 02-15-2010 at 08:28 AM.
It's all about the contracts in this trade like the Dallas/Wizards trade. If it isn't enough, Spurs could also add a draft pick.
Manu also isn't that interesting for Clippers. They are going nowhere this year and Manu will likely leave them this summer as a free agent.
+1
Im more than down with this trade
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've felt like Camby has a decent number of miles on him and even though he's a consistent defense/rebounding piece, he's not too smart.
Also, I'd like to keep Mason if possible and just trade the others if the numbers still worked. I like Bonner's work ethic, but right now it's not worth keeping him when we can basically exchange 20 points of offense for 10 and a bit of defensive grit.
I feel the Spurs as a team will be better no matter what after the deadline, they will have a belief that THIS is the final line-up and if they are gonna win anything in the playoffs they can only rely on each other and no magic bullet.
Camby has some flaws and he is overrated but the question is: who would rather play in the frontcourt with Tim, Dice and Blair: Camby or Bonner?
For me, the answer is quite easy.
Mason must be included to match salaries.
Now if Spurs do a trade like that, they will lose a lot of shooting. A logical move after this trade would be to sign a shooter for the end of the bench.
What shooters are there? The only FA shooter off the top of my head is Wally Szczerbiak.
Some vets will be bought out or waived after the trade deadline. If Finley is traded to Clippers, I can see them buying him out and Finley re-signing with Spurs after the mandatory 30 days.
Among current FAs, you have some players like Von Wafer or McCants who have been injured sooner this year and are maybe now healthy. In the D-League, Morris Almond or Coby Karl could fill the bill.
That would be funny as . Howard would want sweet revenge against Cuban that's for sure. Bet he's toking it up right now.
Now that is a trade suggestion
From that same article...
Interesting that a team would look to someone like McDyess, who has a year and a half left on his contract (plus some money owed in year 3), and still consider it.The Nuggets have actively searched for a big man in recent weeks, working to pry younger (DeAndre Jordan(notes)) and older ones (Antonio McDyess(notes)
I wonder what the Nuggets offered...JR Smith?
Thornton might be the dumbest player in the league. His basketball IQ doesn't exist.
That said, the Spurs love players who do well against them and Thornton has destroyed the Spurs multiple times. It seems like Thornton has scored about half his career points against Bonner in iso situations.
Personally, if the Clippers demand Thornton or Telfair added to a deal that would bring Camby, I'd pick Telfair. He pretty much sucks but the Spurs actually have a need for a ballhandler and there's a chance he doesn't pick up his player option next season.
They wouldn't and no thank you. Earl Smith is a perfect fit on the Thuggets.From that same article...
Interesting that a team would look to someone like McDyess, who has a year and a half left on his contract (plus some money owed in year 3), and still consider it.
I wonder what the Nuggets offered...JR Smith?
There are a few other trade rumors popping up on ESPN
Yahoo! Sports - 02/15 - 6:27 AM EST (AP Photo)
The Clippers are making young forward Al Thornton available, sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Los Angeles is trying to package Thornton with guard Sebastian Telfair or center Marcus Camby.
A number of teams have inquired about DeAndre Jordan, but the Clippers don't appear willing to deal him.
can we do something like
give:
mason, finley, bonner and ian
get:
camby and thornton
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...=129633&spln=1
sorry if i posted in the wrong thread...
??? discuss
Camby is a good rebounder and blocks shots but as a DPOY I think he's overrated. Never thought his team defense was great so I'm curious how he would fit. He rebounds well and is tall so I suppose that's the obvious benefit.
Telfair plays like a , at least against the Spurs when he seems to constantly give cheap shots to Manu, at least in my opinion.
If you think the season can be saved then Camby is an improvement. I don't think the season can be saved, so I'd rather pursue other options or stand pat.
I would say more like finley, bonner, Ian. Mason needs to stay and if it's a money issue then I would say no.
ESPNs Chad Ford has a list of teams that are Buyers and Sellers...Spurs not listed in either category and the names are nothing new.
Ford lists both Bulls (Hinrich, Salmons, Thomas) and Kings (Nocioni, Martin, Kenny Thomas' expiring) as sellers, which I think are the best suitors for a deal involving the Spurs.
While I'm not optimistic about a trade at this point, I have to believe the odds of Chad Ford having any insight into the workings of our front office approach 0.
There are currently 6 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 6 guests)
Posting Permissions
